Violence or property damage at protests By: Michelle (103 replies) April 2, 2009 - 11:27amstatica wrote:one thing, By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 3:14pm) Or do the "organizers" of By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 3:12pm) I agree with you about that, By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 3:12pm) That Ghandi...he never By: Ghislaine (Apr 2 2009 - 3:23pm) Caissa wrote: This thread is By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 3:08pm) I have to agree with By: statica (Apr 2 2009 - 3:05pm) Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 3:02pm) N.R.KISSED wrote:I also By: ElizaQ (Apr 2 2009 - 3:00pm) Michelle,I 'm sorry if my By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 3:04pm) Michelle wrote: Isn't there By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 2:59pm) I don't understand what By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 2:56pm) Michelle wrote: Sure. The By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:54pm) It's Me D wrote:Could you By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 2:47pm) Those are good points, about By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 2:45pm) I think Judy's comments are By: N.R.KISSED (Apr 2 2009 - 2:38pm) Banjo wrote: The only By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:35pm) Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:32pm) In response to the thread By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 2:28pm) Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 2:27pm) I wonder what those who By: Banjo (Apr 2 2009 - 2:25pm) Good question, Caissa, and By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 2:22pm) Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 2:14pm) Michelle wrote: That to me By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:12pm) Ghislaine wrote: I was at By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:04pm) Joey, I am referencing the By: statica (Apr 2 2009 - 1:59pm) I have to say its obvious By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 1:55pm) Hmm...If someone makes the By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 1:45pm) Statica said: "Joey's By: Joey Ramone (Apr 2 2009 - 1:53pm) Maysie wrote: My argument in By: Ghislaine (Apr 2 2009 - 1:39pm) Joey's post highlights the By: statica (Apr 2 2009 - 1:28pm) My argument in support of By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 12:43pm) I completely agree with Judy By: Joey Ramone (Apr 2 2009 - 11:59am) Quote:It's unlikely the By: Frustrated Mess (Apr 2 2009 - 11:54am) I went to a protest a few By: Refuge (Apr 2 2009 - 11:54am) Property damage was very By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 11:59am)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Michelle (Apr 3 2009 - 1:45pm)
- Snert wrote:Quote: Except By: Cueball (Apr 3 2009 - 1:41pm)
- Quote: Except that there By: Snert (Apr 3 2009 - 1:09pm)
- M. Spector wrote: Except By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 1:01pm)
- Except that there comes a By: M. Spector (Apr 3 2009 - 12:34pm)
- I think that, short of civil By: The Bish (Apr 3 2009 - 12:23pm)
- I just think people need to By: M. Spector (Apr 3 2009 - 11:50am)
- Gandhi was a winner.He was By: George Victor (Apr 3 2009 - 11:19am)
- Michelle says it got good By: martin dufresne (Apr 3 2009 - 11:21am)
- Caissa wrote: So when By: Refuge (Apr 3 2009 - 11:19am)
- Snert makes a good point By: Ghislaine (Apr 3 2009 - 11:12am)
- Feel free to tell me how By: Snert (Apr 3 2009 - 11:11am)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Catchfire (Apr 3 2009 - 11:04am)
- Quote:Attacking a private By: Snert (Apr 3 2009 - 10:55am)
- To what extent do we care if By: martin dufresne (Apr 3 2009 - 10:55am)
- I agree it is ridiculous and By: Ghislaine (Apr 3 2009 - 10:53am)
- Goodwin didn't give a fuck By: Catchfire (Apr 3 2009 - 10:48am)
- Ghislaine wrote: Sit-ins, By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 10:42am)
- Michelle wrote: I've drawn By: Ghislaine (Apr 3 2009 - 10:32am)
- Michelle wrote:I don't think By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 10:20am)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Michelle (Apr 3 2009 - 10:17am)
- Michelle wrote: I agree with By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 10:18am)
- Caissa wrote:So when By: Catchfire (Apr 3 2009 - 10:03am)
- Banjo wrote: I wonder what By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 9:54am)
- So when violence is used at By: Caissa (Apr 3 2009 - 8:16am)
- I've drawn her attention to By: Michelle (Apr 3 2009 - 8:02am)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 3 2009 - 7:23am)
- Good post, Cueball. By: Catchfire (Apr 3 2009 - 6:45am)
- I see mythological Gandhi By: Cueball (Apr 3 2009 - 7:44am)
- Fundamentally, I think the By: Cueball (Apr 3 2009 - 2:33am)
- radiorahim wrote:Yes riot By: N.R.KISSED (Apr 3 2009 - 12:42am)
- Yes. I hardly think he will By: Cueball (Apr 3 2009 - 12:22am)
- As for Slavoj Žižek, By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 11:30pm)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 11:19pm)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 11:10pm)
- Yes riot cops are shithead By: radiorahim (Apr 2 2009 - 11:08pm)
- I'm really enjoying this By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 11:05pm)
- Quote:The initially peaceful By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 9:42pm)
- (double post) By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 9:12pm)
- In the end, such issues are By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 9:56pm)
- I have a real problem with By: radiorahim (Apr 2 2009 - 9:05pm)
- Who was upset about By: Tommy_Paine (Apr 2 2009 - 8:31pm)
- Well. I have enormous By: Ze (Apr 2 2009 - 8:11pm)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Cueball (Apr 2 2009 - 7:00pm)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 6:54pm)
- It's Me D wrote:saga wrote: By: saga (Apr 2 2009 - 6:29pm)
- In his 2008 book Violence, By: Catchfire (Apr 2 2009 - 6:08pm)
- In the context of street By: Tommy_Paine (Apr 2 2009 - 5:47pm)
- saga wrote: I've had the By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 5:33pm)
- Snert wrote:Missing entirely By: saga (Apr 2 2009 - 5:31pm)
- It's Me D wrote:Great post By: saga (Apr 2 2009 - 5:32pm)
- Michelle wrote: Those are By: N.R.KISSED (Apr 2 2009 - 5:18pm)
- "Communities which are By: remind (Apr 2 2009 - 5:17pm)
- Snert,I'm not sure what to By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 5:10pm)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 5:03pm)
- This could be a case of the By: Snert (Apr 2 2009 - 5:02pm)
- "Gandhi taught us not to use By: saga (Apr 2 2009 - 4:58pm)
- Snert wrote: I'm sure this By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 4:29pm)
- M. Spector wrote:remind By: remind (Apr 2 2009 - 3:42pm)
- Michelle wrote:I agree with By: ElizaQ (Apr 2 2009 - 3:34pm)
- Quote:I was responding to a By: Snert (Apr 2 2009 - 3:31pm)
- remind wrote: Frankly, I do By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 3:29pm)
- "Violence" doesn't depend on By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 3:27pm)
- Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Ghislaine (Apr 2 2009 - 3:27pm)
- Frankly, I do not believe By: remind (Apr 2 2009 - 5:14pm)
- Could be, M. Spector. I can By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 3:23pm)
- Violence at protests is By: Jingles (Apr 2 2009 - 3:20pm)
- Michelle wrote: I also agree By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 3:19pm)
Hmm...
If someone makes the choice to throw rocks or damange stuff, that's their choice, and it might piss someone off.
If someone makes the choice to say they disagree with such a choice, then they shouldn't be allowed to run their mouths because of it?
I respect your position on this issue (more than I did in 2001, btw) ;) but I think it's just as legitimate for people to talk about such action and oppose such action as it is for others to engage in such actions.
I think I agree with Judy on this one, though. I understand the difference in magnitude between breaking the window of a fast food chain and the violence of the state when it comes to poverty and police action and all that. But still, I don't really feel like violence and destruction is the answer.
Of course, then again, when Jose Bove "deconstructed" that McDonald's, that was a pretty amazing action. But I would say that's different because it was a group of people who decided that the entire action they were going to take would be to dismantle the construction that was going up. That to me is different than a few people taking it upon themselves to go to a vastly peaceful protest and start smashing things without any consultation from the rest of the protesters or the organizers.