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BC NDP - Who should be the new leader?
December 6, 2010 - 8:26pm
Now that Carole James has resigned - let's bury that hatchet and leave all the recriminations to the thread about the "leadership crisis". I'd like to start a new thread here that is exclusively forward-looking. Let's discuss prospective candidates for the leadership, what directiuon the party should move in etc... No more about the events that led up to this situation. I think we should all answer the question:
...so now what?
Murray Dobbin, except half the NDP caucus is afraid to call themselves socialist
There'd be a caucus revolt.
My sense is that Adrian Dix has got it in the bag. None of the 13 "coup plotters" will run. Dix will be an effective leader, but a likeable one? That remains to be seen. Gordon Campbell wasn't likeable, so that may hardly matter. Dix also has some baggage from the 90s. Anyways, the BC NDP has a lot of talent. Their (post-crisis) future is bright.
What about John Horgan - he sounds good too.
Seems "well put together"
http://www.johnhorgan.ca/
How about someone who sympathizes with the dissidents who isn't currently an elected member?
Do you have someone in mind??
BTW: I think that now that james is gone - what difference does it make if the next leader "sympathizes" with the dissidents? The the only thing that united them was their wish to get rid of carole James - they got what they wanted - there is now no such a thing as a dissident or a loyralist - everyone is just a BC New Democrat!
Here is more on Adrian Dix
http://www.adriandix.ca/biography.php
I have a feeling that there will be a lot of interest in this race since the winner has a better than even chance of being the next Premier of BC.
I, too, would be afraid to suggest that socialism at the provincial level is possible since CUSFTA. NAFTA and nearly full privatization of money creation since 1991. According to certain "socialists" in Canada, the political and economic conditions today are exactly the same as they were in Tommy Douglas' time, which is crazily not true.
Very good Stock. But it doesn't matter so long as they are competent, have a modicum of political sense, but most of all prepared to oppose the destructive neo-con agenda and govern from the progressive-left. The old Liberal 'running from the left and governing to the right' routine will no longer work. The problems we face now cannot be dealt off by image consultants. Our resource sectors are dying -BC's bread and butter still- we now have the country's highest rates of child poverty and our once proud public sector is a mess etc etc. This does open the door abit again. I hope there's someone out there with the qualifications and the true grit needed.
All they have to do is not pawn off the family jewels and silverware to rich friends of the Liberal Party, like every other provincial NDP has managed to stall and prevent neoliberal agendas from happening when in government, and they will be significantly different from the Liberals/Tories in just that respect alone. It's not a complete socialist agenda, but it's not kick-back and graft Campbell style either.
Yeah the NDP needs a scrapper. Corky Evans, Fin Donnelly, Libby Davies, Nathan Cullen and Mable Elmore would all be interesting picks.
The new leader will probably be facing Christy Clark, who was scheduled to officially announce today, but who shrewdly postponed it to Wednesday, knowing her leadership announcement would have been relegated to the back pages. She's bright, articulate, with youthful energy, and it is going to be a challenge to defeat her as the new Premier of BC.
Corky would be great but I'm afriad hes had it with politics. Cullen is an intriguing possibility. And Libby too, although I imagine she too is done with any such ambitions.
Who is Fin Donnelly though, I'm afriad I never heard of him/her?
Christy Clark has a couple weaknesses though. She's actually quite hardline underneath her wit and superficially moderate facade. And she is very likley implicated in the BC Rail scandal. That would be another of my expectations, that any NDP government would launch a serious judicial investigation into how That whole school of fish was allowed through the judicial drag net. Far more serious than effing "patio-gate" ever was. So yes, let's hope she wins the Liberal nod.
The new Federal NDP MP for New Westminster-Coquitlam.
He replaced Dawn Black in a by-election last year.
Fin Donelly is the MP for New Westminster-Coquitlam. He was elected in the by-election to replace Dawn Black.
Thank you. I only hope someone can replace Dawn provincially too.
Let's let Vaughn Palmer, Keith Baldrey, and Michael Smith choose for us, eh!
So what's this I hear about Raif Mair asking Moe about his conflict of interest on the CBC panel this morning?
Sorry -just couldn't resist, but now probably isn't the time for such comments.
Hey YA --maybe we could even support EMay when she looks for another place to run!
Oh ya, not a good time for such speculation....
I have heard of penis envy, but leadership convention envy - anyway, time for a bit of humour on such a gloomy day.
B.C. NDP suffer leadership convention envy
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/12/06/brian-hutchinson-b-c-ndp-...
I think Katrine Conroy should consider running. I would also like to see some people from outside the caucus throwing their scarfs into the ring. I voted for Corky before and I must say I would vote for him again.
Here's the kind of leadership that the BC NDP needs - and as she was loyal to the end to the undeserving James, she will be well-placed to unite the party:
Showdown at the Hyatt Regency
Here we have the reason why Northern Report was so hot to help the boys from the Green Party savage Carole James here.
And then we have Erik basically insinuating a purge was going to happen to those women who supported Carole. Ie. Dawn Black....
The BCNDP soon to be back down to 2 seats in a province near you. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch, too bad for those like Mable Elmore and John Horgan who thought they had joined a party of progressives.
Peter Julian - Federal NDP Member of Parliament for Burnaby-New Westminster.
NR, the above comment is not "humorous." It's inappropriate. Please avoid using sexist terms when being funny or unfunny.
Joey Shithead?
Oh for christsakes.
First, most of the BC'ers who've posted in these threads (since Simpson was kicked out of the party) are NDP'ers, or former NDP'ers. The BC'ers have been overwhelmingly anti-James. The McCarthyist guilt by association you've accused all three of the Green Party Members (scott and West Coast Greeny), or one-time Green Party voter (Brian White) of is offensive. But it's par for the course when it comes to the insults you've delivered to anyone who dares criticize James leadership. The NDP needs as many progressive, left-leaning people to vote for it as possible. Those three aren't the types of Greens whom one could seriously call "Tories with composters." They represent the sorts of Green voters the NDP needs to win over, amongst others, should the NDP want to win the next election.
Second, Erik joked that Dawn Black should go too, as she's a part of the "old guard" so to speak. I don't know if that's a true characterization of her or not, though she has been in elected politics on and off since 1988, but calling that a call for a purge is yet another over the top charge.
Three, that's the most ridiculous prediction I've ever heard. I'm willing to bet money on how wrong you will be.
I think Clark wants to be premier for much the same reason as Campbell stayed so long.
She is just as implicated in railgate as Campbell is.
I definitely want railgate reopened.
I believe the fall guys retain some documents so (I know it seems awful) perhaps they could turn crown witness to help us find out exactly who ran the show.
So, I hope she fails to become the bc lib leader and later becomes a defendant in the reopened trial.