One in nine men hire prostitutes - Want to talk about it? By: martin dufresne (103 replies) April 13, 2009 - 10:00pmmartin dufresne wrote:
If By: Doug (Apr 15 2009 - 10:48pm) Much like any other By: Doug (Apr 15 2009 - 10:32pm) CMOT Dibbler wrote:
One in By: Doug (Apr 15 2009 - 10:24pm) martin: do you think By: Ghislaine (Apr 15 2009 - 2:47pm) No, he could have paid By: martin dufresne (Apr 15 2009 - 2:45pm) Snert wrote:
Quote:On top of By: Michelle (Apr 15 2009 - 2:35pm) Quote:We should be fighting By: Snert (Apr 15 2009 - 2:11pm) What's there to talk By: josh (Apr 15 2009 - 2:04pm) sorry!
By: CMOT Dibbler (Apr 15 2009 - 2:03pm) Snert wrote:
Quote:On top of By: CMOT Dibbler (Apr 15 2009 - 2:00pm) If you are going to get into By: martin dufresne (Apr 15 2009 - 1:54pm) Quote:On top of all the By: Snert (Apr 15 2009 - 1:31pm) I am currently taking a law By: Ghislaine (Apr 15 2009 - 1:24pm) Tommy_Paine wrote:Is it that By: remind (Apr 15 2009 - 12:05pm) remind wrote:
Michelle By: Fidel (Apr 15 2009 - 11:38am) Quote:How many "Pussy Cat By: al-Qa'bong (Apr 14 2009 - 10:16pm) Is it that I am just getting By: Tommy_Paine (Apr 14 2009 - 9:24pm) I did catch an episode of By: Michelle (Apr 14 2009 - 8:59pm)
I agree more attention By: Tommy_Paine (Apr 14 2009 - 8:02pm) CMOT Dibbler wrote:
One in By: al-Qa'bong (Apr 14 2009 - 7:17pm) I heard John Moore By: Skinny Dipper (Apr 14 2009 - 6:53pm) One in nine men hire By: CMOT Dibbler (Apr 14 2009 - 8:03pm) Michelle wrote:If you start By: remind (Apr 14 2009 - 1:17pm) There is a film that is By: martin dufresne (Apr 14 2009 - 12:03pm) Martin, have any studies By: Maysie (Apr 14 2009 - 9:58am) I don't have anything to add By: Snert (Apr 14 2009 - 9:10am) Good point Not just hoping, By: martin dufresne (Apr 14 2009 - 8:56am) If you start including the By: Michelle (Apr 14 2009 - 6:40am) A considerable proportion of By: martin dufresne (Apr 19 2009 - 9:03pm) I'd really like to see how By: Papal Bull (Apr 13 2009 - 10:38pm) One out of nine? Maybe By: radiorahim (Apr 13 2009 - 10:25pm) It was to be in body and By: martin dufresne (Apr 13 2009 - 9:59pm) One in nine men FREQUENT By: Michelle (Apr 13 2009 - 9:58pm) martin, where did you intend By: Maysie (Apr 13 2009 - 9:36pm) Heh. You've not been able to By: Stephen Gordon (Apr 13 2009 - 9:25pm)
- Closing for length. By: Maysie (May 1 2009 - 4:31pm)
- DanielleB: "...I really By: martin dufresne (May 1 2009 - 3:31pm)
- Because they want access to By: DanielleB (Apr 30 2009 - 10:59pm)
- Cool, Danielle B. Why do you By: jas (Apr 30 2009 - 1:32am)
- Malarek is an abolitionist. By: DanielleB (Apr 30 2009 - 12:21am)
- Good interview with Victor By: martin dufresne (Apr 29 2009 - 8:22pm)
- Janet Bagnall features By: martin dufresne (Apr 24 2009 - 10:34am)
- Actually, I think this By: jas (Apr 22 2009 - 2:57am)
- martin dufresne wrote:I By: Daedalus (Apr 22 2009 - 3:05am)
- I think that "an injury to By: martin dufresne (Apr 21 2009 - 5:32pm)
- martin dufresne wrote:A By: Daedalus (Apr 21 2009 - 12:03pm)
- "Class solidarity under the By: martin dufresne (Apr 21 2009 - 9:36am)
- Hi friends, I work with a By: Nine Knight (Apr 20 2009 - 1:03pm)
- I don't determine my duty on By: Daedalus (Apr 20 2009 - 11:26am)
- Since most do not By: martin dufresne (Apr 20 2009 - 9:32am)
- martin dufresne By: Daedalus (Apr 20 2009 - 7:21am)
- If you happen to be in By: martin dufresne (Apr 19 2009 - 9:53pm)
- "...adopt a more principled By: martin dufresne (Apr 19 2009 - 10:25pm)
- Refuge wrote:Making it so By: Daedalus (Apr 19 2009 - 8:50pm)
- I wanted to include the By: Refuge (Apr 19 2009 - 7:55pm)
- martin dufresne wrote: But By: Refuge (Apr 19 2009 - 7:56pm)
- [quote=triciamaTo my mind By: Daedalus (Apr 19 2009 - 7:18pm)
- Martin, workers' By: triciamarie (Apr 19 2009 - 6:27pm)
- But isn't that more like a By: martin dufresne (Apr 19 2009 - 6:27pm)
- Workers' compensation law By: triciamarie (Apr 19 2009 - 6:22pm)
- It helps not to to think of By: martin dufresne (Apr 19 2009 - 4:49pm)
- As far as I know, By: triciamarie (Apr 19 2009 - 4:46pm)
- martin dufresne wrote: But By: Daedalus (Apr 19 2009 - 2:41pm)
- Great news! With the help of By: martin dufresne (Apr 19 2009 - 1:07pm)
- martin dufresne wrote: I By: HeywoodFloyd (Apr 17 2009 - 10:04am)
- Sorry if this is really out By: Hoodeet (Apr 16 2009 - 10:54pm)
- "Legalization" should never By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 8:03pm)
- It should be said that By: Doug (Apr 16 2009 - 7:14pm)
- martin dufresne wrote:Would By: Doug (Apr 16 2009 - 7:06pm)
- I can't believe I'm reading By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 6:25pm)
- martin dufresne wrote: The By: HeywoodFloyd (Apr 16 2009 - 6:11pm)
- The thread issue is men By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 5:58pm)
- interesting juxtaposition, By: remind (Apr 16 2009 - 5:57pm)
- Sure. I've never used a By: HeywoodFloyd (Apr 16 2009 - 5:43pm)
- Of course, you recast it. By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 5:53pm)
- Being disingenuous in my By: HeywoodFloyd (Apr 16 2009 - 5:16pm)
- Disingenuous in your By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 5:06pm)
- Martin, seriously. How do By: HeywoodFloyd (Apr 16 2009 - 4:44pm)
- Thank you, and no, I didn't By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 4:14pm)
- Do posts # 51 onwards answer By: Ghislaine (Apr 16 2009 - 4:06pm)
- I'm not trying to By: HeywoodFloyd (Apr 16 2009 - 4:04pm)
- Ah..., I thought you were By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 3:49pm)
- Martin, it is a reasonable By: HeywoodFloyd (Apr 16 2009 - 4:09pm)
- Well thanks for the By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 3:07pm)
- I think it may be By: HeywoodFloyd (Apr 16 2009 - 2:56pm)
- Well, I can't pull your By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 2:52pm)
- Martin, you don't need to By: HeywoodFloyd (Apr 16 2009 - 4:06pm)
- I also think the By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 2:47pm)
- Guess he found it, his music By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 16 2009 - 1:21am)
- Neil was very emotional. By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 16 2009 - 1:18am)
- Like I said, a horrible By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 16 2009 - 1:15am)
- "A man needs a maid" By: martin dufresne (Apr 16 2009 - 1:41am)
- Haven't found it but Neil By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 16 2009 - 12:58am)
- Any hints on the name of the By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 16 2009 - 12:30am)
- I'll look it up. Thanks By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 16 2009 - 12:30am)
- If you knew the song, you'd By: jas (Apr 16 2009 - 12:26am)
- I don't think Doug's By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 16 2009 - 12:22am)
- It's a Neil Young song. Just By: jas (Apr 16 2009 - 12:17am)
- I didn't really get that By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 16 2009 - 12:12am)
- Hey, dialogue! Good on ya', By: jas (Apr 15 2009 - 11:58pm)
- I miss M. Spector. By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 15 2009 - 11:34pm)
- If it's not clear, I feel By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 15 2009 - 11:26pm)
- So, ya, I've done it. What By: RevolutionPlease (Apr 15 2009 - 11:22pm)
I agree more attention should be focused on those who use prostitutes. Education campaigns are over due, and it's high time men themselves start to shift male attitudes concerning prostitution. However, criminalizing Johns is problematic for several reasons. Primarily, because this approach doesn't seem to work in any other facet of what we call "vice". And, it brings police in closer contact with the world of vice, which is good for no one.
Another problem where this focus could go very wrong is if it becomes seen as a panacea. There are many factors that lead to prostitution, some more significant than others. But all need attention.
The age gap between my eldest and youngest is 16 years. In those 16 years, I've seen the "Barbie Doll" transformed into "Bratz Dolls". While there used to be controversy around the emphasis on sexuality the now pedestrian "Barbie" portrayed, we now have a no holds barred doll that attempts to idealize modes of appearance that we'd usually associate with prostitutes.
And, if we take away the dolls, our kids can catch "Toddlers and Tiaras" on the missnomed "Learning Channel". When they aren't watching music videos of fetishly attired preformers whose musical talents are, in some cases, non existant. How many "Pussy Cat Dolls" actually sing? One, maybe? But it doesn't matter, as long as you can sell yourself sexually, you are a success!
This is what we are teaching our young women, and our young men about women.
When one takes a walk through the as yet politically unorganized neighborhoods to where the police have rousted prostitution, take your eyes off the ladies and the johns, and look around you. Check out the pay day loan places, the pawn shops, the tow trucks waiting for a call... for a tow?... in nieghborhoods where if one has a car, one fixes it yourself? One cannot have an industry without a supporting cast.
And we arrive at the part that substance abuse has in all this. And, it's nice to blame our Latin American friends for cocaine, or the nefarious biker gangs for crystal meth. But increasingly, you can thank big, untouchable pharma for niceties like Oxycontin, and our good friends at Health Canada that doesn't see that as a problem.
Yes, lets take a look at the whole neighbourhood.