STV is not good for Bill Tieleman By: ReeferMadness (87 replies) May 2, 2009 - 12:44amremind wrote:Scotland has By: Wilf Day (May 4 2009 - 11:02pm) How much money did the By: Fidel (May 4 2009 - 6:31pm) Quote:I've given the matter By: melovesproles (May 4 2009 - 6:26pm) I have mentioned on one of By: Skinny Dipper (May 4 2009 - 6:03pm) remind wrote:
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About a week ago, I went to the www.trystv.ca website. Even though a random sample of people have not taken the STV style poll on the BC election, I counted the number of men and women that would be elected. At that time, I determined that about 31% of the winning candidates would be women. In the BC legislative assembly at dissolution, about 22 percent of the MLAs were women. I do think that if BC-STV achieves the 60% hurdle, in the first couple of elections at least 30% of the winning candidates will be women.
On to Bill Tieleman and David Schreck, two BC NDP honchos:
If I were living in BC, I would not be voting for the NDP this time. I'd rather vote for the Greens or BC Liberals. In theory, Tieleman and Shreck are running the First Past the Post campaign independently of the NDP organization. Unfortunately, the party leadership has not taken sides in the referendum debate. If the BC-STV fails to reach the 60 percent threshold and if the NDP forms a majority government, I can see Messrs Tieleman and Schreck being invited to work with Carole James.
I have always thought that the NDP represented average Canadians. With Tieleman and Schreck campaigning for First Past the Post, and with the BC NDP not taking a stand in favour of BC STV, I know that the NDP want to represent their own elite interests.
First Past the Post is for the party honchos;
BC-STV is for the people of British Columbia.