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Sineed wrote:

 

Dude - we've been talking about this strike on a couple of threads over here. 

Back-to-work legislation? Taking away workers' freedom? Show me where that has been discussed, please. I must have missed it. You just initiated that discussion. It's one thing to say workers are greedy and stupid (expression of free opinion) - it's another thing to call for their Charter rights to be crushed. Make the distinction, please.

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What I'm wondering is, how do you respond to this (I mean, other than how you've already responded)?

Same way I would respond to a petition by a 17-year-old male saying that women should be excluded from the workforce and be required to cook and reproduce. With utter contempt. This is the 21st century.

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This kid is getting some attention with this petition, and there are people who admire his initiative.

What's your definition of "people"?

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I have found the input of babblers to sometimes come in handy when arguing with folks.

Good. Tell them the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that free collective bargaining is protected by the Charter. Tell them that if they want to live in Iran or Colombia or some U.S. states, where trade unionists spend lots of time in jail or getting lynched, they should pack and leave before freedom of movement is banned after some other "petition". Tell them that workers' rights to withdraw labour do not take a lower rung to the right of this punk to freely express its opinion, or the rights of women to be equal, or the rights of people of colour to not be discriminated against, or the rights of people to freedom of conscience. Tell them that they can dress up the words "slave labour" into whatever fancy-ass terms they have been taught by their lecturers in school, but the ugly stinking face of slavery shines through the "Dear Sirs" and the oh-so-polite turns of phrase.

Or, you can translate the above into more polite language. I can't find the diplomatic words just at the moment.


Schism in Toronto CUPE strike: Summer workers start petition to get legislated back to work By: Sineed (80 replies) July 3, 2009 - 6:14pm
  • Re: Schism in Toronto CUPE strike: Summer workers start petition By: Doug (Jul 9 2009 - 3:06pm)
  • Hmmm... picketers demanding By: Unionist (Jul 8 2009 - 11:45pm)
  • Supposedly they are the By: Stargazer (Jul 8 2009 - 6:05pm)
  • Well why wouldn't they be By: remind (Jul 8 2009 - 6:00pm)
  • Never thought of that but By: Stargazer (Jul 8 2009 - 5:55pm)
  • Maybe they are getting paid By: remind (Jul 8 2009 - 5:17pm)
  • Saw some of those students By: Stargazer (Jul 8 2009 - 5:14pm)
  • Re: Schism in Toronto CUPE strike: Summer workers start petition By: Unionist (Jul 8 2009 - 4:54pm)
  • Yup.  It's either show up By: Michelle (Jul 8 2009 - 3:20pm)
  • Don't you have to do picket By: M. Spector (Jul 8 2009 - 3:17pm)
  • Thanks for posting that, By: Michelle (Jul 8 2009 - 3:15pm)
  • cmkl wrote: CUPE strike pay By: Lard Tunderin Jeezus (Jul 8 2009 - 3:11pm)
  • CUPE strike pay is $200 per By: cmkl (Jul 8 2009 - 3:04pm)
  • meanwhile Miller says "it is By: remind (Jul 8 2009 - 9:54am)
  • His first By: Unionist (Jul 4 2009 - 11:04pm)
  • Thank you old goat for By: remind (Jul 4 2009 - 6:47pm)
  • Self_important_ass.  I'm By: oldgoat (Jul 4 2009 - 6:37pm)
  • N.Beltov wrote: Well, it's By: Unionist (Jul 4 2009 - 5:12pm)
  • N.Beltov, the Facebook group By: Self_important_ass (Jul 5 2009 - 2:18pm)
  • Hey Brendan, While I agree By: city_worker (Jul 4 2009 - 4:57pm)
  • Well, it's true that By: N.Beltov (Jul 4 2009 - 4:21pm)
  • Hi, I'm the self-interested By: Self_important_ass (Jul 4 2009 - 4:14pm)
  • If the self-important ass By: Unionist (Jul 4 2009 - 8:38am)
  • I find this the most By: spatrioter (Jul 4 2009 - 8:19am)
  • I certainly empathize with By: Doug (Jul 4 2009 - 2:22am)
  • *hands clapping* By: remind (Jul 3 2009 - 10:15pm)
  • Sineed wrote:   Dude - By: Unionist (Jul 3 2009 - 8:26pm)
  •   I can actually sympathize By: Tommy_Paine (Jul 3 2009 - 8:17pm)
  • Unionist wrote: Maybe the By: Sineed (Jul 3 2009 - 7:56pm)
  • It's been a horrible day of By: Stargazer (Jul 3 2009 - 7:40pm)
  • Maybe the 17-year-old should By: Unionist (Jul 3 2009 - 7:31pm)
  • Not to mention that summer By: Cueball (Jul 3 2009 - 7:19pm)
  • That "scum" is probably some By: Michelle (Jul 3 2009 - 7:13pm)
  • Whichever scum started this By: Unionist (Jul 3 2009 - 6:49pm)
  • Whoops, I forgot to add the By: Sineed (Jul 3 2009 - 6:22pm)