Krystalline Kraus
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Ghislaine wrote:

 

Sit-ins, demonstrations, etc. are all peaceful and a completely different situation.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear when making this point so I'll clarify. While progressives see sit-ins, demonstrations as peaceful, that is not/never how the state preceives them. This is why the police are called.

They are not peaceful to the state because the state considers it "disturbing the peace" because it disrupts capitalism's business-as-usual concept (how can their be peace without justice?)

And when the police are called, they bring the force of the state's capasity for violence with them -- not just guns, batons and tasers, but the ability to threaten, intimidate, beat and arrest. They (the police; the state) brings down the violence.

(how many times have i been to a peaceful demo where people are literally chanting "this is a peaceful protests" while the cops are rushing in and beating the shit out of the people at the same time)

Essentially, what we consider as peaceful is considered a threat to the state. Sad but very true. This is why police behaviour (the state's behaviour) needs to be challenged in this regard.

 


Violence or property damage at protests By: Michelle (103 replies) April 2, 2009 - 11:27am
  • statica wrote:one thing, By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 3:14pm)
  • Or do the "organizers" of By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 3:12pm)
  • I agree with you about that, By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 3:12pm)
  • That Ghandi...he never By: Ghislaine (Apr 2 2009 - 3:23pm)
  • Caissa wrote: This thread is By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 3:08pm)
  • I have to agree with By: statica (Apr 2 2009 - 3:05pm)
  • Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 3:02pm)
  • N.R.KISSED wrote:I also By: ElizaQ (Apr 2 2009 - 3:00pm)
  • Michelle,I 'm sorry if my By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 3:04pm)
  • Michelle wrote: Isn't there By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 2:59pm)
  • I don't understand what By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 2:56pm)
  • Michelle wrote: Sure. The By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:54pm)
  • It's Me D wrote:Could you By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 2:47pm)
  • Those are good points, about By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 2:45pm)
  • I think Judy's comments are By: N.R.KISSED (Apr 2 2009 - 2:38pm)
  • Banjo wrote: The only By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:35pm)
  • Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:32pm)
  • In response to the thread By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 2:28pm)
  • Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 2:27pm)
  • I wonder what those who By: Banjo (Apr 2 2009 - 2:25pm)
  • Good question, Caissa, and By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 2:22pm)
  • Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 2:14pm)
  • Michelle wrote: That to me By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:12pm)
  • Ghislaine wrote: I was at By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:04pm)
  • Joey, I am referencing the By: statica (Apr 2 2009 - 1:59pm)
  • I have to say its obvious By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 1:55pm)
  • Hmm...If someone makes the By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 1:45pm)
  • Statica said:   "Joey's By: Joey Ramone (Apr 2 2009 - 1:53pm)
  • Maysie wrote: My argument in By: Ghislaine (Apr 2 2009 - 1:39pm)
  • Joey's post highlights the By: statica (Apr 2 2009 - 1:28pm)
  • My argument in support of By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 12:43pm)
  • I completely agree with Judy By: Joey Ramone (Apr 2 2009 - 11:59am)
  • Quote:It's unlikely the By: Frustrated Mess (Apr 2 2009 - 11:54am)
  • I went to a protest a few By: Refuge (Apr 2 2009 - 11:54am)
  • Property damage was very By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 11:59am)