Wilf Day
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It's not as though Tieleman actually believes this stuff about STV being bad for women. It's Ireland's national political culture that's bad for women. But he knows STV also elected women as 38 percent of Ireland's Euro MPs.

Dublin's City Council, elected on party labels by STV, has 29 percent women. (The London Assembly elected by MMP has 32 percent women.) And the Legislative Assembly of the Australian Capital Territory, elected by STV, is 41 percent women.

No, these are just debating points, not real reasons.

Perhaps his real reason is that winning an NDP nomination in a strong NDP seat is no longer the key to the old boys' paradise. You actually have to compete with other NDP candidates. Even with women.

A new young woman might actually beat one of Bill's old friends.

Unless he can convince enough voters that competition is bad for women. That was indeed the conventional wisdom in Europe in the 1950s, and 60s, and -- until Sweden changed to an open-list system and found it actually HELPED women. Turns out voters in Sweden, like voters in Canada, want to elect more women. Why not let them? 


STV is not good for Bill Tieleman By: ReeferMadness (87 replies) May 2, 2009 - 1:44am
  • remind wrote:Scotland has By: Wilf Day (May 5 2009 - 12:02am)
  • How much money did the By: Fidel (May 4 2009 - 7:31pm)
  • Quote:I've given the matter By: melovesproles (May 4 2009 - 7:26pm)
  • I have mentioned on one of By: Skinny Dipper (May 4 2009 - 7:03pm)
  • remind wrote: Wilf, sorry, By: Policywonk (May 4 2009 - 6:52pm)
  • So those Irish stats show By: remind (May 4 2009 - 6:04pm)
  • Thanks Vorshlumpf for the By: Skinny Dipper (May 4 2009 - 5:46pm)
  • Here is a page that has some By: vorshlumpf (May 4 2009 - 4:57pm)
  • I don't know if women were By: Skinny Dipper (May 4 2009 - 12:43pm)
  • Wilf, sorry, but your By: remind (May 4 2009 - 11:13am)
  • Wilf Day wrote:You would By: Catchfire (May 4 2009 - 8:30am)
  • Throughout the referendum By: Skinny Dipper (May 4 2009 - 7:42am)
  • Well Niilo, in fairness, By: ReeferMadness (May 4 2009 - 1:08am)
  • I have yet to hear an By: vorshlumpf (May 3 2009 - 11:44pm)
  • ReeferMadness wrote:I recall By: Wilf Day (May 3 2009 - 11:36pm)
  • Correct me if I'm wrong, By: ReeferMadness (May 3 2009 - 10:25pm)
  • remind wrote:1. Like I said By: Wilf Day (May 3 2009 - 9:42pm)
  • Wilf:  1. Like I said By: remind (May 3 2009 - 8:58pm)
  • Wilf Day wrote: The weird By: ReeferMadness (May 3 2009 - 8:02pm)
  • remind wrote:Thanks left By: Wilf Day (May 3 2009 - 5:21pm)
  • Thanks left turn, and am  By: remind (May 3 2009 - 5:06pm)
  • The weird thing about this By: Wilf Day (May 3 2009 - 5:20pm)
  • remind wrote: And why would By: Left Turn (May 3 2009 - 4:32pm)
  • And why would some votes By: remind (May 3 2009 - 3:55pm)
  • Tieleman writes that STV By: Baron Visi (May 3 2009 - 3:12pm)
  • Oh yes, let's vote for BC By: remind (May 3 2009 - 11:30am)
  • Skinny Dipper wrote:With By: Wilf Day (May 2 2009 - 9:30pm)
  • ReeferMadness wrote: Skinny By: Skinny Dipper (May 2 2009 - 7:19pm)
  • ReeferMadness, please check By: Naci_Sey (May 2 2009 - 5:55pm)
  • Skinny Dipper wrote: First By: ReeferMadness (May 2 2009 - 5:22pm)
  • About a week ago, I went to By: Skinny Dipper (May 2 2009 - 4:50pm)
  • ReeferMadness wrote:Bill By: Wilf Day (May 2 2009 - 1:10pm)
  • I've given the matter some By: ReeferMadness (May 2 2009 - 4:05am)
  • It's not as though Tieleman By: Wilf Day (May 2 2009 - 3:19am)
  • I know what you mean. By: Jacob Two-Two (May 2 2009 - 2:28am)