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I thought Saskatoon was the 'Paris of the Prairies'?
July 20, 2009 - 11:56am
The rabble article is entitled: "Saskatchewan: Paris of the Prairies".
I get the analogy...but isn't it a bit off the mark to equate an entire province to that of a city? (All considerations for population set aside, of course.)
Perhaps, "Saskatchewan: Ile-de-France of the Prairies" would be more accurate?
I have passed through Saskatchewan several times, sometimes even stopping for the night, without once thinking of Paris. Once in Estavan though, I mused briefly about Bowmanville.
Ah, Estevan...'City of Lights'...or as I like to call it, "The Blind Crest of the Prairies"...
Yeah, I've been there and, strangely, never thought I was in Paris. I hate when cities try to position themslves as miniature versions of other cities. Toronto isn't New York and shouldn't try to be. It's a great city in its own right. And Montreal isn't Paris. It's fucking better! Yet my welcome package at my hotel last time I was in Montreal had this line about "it's like Paris...right in North America."
My home town of Oshawa is striving with some success to become the Flint Michigan of the north.
Yikes, goat...don't like the sounds of that, but I think you're right. I'm not a fan of using other places as points of reference for wherever you are. I'm in Toronto, not New York...how do I know? Well, there's no garbage lying around everywhere...hey, wait a minute!
Link to the article in question
It's not really about comparisons to Paris, that's just her efforts at a hook. Sorry to be a downer but there's some good stuff there about what will be done with the "Sask miracle" ...
Sometimes I think of Summerside, PEI, as being the Charlottetown of Prince County.
I was going to post the same thing, but never got around to it.
I live in Saskatoon. I've been to Paris. The comparison is worse than ridiculous, it's embarrassing, although our air is cleaner.
On the other hand, Montmartre, Saskatchewan, has a Tour Eiffel.
I live in Regina and I guess I do not really see the connection not that I ever want to go to Paris. It was a good story though. The boom is nothing miraculous it is the same old tired formula for creating jobs and capital that every other province has incorporated. Exploit natural resources until they die. When the resources run dry then the boom will go bust and people will leave Sask. in droves just like the 1980's. Sask. will be right back at square nothing but right now is the supposed good time. But how long can it last? I think a lot of boom-propaganda has gone into selling Sask. as a miracle. There is plenty of mythology about Sask. being this "pure" place where rents are low and cost of living is not noticeable and jobs flow out of a magical river and there are no longer any poor people - just ignore those pesky Aboriginals (or any racial slang you prefer). So you are all supposed to come and live and work here forever. But these are all half truths or even lies. Yes, if you have lived in Calgary, Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, or some large city then coming here might save some of your money on rents and mortgage, for the time being. To be truthful, the cost of living is shooting up tremendously in Sask. everyday and it is directly causal to the boom; which in turn creates greater strain on the working classes and the impoverished. Housing prices are going insane. Slumlords are a major problem in Regina, just to let you know, and this is their market. But you can always live in the suburbs - **insert yawn here**. Forget about all the wonderful jobs you hear, a Tony Roma's is still a Tony Roma's, Wal-Mart is still Wal-Mart and working manual labour is still working manual labour. If you want to mine and mill uranium and be a part of oil sands exploitation then that is your call. The only thing that Sask. is really asking for is warm bodies to send into the mills, more servers in the restaurants, more unskilled manual labour, and more doctors and nurses, but please no union reps or any talk of the union-kind.
Of course, the Aboriginal pop which is severely underemployed and unemployed are passed some crumbs but nothing that could substantially create communal economic capital in any real way. But the boom is not supposed to because the system is designed to take the best and brightest and then separate them through economic gain. The majority of the Aboriginal pop. are at the bottom of the division of labour while a select few make it to some bullshit middle-class status - **again insert yawn here**. Boom times have not affected my social reality and they could care less about Paris where I come from.
"Alberta lite" is more like it. It's enough to make you weep.
(I don't really think we need someone who is from here and now in Toronto - they are legion - to write about this. There are plenty of thoughtful, articulate people who live here.)
A few years ago I looked into this question as part of some lighter information for a conference website. No longer online, but here's what I found:
An American columnist, tongue firmly in cheek, talks about moving to Canada after President Bush's re-election:
Googling "Paris of the Prairies" gives you a number of links to to the lyrics of "Wheat Kings" by The Tragically Hip:
According to Tourism Saskatoon, Gord Downie of The Tragically Hip called Saskatoon the Paris of the Prairies "for its proliferation of musicians, artists, writers and poets that call Saskatoon home and the continuing support from our festivals and events to promote our homegrown talent." (No word on whether he mentioned the river.)
It seems Winnipeg has also tried to use the title (even daring to attribute this to Gord Downie). Architect Daniel Burnham once called Chicago the Paris of the Prairies. And no doubt a handful of other prairie cities and towns have used the phrase. But no less a figure than Booker Prize winning author Yann Martel has confirmed Saskatoon's claim on the title. From news reports in April 2004:
Saskatoon's okay, and the river's nice, but we have a better park. I don't find an enormous difference between S'toon and Regina in terms of artists and culture, although due to having a larger stadium S'toon does get the high profile concerts.
Both are terrific cities, especially for their size. Neither one, however, has any claim on Paris.
We don't like outsiders to know about the South Saskatchewan, for like the Seine, it has been the preferred route of barbarian invaders:
This is fun to sing at Rider games.
Having lived in and around both cities, I must say I find Saskatoon a much nicer place than dirty ol' Regina. And y'know, I think I read somewhere that Saskatoon is Canada's sunniest place...even when Stephen Harper visits.
Regina's dirty?
Saskatoon is just a bigger Regina with more artists, and blah, blah, blah. The two are virtually the same in all regards. I have lived in both cities and there is not a whole hell of a lot of differences - socially, economically, culturally, and politically. Saskatoon has a river, so what, how does that make the city "cleaner." I am confused about cleanliness between the cities.
Hey, Regina has the Wascana, so its not completely river-less...but yes, I found there were a lot more slummy areas - a lot more unkempt, graffiti'd buildings, and run-down houses - in Regina than in Saskatoon.
Which is not to say S'toon didn't have its share of same, nor does it mean Regina didn't have its nicer areas - but I found the vibe and overall esthetics in Saskatoon to be quite different. If I compare the two cities, I definitely think of Regina as more rough around the edges - and just plain, flat...uglier.
But hey, it's not like Regina has that market cornered...right now I live in big, grey, corporate Toronto...there are parts of this city that make all of Regina look like Eden.
Saskatoon isn't much bigger - Regina's a comparable size. How do you know there are more artists, though? I'd say there are about as many here. Certainly there are considerably more filmmakers in Regina.
Saskatoon has a river, but much less park around it than our man-made lake has.
The cleanliness thing really has me stumped. I hadn't noticed Regina was especially dirty in comparison to other cities.
Yes Saskatoon has a river, but the potatoheads who run things here are trying to make it seem like an ocean. Why, I defy anyone to point out the difference between the bunkers on the Atlantikwall and "River Landing" in Saskatoon, other than that Rommel used fewer tons of concrete.
Yeah, it is called poverty. Check it out sometime. It is pretty radical and if you can make a living off of it then hey, you are better person than I. Slumlords are rampant in Regina and they know all about those 'slummy areas' and how to capitalize . The slumlords actually fight for their "rights" as homeowners here in Regina, nice hey.
Right. You'd never find that in Saskatoon or any other prairie city. Or Canadian city. Never, never, never. Slumlords are no more rampant here than they are anywhere else.
Can we stop with the Regina-bashing already? Some of us call it home.
Regina needs to be bashed and I was making a joke, lighten up. I too live in Regina and I grew up in North Central and now I live right downtown - 4 blocks outside of North Central. Slumlords are rampant and this needs to be stated. I know because I lived in their houses until I was well into my 20's and now I live in public housing; apartment actually.
I've lived in various neighbourhoods in Regina and rented from slumlords on occasion. Yes, they exist here. They exist in every city in the country. Regina's no better or worse than any of them.
Don't tell me to lighten up - if you were funny, you wouldn't need to tell me to.
Apparently Regina is worse than the rest of them.
Seems like a good expository documentary needs to happen.
Yes, but I am not talking about every city in every country. I am talking about the "worst neighbourhood" in Canada which happens to be in Regina - the Queen City. I apologize if you are offended at my useless joke - lighten up. But please do open your eyes and exert some actual critique other than everyone else is doing it so why don't we join in? This mentality is the classic race to the bottom.
Well, I didn't mean to be the cause of an argument...and I should say, I haven't lived in Regina for going on 7 years now, so perhaps it's cleaned up its act. I've lived in nearly every province in Canada, and so I've lived in far worse places than Saskatchewan's capital, that's for sure - BUT, I definitely saw LOTS of room for improvement there. It's just one humble opinion - I wasn't looking to offend.