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it appears they hired the right man for the job. With his nifty suggestion of minders, it'll soon be fit for the canucklehead market and probably sell like hotcakes. But like the old saw about voting goes: if it did any good they'd make it illegal..
This zionist lobby represents how much of Canada? I'll bet a very tiny amount....This zionist lobby represents what country? I'll bet Isreal...We do not live in Isreal .
But I'll bet this zionist lobby represents over 50% of lawyers in Canada....and that's why the cbc and ctv and the government must appease them.
I want my Al Jezara tv...sing it to the zionist lobby
Or Hippies? Has anyone read Abbie Hoffman's account of when he and Jerry Rubin went to the New York Stock Exchange and threw dollar bills down among the stockbrokers, who went primal and fought for the money as it fell from the mezzanine?
Some security guy said that hippies should be thrown out of the place. Hoffman replied, "But we're Jews! Are you going to ban Jews from the Stock Exchange too?"
Yes I am placing the Zionist the Jew and the Israeli , same no? and the majority of lawyers and neocons in the same basket. A good representative of the right wing establishment but ironically I find the conservative to be nazi like..go figure. It all boils down to fanatisim..they are all fanatics. Like all fanatics logic and reason get in the way and they bulldoze or bully their way thru their fanatic dogma forcing their veiws on everyone.
In Canada they represent a minority but swing way too much power. That they can dictate who,what,where and why we view any information is disturbing. At least they haven't been able to destroy the Internet yet but I'm sure they are trying every devious and probably legal means necessary to do so, if not they will make a law to allow themselves to.
What I would like to know is who gave them all this power? Could it be the majority of Canadians allowed themselves to be manipulated out of existence by their media. Or do they really have that much financial clout? Even more reason to have some alternate perspectives media wise.
Don't get me wrong I'm not antisemetic or racist , I just don't like being subjected to the neurosis of some powerful people in a lobby group. Nor should any body else, including the crtc.
But this thread is about trying to stifle Jewish groups, that seems pretty clear. If you don't like the CJC or B'nai brith position, write, scream, don't post here that these groups have too much power (which is how I read this thread) and should be silent or silenced.
Actually I got the impression that this thread was about certain Jewish groups attempting to stifle the voices of others. Silly me.
A quote from Burman from the CJC link above... "Canada is one of the only countries in the world that has neither Al Jazeera English or Al Jazeera Arabic, including the United States and Israel,"
We can all thank the CJC and BB for this privilege, and for preventing George Galloway from appearing in person to speak to a number of anti-war/peace activist groups in Canada. Please, tell us again how this is not about Freedom of Speech.
And we should all be grateful that our mainstream media is so good at tailoring the news for Canadian consumption. For example:
Unreal, am I on a progressive board? Buddy kat's last post needs to be closely assesed.
"But I'll bet this zionist lobby represents over 50% of lawyers in Canada....and that's why the cbc and ctv and the government must appease them.
I want my Al Jezara tv...sing it to the zionist lobby"
Jews/lawyers yes I have heard this one before. Real ugly.
Let me go look in the phone book..walks and looks into the phone book. Boy have things changed over the years perhaps the zionists and Jews aren't all that powerful in the lawyer world like they used to be. Holy smokes T. merchant is now a 2 page group. Years ago he was just a line. There was a time tho when it was very obvious. Well if the crtc allows itself to be intimidated by a small group of zionists there is something fishy going on.
Or Hippies? Has anyone read Abbie Hoffman's account of when he and Jerry Rubin went to the New York Stock Exchange and threw dollar bills down among the stockbrokers, who went primal and fought for the money as it fell from the mezzanine?
NDPP
delightful...
like the 'Free Money Here' vat scene from Peter Seller's 1969 flik: 'The Magic Christian'
Buddy Kat, raising the specter of some "Zionist lobby" comprising half the lawyers in the country who must be appeased by the leaders is, well, pretty iffy. I realize you didn't come right out and stereotype Jews as lawyers who attempt to control everything, but I can understand how people might have taken it that way. If that's not what you were getting at, then please try to express yourself more clearly in future. Thanks.
Buddy Kat, raising the specter of some "Zionist lobby" comprising half the lawyers in the country who must be appeased by the leaders is, well, pretty iffy. I realize you didn't come right out and stereotype Jews as lawyers who attempt to control everything, but I can understand how people might have taken it that way. If that's not what you were getting at, then please try to express yourself more clearly in future. Thanks.
I think this sentence is pretty indicative of how Buddy Kat views the world:
"Yes I am placing the Zionist the Jew and the Israeli , same no? and the majority of lawyers and neocons in the same basket."
Gus Williams keeps talking about "Jewish groups" - referring to groups that idolize the Israeli racists and war criminals.
Gus Williams is peddling the new antisemitism - the slanderous lie that Jews are agents or supporters of Israel. He is the other side of the coin of those so-called "anti-zionists" who are actually anti-Jewish neo-Nazis (no shortage of them on the web).
It's like talking about the G8 as "Christian governments". Or referring to Saudi Arabia and Egypt as "Muslim states".
There is nothing Jewish about B'nai Brith and the CJC. They are political organizations who ban Jews that don't agree with them.
Unionist is peddling utter nonsense. God knows he hates Canadian Jewish Congress and B'nai Brith but anyone will know that they are properly referred to as "Jewish groups".
What I find more disturbing is that no one, Uninonist or any of the mods seem to give a rats ass about this Buddy Kat who has engaged in some pretty distasteful and bigoted language about Jews and Lawyers.
What I find more disturbing is that no one, Uninonist or any of the mods seem to give a rats ass about this Buddy Kat who has engaged in some pretty distasteful and bigoted language about Jews and Lawyers.
The difference between me and the pro-Israeli-war-criminals on this board over the years is that I get pretty antagonistic over any hint of antisemitism here, which you would know if you had been around. The others, however, are too busy defending Israel and Stephen Harper to notice.
As for Buddy Kat, I read his comments carefully and think he didn't mean anything antisemitic by them, even though his remarks about lawyers were ignorant and could be read that way. I've read his posts over the years and considered the context accordingly. If I'm wrong, let him say so, and he will stand condemned.
Buddy Kat, raising the specter of some "Zionist lobby" comprising half the lawyers in the country who must be appeased by the leaders is, well, pretty iffy. I realize you didn't come right out and stereotype Jews as lawyers who attempt to control everything, but I can understand how people might have taken it that way. If that's not what you were getting at, then please try to express yourself more clearly in future. Thanks.
I think this sentence is pretty indicative of how Buddy Kat views the world:
"Yes I am placing the Zionist the Jew and the Israeli , same no? and the majority of lawyers and neocons in the same basket."
Regarding the lawyer thing ..I think I made it clear that after checking the phone book I noticed it wasn't as bad as it used to be. The lawyers nowadays seem by surname alone to be a good representation of the country. Regarding world views:
Well my view of the world has very little to do with Zionists jews and Israelites. They represent but a mere pittance of the population and intellect of the world, therefore my world views have very little to do with them. Your world however might be different and they might represent your entire world view.
However in this part of the world (Canada) my view basically is the same . A tiny group wields too much power .They know full well the power the media has on people from this part of the world..that's all. It will be a sad day in this country if al jezera isn't allowed to broadcast here. Will that mean you won the battle..hardly , it will just re-enforce what I'm saying. If they are allowed to broadcast here...you will lose some of the power that you have here , that's for sure. Maybe then you can resort to your ace up the sleeve....the Canadian lawyer. I'm sure you will use an Arab one ehhh?
Regarding the lawyer thing ..I think I made it clear that after checking the phone book I noticed it wasn't as bad as it used to be. The lawyers nowadays seem by surname alone to be a good representation of the country. Regarding world views:
"As bad as?" "By checking the phone book?"
Sorry Buddy Kat but IMHO you've crossed the line into anti-semitism here. And I'm speaking as probably one of the few folks participating in this discussion who's been to the West Bank and seen Israeli apartheid in action.
Thanks for coming out a little more openly with your feelings, Buddy Kat. But I strongly suggest you keep such feelings to yourself, because they're offensive, paranoid, and stereotyping.
Buddy clearly has some issues he needs to sort out. At the very minimum, he too easily resorts to stereotyping, and clearly suffers a bit of paranoia. I hope that's all that's at work here, and I hope he thinks it over for a while and comes back a little more self-conscious.
On the other hand, his issues and confusion seem no worse than Gus Williams', or Winnifred's - whom we've tolerated for a long time around here.
Regarding the lawyer thing ..I think I made it clear that after checking the phone book I noticed it wasn't as bad as it used to be. The lawyers nowadays seem by surname alone to be a good representation of the country. Regarding world views:
"As bad as?" "By checking the phone book?"
Sorry Buddy Kat but IMHO you've crossed the line into anti-semitism here. And I'm speaking as probably one of the few folks participating in this discussion who's been to the West Bank and seen Israeli apartheid in action.
The "as bad as" comment refers to the once unbalanced amount of lawyers from my observations and doesn’t mean it was a bad thing just unbalanced to me. I did do a google on jews and lawyers and was shocked at the amount of stereotyping out there. What was more shocking was seeing doctors included in the mess. That is something I never ever noticed and don’t agree with at all.
On the other hand, his issues and confusion seem no worse than Gus Williams', or Winnifred's - whom we've tolerated for a long time around here.
I have no idea where this accusation comes from. The comparision with Buddy Kat is improper.
I will also point out that Buddy Kat also feeds into the "Jews as having more power than others" fallacy. There is more here than just lawyers.
Buddy Kat: "However in this part of the world (Canada) my view basically is the same . A tiny group wields too much power .They know full well the power the media has on people from this part of the world..that's all. It will be a sad day in this country if al jezera isn't allowed to broadcast here. Will that mean you won the battle..hardly , it will just re-enforce what I'm saying. If they are allowed to broadcast here...you will lose some of the power that you have here , that's for sure. Maybe then you can resort to your ace up the sleeve....the Canadian lawyer. I'm sure you will use an Arab one ehhh?"
Well from this thread it should be very clear to al jezeera that they had better dot every i and cross every T because everything they say will be heavily scrutinized by these anti al jezeera lobbyists and from one angle only...who's paranoid? Because of that I doubt al jezeera will last too long in Canada anyways. Only one way to find out and that's to let them broadcast here.
Well from this thread it should be very clear to al jezeera that they had better dot every i and cross every T because everything they say will be heavily scrutinized by these anti al jezeera lobbyists and from one angle only...who's paranoid? Because of that I doubt al jezeera will last too long in Canada anyways. Only one way to find out and that's to let them broadcast here.
Well from this thread it should be very clear to al jezeera that they had better dot every i and cross every T because everything they say will be heavily scrutinized by these anti al jezeera lobbyists and from one angle only...who's paranoid? Because of that I doubt al jezeera will last too long in Canada anyways. Only one way to find out and that's to let them broadcast here.
Frankly Al Jazeera English is now looking a lot like CBC Newsworld. They are bending over backwards to placate the Zionist lobby.
it appears they hired the right man for the job. With his nifty suggestion of minders, it'll soon be fit for the canucklehead market and probably sell like hotcakes. But like the old saw about voting goes: if it did any good they'd make it illegal..
This zionist lobby represents how much of Canada? I'll bet a very tiny amount....This zionist lobby represents what country? I'll bet Isreal...We do not live in Isreal .
But I'll bet this zionist lobby represents over 50% of lawyers in Canada....and that's why the cbc and ctv and the government must appease them.
I want my Al Jezara tv...sing it to the zionist lobby
Unreal, am I on a progressive board? Buddy kat's last post needs to be closely assesed.
"But I'll bet this zionist lobby represents over 50% of lawyers in Canada....and that's why the cbc and ctv and the government must appease them.
I want my Al Jezara tv...sing it to the zionist lobby
"
Jews/lawyers yes I have heard this one before. Real ugly.
Are you conflating Jews with the Zionist lobby?
or lawyers...?
Or Hippies? Has anyone read Abbie Hoffman's account of when he and Jerry Rubin went to the New York Stock Exchange and threw dollar bills down among the stockbrokers, who went primal and fought for the money as it fell from the mezzanine?
Some security guy said that hippies should be thrown out of the place. Hoffman replied, "But we're Jews! Are you going to ban Jews from the Stock Exchange too?"
Yes I am placing the Zionist the Jew and the Israeli , same no? and the majority of lawyers and neocons in the same basket. A good representative of the right wing establishment but ironically I find the conservative to be nazi like..go figure. It all boils down to fanatisim..they are all fanatics. Like all fanatics logic and reason get in the way and they bulldoze or bully their way thru their fanatic dogma forcing their veiws on everyone.
In Canada they represent a minority but swing way too much power. That they can dictate who,what,where and why we view any information is disturbing.
At least they haven't been able to destroy the Internet yet but I'm sure they are trying every devious and probably legal means necessary to do so, if not they will make a law to allow themselves to.
What I would like to know is who gave them all this power? Could it be the majority of Canadians allowed themselves to be manipulated out of existence by their media. Or do they really have that much financial clout? Even more reason to have some alternate perspectives media wise.
Don't get me wrong I'm not antisemetic or racist , I just don't like being subjected to the neurosis of some powerful people in a lobby group. Nor should any body else, including the crtc.
Actually I got the impression that this thread was about certain Jewish groups attempting to stifle the voices of others. Silly me.
A quote from Burman from the CJC link above... "Canada is one of the only countries in the world that has neither Al Jazeera English or Al Jazeera Arabic, including the United States and Israel,"
We can all thank the CJC and BB for this privilege, and for preventing George Galloway from appearing in person to speak to a number of anti-war/peace activist groups in Canada. Please, tell us again how this is not about Freedom of Speech.
And we should all be grateful that our mainstream media is so good at tailoring the news for Canadian consumption. For example:
Reuters Asks a Chain to Remove Its Bylines
delightful...
like the 'Free Money Here' vat scene from Peter Seller's 1969 flik: 'The Magic Christian'
The Revolution's here..
http://www.youtube.com/user/gulagospheremfg (videos 5)
Buddy Kat, raising the specter of some "Zionist lobby" comprising half the lawyers in the country who must be appeased by the leaders is, well, pretty iffy. I realize you didn't come right out and stereotype Jews as lawyers who attempt to control everything, but I can understand how people might have taken it that way. If that's not what you were getting at, then please try to express yourself more clearly in future. Thanks.
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I think this sentence is pretty indicative of how Buddy Kat views the world:
"Yes I am placing the Zionist the Jew and the Israeli , same no? and the majority of lawyers and neocons in the same basket."
Gus Williams keeps talking about "Jewish groups" - referring to groups that idolize the Israeli racists and war criminals.
Gus Williams is peddling the new antisemitism - the slanderous lie that Jews are agents or supporters of Israel. He is the other side of the coin of those so-called "anti-zionists" who are actually anti-Jewish neo-Nazis (no shortage of them on the web).
It's like talking about the G8 as "Christian governments". Or referring to Saudi Arabia and Egypt as "Muslim states".
There is nothing Jewish about B'nai Brith and the CJC. They are political organizations who ban Jews that don't agree with them.
One day I'm going to buy that man a beer.
Unionist is peddling utter nonsense. God knows he hates Canadian Jewish Congress and B'nai Brith but anyone will know that they are properly referred to as "Jewish groups".
What I find more disturbing is that no one, Uninonist or any of the mods seem to give a rats ass about this Buddy Kat who has engaged in some pretty distasteful and bigoted language about Jews and Lawyers.
The difference between me and the pro-Israeli-war-criminals on this board over the years is that I get pretty antagonistic over any hint of antisemitism here, which you would know if you had been around. The others, however, are too busy defending Israel and Stephen Harper to notice.
As for Buddy Kat, I read his comments carefully and think he didn't mean anything antisemitic by them, even though his remarks about lawyers were ignorant and could be read that way. I've read his posts over the years and considered the context accordingly. If I'm wrong, let him say so, and he will stand condemned.
"As bad as?" "By checking the phone book?"
Sorry Buddy Kat but IMHO you've crossed the line into anti-semitism here. And I'm speaking as probably one of the few folks participating in this discussion who's been to the West Bank and seen Israeli apartheid in action.
Thanks for coming out a little more openly with your feelings, Buddy Kat. But I strongly suggest you keep such feelings to yourself, because they're offensive, paranoid, and stereotyping.
Buddy clearly has some issues he needs to sort out. At the very minimum, he too easily resorts to stereotyping, and clearly suffers a bit of paranoia. I hope that's all that's at work here, and I hope he thinks it over for a while and comes back a little more self-conscious.
On the other hand, his issues and confusion seem no worse than Gus Williams', or Winnifred's - whom we've tolerated for a long time around here.
I definitely agree that assuming all lawyers with Jewish-sounding surnames to be Zionists is crossing the line.
"I definitely agree that assuming all lawyers with Jewish-sounding surnames to be Zionists is crossing the line".
...and assuming all lawyers without Jewish-sounding names (whatever that is) are not Zionists, is just plain wrong.
The "as bad as" comment refers to the once unbalanced amount of lawyers from my observations and doesn’t mean it was a bad thing just unbalanced to me. I did do a google on jews and lawyers and was shocked at the amount of stereotyping out there. What was more shocking was seeing doctors included in the mess. That is something I never ever noticed and don’t agree with at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkM5eyN8ytI&feature=user
I will also point out that Buddy Kat also feeds into the "Jews as having more power than others" fallacy. There is more here than just lawyers.
Buddy Kat: "However in this part of the world (Canada) my view basically is the same . A tiny group wields too much power .They know full well the power the media has on people from this part of the world..that's all. It will be a sad day in this country if al jezera isn't allowed to broadcast here. Will that mean you won the battle..hardly , it will just re-enforce what I'm saying. If they are allowed to broadcast here...you will lose some of the power that you have here , that's for sure. Maybe then you can resort to your ace up the sleeve....the Canadian lawyer. I'm sure you will use an Arab one ehhh?"
Well from this thread it should be very clear to al jezeera that they had better dot every i and cross every T because everything they say will be heavily scrutinized by these anti al jezeera lobbyists and from one angle only...who's paranoid? Because of that I doubt al jezeera will last too long in Canada anyways. Only one way to find out and that's to let them broadcast here.
Well from this thread it should be very clear to al jezeera that they had better dot every i and cross every T because everything they say will be heavily scrutinized by these anti al jezeera lobbyists and from one angle only...who's paranoid? Because of that I doubt al jezeera will last too long in Canada anyways. Only one way to find out and that's to let them broadcast here.
Well from this thread it should be very clear to al jezeera that they had better dot every i and cross every T because everything they say will be heavily scrutinized by these anti al jezeera lobbyists and from one angle only...who's paranoid? Because of that I doubt al jezeera will last too long in Canada anyways. Only one way to find out and that's to let them broadcast here.