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Freedom 55
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Freedom 55
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I think babble needs a dedicated forum for us white guys. A place where we can safely talk amongst ourselves without ever being asked to listen to what people who aren't white guys are trying to tell us. A place where we'll never be expected to pause and take some time to rethink things when we're called on our shit ('cause calling us on our shit wouldn't be allowed in the white men's forum). A place where we're entitled to our sense of entitlement. A place for all of us guys who are just so damn cocksure about how right we are about everything.

People who don't identify as white guys would of course be allowed to lurk. Maybe they could even be allowed to post, as long as they always keep in mind that they're in the White Male Forum, and that our privilege is not to be undermined.

Thoughts? I'm just spitballing here.


Boom Boom
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Nah. Not all white males can stand other white males.


Fidel
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Well that was fun. Okay I vote for allowing everyone else under the sun to join in after post#3. Make it real!


Slumberjack
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Yeah, we seriously need a like button installed for moments like this.  Babble is such a pioneer you know.  What we're seeing being advanced here is something that's never been attempted anywhere else.


Maysie
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Ha ha Freedom55. While I'm sure you meant well, irony is a bit too much to ask at this stage.

So I'll do some unwelcomed spamming.

Privilege is Driving a Smooth Road and not even knowing it

A Guide to Racism 101 for Clueless White People, Written by a Slightly Less Clueless White Person

Racial Microagressions Chart

Unpacking White Male Privilege

But if you insist on irony, Privilege Denying Dude should make you happy.


6079_Smith_W
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Freedom 55 wrote:

 

I think babble needs a dedicated forum for us white guys.

 

Sure, why not.

It is what is expected, and what comes naturally, after all. And one may as well get hanged for a sheep as for a goat.

I'll be sure to drop in later. I have a busy day promoting the neoliberal agenda, using up the earth's resources before jesus gets back, ridiculing and exploiting all those weaker than me and grinding them under my jackboots, and leaving the toilet seat up.

 

 


MegB
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So let me get this straight ... you'll trade the entire board for one forum?  Sold, by golly!


Merowe
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editted to remove the whole thing.


writer
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"Reverse sexism"? Perhaps this is the moment when you realize this board was not designed for you.


6079_Smith_W
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Rebecca West wrote:

So let me get this straight ... you'll trade the entire board for one forum?  Sold, by golly!

Know what... if you throw in control of advertising revenue so we can keep ourselves in beer and smokes, we might have a deal.

 


Catchfire
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rabble reactions is the white male forum


MegB
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Merowe wrote:

I think its a great idea. I'm serious. I've thought about proposing it myself. While I'm deeply grateful to all the non-white-males on this board who give of their time and energy to descend to our level - however briefly - to remind us of our multiple failings, arrogance, and profound ignorance, there are times when even white males need a safe space to relax and unwind, without having to constantly look over their shoulder for fear of being bushwhacked by identity politics enthusiasts. We're not permitted to engage in the feminist forum when reverse sexism has a party so its fair that we have a space where we can blow off our steam without transgressing the women's dedicated zone.

There is so much wrong with this post, I'm at a loss as to where to start.

I guess I'll start with, "you have missed the point of this thread". Oh, and WTF?

Moving on, there is already a white male forum - it's call Planet Earth.  No, I'm not talking about a new touchy-feeling men's online discussion forum, I'm talking about the entire fucking planet.  There are plenty of places where you can carry on about the burden you carry as the most privileged people on earth.  Babble isn't it.

If you're looking for a safe place where you can wallow in your privilege, without "reverse sexism" and "identity politics" spoiling your fun, you have almost the entire Internet at your disposal.

 


writer
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All kidding aside, this board has a policy. For those who don't like the policy, don't want to follow the policy, or think the policy is full of shit, there is a big huge internet out there. Go play.

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 What is rabble.ca?

rabble.ca is a public, independent, progressive news and information source. In defining itself as "progressive," rabble.ca embraces a pro-human rights, pro-feminist, anti-racist, queer-positive, anti-imperialist and pro-labour stance, and as such encourages discussions which develop and expand progressive thought.

babble: discussion board

As part of rabble.ca, babble was created to ensure that readers and participants could explore a wide range of issues of interest and concern in interactive and dynamic ways.

babble is NOT intended as a place where the basic and fundamental values of human rights, feminism, anti-racism and labour rights are to be debated or refought. Anyone who joins babble who indicates intentions to challenge these rights and principles may be seen as disruptive to the nature of the forum.

babble terms and conditions

... You understand that racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, classist (e.g. poor-bashing) and other oppressive language that degrades marginalized communities is not acceptable. This policy applies to both public and private messages.

Edited to add: I was working on this response as RW posted her own.


Freedom 55
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Maysie wrote:

While I'm sure you meant well, irony is a bit too much to ask at this stage.

 

Well, if you're sure I meant well, that goes triple for me. As a progressive white dude, I'm always sure of my good intentions.

 

 

Maysie wrote:

But if you insist on irony, Privilege Denying Dude should make you happy.

 

As a white dude, am I not obligated to insist (on irony... on anything and everything) at all times? Are you suggesting that it's possible for me to back down? That my behaviour is a choice?

Also; I think PDD would be the perfect guest mod for the white male forum.

 

ETA: /irony


KenS
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could not go well


quizzical
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Merowe wrote:
I think its a great idea. I'm serious. I've thought about proposing it myself. While I'm deeply grateful to all the non-white-males on this board who give of their time and energy to descend to our level - however briefly - to remind us of our multiple failings, arrogance, and profound ignorance, there are times when even white males need a safe space to relax and unwind, without having to constantly look over their shoulder for fear of being bushwhacked by identity politics enthusiasts. We're not permitted to engage in the feminist forum when reverse sexism has a party so its fair that we have a space where we can blow off our steam without transgressing the women's dedicated zone.

reverse sexism. is it like reverse racism when the oppressed fights backs against their oppressors and the oppressors call 'em racist?

looking over your shoulder at those behind you are you? don't want to share the up front position with anyone and are fearful when they try.

decend to your level is sarcastic  i see.

gotta thank you anyway for being a gr8 personification of "arrogance, multiple failings and profound ignorance".


Merowe
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writer wrote:

All kidding aside, this board has a policy. For those who don't like the policy, don't want to follow the policy, or think the policy is full of shit, there is a big huge internet out there. Go play.

Quote:
 What is rabble.ca?

rabble.ca is a public, independent, progressive news and information source. In defining itself as "progressive," rabble.ca embraces a pro-human rights, pro-feminist, anti-racist, queer-positive, anti-imperialist and pro-labour stance, and as such encourages discussions which develop and expand progressive thought.

babble: discussion board

As part of rabble.ca, babble was created to ensure that readers and participants could explore a wide range of issues of interest and concern in interactive and dynamic ways.

babble is NOT intended as a place where the basic and fundamental values of human rights, feminism, anti-racism and labour rights are to be debated or refought. Anyone who joins babble who indicates intentions to challenge these rights and principles may be seen as disruptive to the nature of the forum.

babble terms and conditions

... You understand that racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, classist (e.g. poor-bashing) and other oppressive language that degrades marginalized communities is not acceptable. This policy applies to both public and private messages.

Edited to add: I was working on this response as RW posted her own.

fuck, seriously? LECTURE MUCH?

 


Boom Boom
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This should have ended with the OP.


quizzical
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ya gotta wonder what the point was in the 1st place. was a alleged ironic thread bout this needed?  

etd to add is swearing and yelling at writer allowed?


bagkitty
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Groucho Marx wrote:

I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE ME AS A MEMBER

Um, Freedom 55, can you make that just an eensy bit more specific and call it the Straight White Male Forum. I don't want to run the risk of wandering in by mistake and messing up the hockey chat, I know how oppressive that is to "some people".

Thanks for your time and attention in addressing this little oversight.

Obsequiously yours, bagkitty.

 


6079_Smith_W
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Good point, bagkitty, though it ignores the fact there are enough closet cases working for the dark side.

And I should say all this bouncing between satire and serious commentary is enough to make anyone's head spin.

 


Sean in Ottawa
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I just read this thread again.

My trouble with this irony is that too many people take crap like this seriously for the irony to work. Judging form some of the posts there have been a few backfires already.

Now I'm going to go home and have a shower.

 


6079_Smith_W
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@ Sean

True. I had a post all ready to go last night, all full of gravitas. but I thought better, and erased it. 

Sometimes there is no proper response to something other than to turn it back on itself.

 


writer
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Merowe wrote:

fuck, seriously? LECTURE MUCH?

Wow! All caps! Those make me respect your opinion so much more.

Humour and how it can be used to express various layers of privilege. How those who "don't get it" are portrayed as "too serious". Now there's a topic.


MegB
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6079_Smith_W wrote:

Rebecca West wrote:

So let me get this straight ... you'll trade the entire board for one forum?  Sold, by golly!

Know what... if you throw in control of advertising revenue so we can keep ourselves in beer and smokes, we might have a deal.

Good to know you have your priorities straight.  And it's 'beers', not 'beer'.  Were you raised by wolves?


6079_Smith_W
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Well, if I didn't leave you with that impression I should probably toss my little red pencil in the garbage.

Though seeing as this thread isn't turning out to be that light and funny (I know I didn't think so when I first read it), I am a little bit curious as to what inspired it. Was it flouncing, hockey, or both?

 


MegB
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6079_Smith_W wrote:

Well, if I didn't leave you with that impression I should probably toss my little red pencil in the garbage.

Though seeing as this thread isn't turning out to be that light and funny (I know I didn't think so when I first read it), I am a little bit curious as to what inspired it. Was it flouncing, hockey, or both?

I did like the bit about the smokes though.  So unacceptable in this day and age, but it's nice to see that Bob and Doug Mackenzie still rule.

I dunno.  Flouncing is a hot point that may well have spawned this thread.  Hockey? Nah.  It's much easier to believe that writer and I sucked the humour out of the thread, though I believe it was Merowe who threw the gauntlet.

Such is babble.


6079_Smith_W
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Sucked the humour out of this thread? 

Nah, I think that was all a fair reaction considering that the knives were out from the opening post. I was just curious about what inspired this fun little diversion.

And sorry to misrepresent myself. I don't smoke, nor am I really a beer connaisseur. I just figured it went along with the stereotype.


Catchfire
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Freedom 55 wrote:
Well, if you're sure I meant well, that goes triple for me. As a progressive white dude, I'm always sure of my good intentions.

Ha!

And:

bagkitty wrote:
I don't want to run the risk of wandering in by mistake and messing up the hockey chat, I know how oppressive that is to "some people".

Ha!


MegB
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6079_Smith_W wrote:

Sucked the humour out of this thread? 

Nah, I think that was all a fair reaction considering that the knives were out from the opening post. I was just curious about what inspired this fun little diversion.

And sorry to misrepresent myself. I don't smoke, nor am I really a beer connaisseur. I just figured it went along with the stereotype.

It's iconic, and I'm pretty sure, that with a few exceptions, the posts in this thread are entirely facetious. I do hope, however, that you don't mind that I refer to you a a drug lord, or someone who runs a meth lab.


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