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April 3, 2009 - 1:01pm

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M. Spector wrote:

Except that there comes a time in history (and we are very far from that time as yet) when "average citizens" are so desperate and angry at the state that they will embrace social movements who demonstrate they are not afraid to take violent measures if necessary in defence of their rights as against the violence of the state.

To use a famous example:

Southern Bread Riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_Bread_Riot

"The protesters believed a negligent government and greedy merchants were to blame. To show their displeasure, many protesters turned to violence."

(the price of bread is rising again and we have seen riots in parts of the Middle East)

Violence or property damage at protests By: Michelle (103 replies) April 2, 2009 - 11:27am

Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Michelle (Apr 3 2009 - 1:45pm)
Snert wrote:Quote: Except By: Cueball (Apr 3 2009 - 1:41pm)
Quote: Except that there By: Snert (Apr 3 2009 - 1:09pm)
M. Spector wrote: Except By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 1:01pm)
Except that there comes a By: M. Spector (Apr 3 2009 - 12:34pm)
I think that, short of civil By: The Bish (Apr 3 2009 - 12:23pm)
I just think people need to By: M. Spector (Apr 3 2009 - 11:50am)
Gandhi was a winner.He was By: George Victor (Apr 3 2009 - 11:19am)
Michelle says it got good By: martin dufresne (Apr 3 2009 - 11:21am)
Caissa wrote: So when By: Refuge (Apr 3 2009 - 11:19am)
Snert makes a good point By: Ghislaine (Apr 3 2009 - 11:12am)
Feel free to tell me how By: Snert (Apr 3 2009 - 11:11am)
Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Catchfire (Apr 3 2009 - 11:04am)
Quote:Attacking a private By: Snert (Apr 3 2009 - 10:55am)
To what extent do we care if By: martin dufresne (Apr 3 2009 - 10:55am)
I agree it is ridiculous and By: Ghislaine (Apr 3 2009 - 10:53am)
Goodwin didn't give a fuck By: Catchfire (Apr 3 2009 - 10:48am)
Ghislaine wrote: Sit-ins, By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 10:42am)
Michelle wrote: I've drawn By: Ghislaine (Apr 3 2009 - 10:32am)
Michelle wrote:I don't think By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 10:20am)
Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Michelle (Apr 3 2009 - 10:17am)
Michelle wrote: I agree with By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 10:18am)
Caissa wrote:So when By: Catchfire (Apr 3 2009 - 10:03am)
Banjo wrote: I wonder what By: statica (Apr 3 2009 - 9:54am)
So when violence is used at By: Caissa (Apr 3 2009 - 8:16am)
I've drawn her attention to By: Michelle (Apr 3 2009 - 8:02am)
Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 3 2009 - 7:23am)
Good post, Cueball. By: Catchfire (Apr 3 2009 - 6:45am)
I see mythological Gandhi By: Cueball (Apr 3 2009 - 7:44am)
Fundamentally, I think the By: Cueball (Apr 3 2009 - 2:33am)
radiorahim wrote:Yes riot By: N.R.KISSED (Apr 3 2009 - 12:42am)
Yes. I hardly think he will By: Cueball (Apr 3 2009 - 12:22am)
As for Slavoj Žižek, By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 11:30pm)
Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 11:19pm)
Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 11:10pm)
Yes riot cops are shithead By: radiorahim (Apr 2 2009 - 11:08pm)
I'm really enjoying this By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 11:05pm)
Quote:The initially peaceful By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 9:42pm)
(double post) By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 9:12pm)
In the end, such issues are By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 9:56pm)
I have a real problem with By: radiorahim (Apr 2 2009 - 9:05pm)
Who was upset about By: Tommy_Paine (Apr 2 2009 - 8:31pm)
Well. I have enormous By: Ze (Apr 2 2009 - 8:11pm)
Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Cueball (Apr 2 2009 - 7:00pm)
Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 6:54pm)
It's Me D wrote:saga wrote: By: saga (Apr 2 2009 - 6:29pm)
In his 2008 book Violence, By: Catchfire (Apr 2 2009 - 6:08pm)
In the context of street By: Tommy_Paine (Apr 2 2009 - 5:47pm)
saga wrote: I've had the By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 5:33pm)
Snert wrote:Missing entirely By: saga (Apr 2 2009 - 5:31pm)
It's Me D wrote:Great post By: saga (Apr 2 2009 - 5:32pm)
Michelle wrote: Those are By: N.R.KISSED (Apr 2 2009 - 5:18pm)
"Communities which are By: remind (Apr 2 2009 - 5:17pm)
Snert,I'm not sure what to By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 5:10pm)
Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 5:03pm)
This could be a case of the By: Snert (Apr 2 2009 - 5:02pm)
"Gandhi taught us not to use By: saga (Apr 2 2009 - 4:58pm)
Snert wrote: I'm sure this By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 4:29pm)
M. Spector wrote:remind By: remind (Apr 2 2009 - 3:42pm)
Michelle wrote:I agree with By: ElizaQ (Apr 2 2009 - 3:34pm)
Quote:I was responding to a By: Snert (Apr 2 2009 - 3:31pm)
remind wrote: Frankly, I do By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 3:29pm)
"Violence" doesn't depend on By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 3:27pm)
Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Ghislaine (Apr 2 2009 - 3:27pm)
Frankly, I do not believe By: remind (Apr 2 2009 - 5:14pm)
Could be, M. Spector. I can By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 3:23pm)
Violence at protests is By: Jingles (Apr 2 2009 - 3:20pm)
Michelle wrote: I also agree By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 3:19pm)

statica wrote:one thing, By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 3:14pm)

Or do the "organizers" of By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 3:12pm)

I agree with you about that, By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 3:12pm)

That Ghandi...he never By: Ghislaine (Apr 2 2009 - 3:23pm)

Caissa wrote: This thread is By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 3:08pm)

I have to agree with By: statica (Apr 2 2009 - 3:05pm)

Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 3:02pm)

N.R.KISSED wrote:I also By: ElizaQ (Apr 2 2009 - 3:00pm)

Michelle,I 'm sorry if my By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 3:04pm)

Michelle wrote: Isn't there By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 2:59pm)

I don't understand what By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 2:56pm)

Michelle wrote: Sure. The By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:54pm)

It's Me D wrote:Could you By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 2:47pm)

Those are good points, about By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 2:45pm)

I think Judy's comments are By: N.R.KISSED (Apr 2 2009 - 2:38pm)

Banjo wrote: The only By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:35pm)

Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:32pm)

In response to the thread By: M. Spector (Apr 2 2009 - 2:28pm)

Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 2:27pm)

I wonder what those who By: Banjo (Apr 2 2009 - 2:25pm)

Good question, Caissa, and By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 2:22pm)

Re: Violence or property damage at protests By: Caissa (Apr 2 2009 - 2:14pm)

Michelle wrote: That to me By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:12pm)

Ghislaine wrote: I was at By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 2:04pm)

Joey, I am referencing the By: statica (Apr 2 2009 - 1:59pm)

I have to say its obvious By: It's Me D (Apr 2 2009 - 1:55pm)

Hmm...If someone makes the By: Michelle (Apr 2 2009 - 1:45pm)

Statica said: "Joey's By: Joey Ramone (Apr 2 2009 - 1:53pm)

Maysie wrote: My argument in By: Ghislaine (Apr 2 2009 - 1:39pm)

Joey's post highlights the By: statica (Apr 2 2009 - 1:28pm)

My argument in support of By: Maysie (Apr 2 2009 - 12:43pm)

I completely agree with Judy By: Joey Ramone (Apr 2 2009 - 11:59am)

Quote:It's unlikely the By: Frustrated Mess (Apr 2 2009 - 11:54am)

I went to a protest a few By: Refuge (Apr 2 2009 - 11:54am)

Property damage was very By: martin dufresne (Apr 2 2009 - 11:59am)