NDP strategy for the next federal election, whenever that may be. (Thread 2) By: NorthReport (103 replies) July 18, 2009 - 1:12amA Guaranteed Annual Income By: V. Jara (Jul 18 2009 - 9:26pm) Not really. Sweden's VAT By: Stephen Gordon (Jul 18 2009 - 8:42pm) Okay, and since youre bigger By: Fidel (Jul 18 2009 - 8:36pm) In Sweden, labour market By: Stephen Gordon (Jul 18 2009 - 7:49pm) Stephen Gordon wrote:
So By: Fidel (Jul 18 2009 - 7:42pm) Stephen Gordon wrote:
So By: Unionist (Jul 18 2009 - 7:34pm) So giving money to poor By: Stephen Gordon (Jul 18 2009 - 7:33pm) Stephen Gordon wrote:
How By: Unionist (Jul 18 2009 - 7:18pm) That's an interesting By: NorthReport (Jul 18 2009 - 7:13pm) How about a Guaranteed By: Stephen Gordon (Jul 18 2009 - 7:03pm) There's no rule saying you By: ottawaobserver (Jul 18 2009 - 7:00pm) NorthReport wrote:
There are By: Fidel (Jul 18 2009 - 7:00pm) Um, has anyone given any By: Stephen Gordon (Jul 18 2009 - 6:51pm) StarSuburb wrote: The only By: adma (Jul 18 2009 - 6:26pm) Starsuburb your cut and By: remind (Jul 18 2009 - 6:25pm) When it comes to Cambridge, By: adma (Jul 18 2009 - 6:04pm) Re: NDP strategy for the next federal election, whenever that ma By: StarSuburb (Jul 18 2009 - 5:56pm) Source? By: George Victor (Jul 18 2009 - 5:26pm) Even evangelical Christians By: Policywonk (Jul 18 2009 - 5:05pm) There are a lot of By: NorthReport (Jul 18 2009 - 4:30pm) Don't think either of those By: remind (Jul 18 2009 - 4:27pm) I agree. Yes, use the By: NorthReport (Jul 18 2009 - 4:29pm) It was 6th in the country By: ottawaobserver (Jul 18 2009 - 4:16pm) Quote:Valerie Goodyear was By: remind (Jul 18 2009 - 3:38pm) remind, when there is an By: ottawaobserver (Jul 18 2009 - 2:55pm) remind wrote:
The By: NorthReport (Jul 18 2009 - 2:34pm) OO, had a look at the By: remind (Jul 18 2009 - 2:22pm) Cambridge, eh!
The NDP By: NorthReport (Jul 18 2009 - 3:11pm) adma wrote:
You forgot: By: NorthReport (Jul 18 2009 - 2:03pm) I don't know much about the By: ottawaobserver (Jul 18 2009 - 12:28pm) Hmmm that was insightful OO. By: remind (Jul 18 2009 - 12:25pm) I wonder if it might not be By: ottawaobserver (Jul 18 2009 - 11:36am) You forgot: Gatineau's not By: adma (Jul 18 2009 - 7:24am) Thanks OO.
Well if my By: NorthReport (Jul 18 2009 - 2:01pm) I saw that Jack Layton is By: ottawaobserver (Jul 18 2009 - 2:32am)
- Closing for length. By: Maysie (Jul 22 2009 - 12:17pm)
- Despit having said I am By: KenS (Jul 22 2009 - 11:58am)
- Directly contradicting what By: KenS (Jul 22 2009 - 11:54am)
- Stockholm wrote: I predict By: madmax (Jul 22 2009 - 11:46am)
- The potential for the NDP to By: David Young (Jul 22 2009 - 6:54am)
- You have done some good By: NorthReport (Jul 22 2009 - 12:50am)
- I think that's an excellent By: Lord Palmerston (Jul 22 2009 - 12:25am)
- remind wrote: Truth is By: Debater (Jul 21 2009 - 11:35pm)
- remind wrote: I do not see By: adma (Jul 21 2009 - 11:05pm)
- Nice work adma. It'd be fun By: V. Jara (Jul 21 2009 - 10:54pm)
- I do not see Sudbury as By: remind (Jul 21 2009 - 10:06pm)
- I think you've nailed it By: ottawaobserver (Jul 21 2009 - 9:49pm)
- NorthReport wrote:Now, as By: adma (Jul 21 2009 - 9:41pm)
- NorthReport By: Lord Palmerston (Jul 21 2009 - 7:46pm)
- A lot of that already By: Stockholm (Jul 21 2009 - 2:49pm)
- Uncle John wrote: The NDP By: NorthReport (Jul 21 2009 - 2:45pm)
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- IntelligentDesign By: NorthReport (Jul 21 2009 - 2:04pm)
- Why anyone would vote for a By: Stockholm (Jul 21 2009 - 2:00pm)
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- IntelligentDesign By: Debater (Jul 21 2009 - 1:27pm)
- Hull-Aylmer isn't going to By: IntelligentDesign (Jul 21 2009 - 1:15pm)
- And besides, Canada's By: Fidel (Jul 21 2009 - 12:54pm)
- The NDP is already highly By: Stockholm (Jul 21 2009 - 12:42pm)
- The NDP has strength in By: Uncle John (Jul 21 2009 - 12:27pm)
- This was posted at the same By: madmax (Jul 21 2009 - 11:31am)
- adma wrote:remind By: remind (Jul 21 2009 - 1:39pm)
- remind wrote:Moreover, the By: adma (Jul 21 2009 - 8:02am)
- V. Jara I agree with you, By: NorthReport (Jul 21 2009 - 1:50am)
- Not to rain on your parade By: V. Jara (Jul 21 2009 - 12:52am)
- Thanks Stock, the correction By: NorthReport (Jul 21 2009 - 1:47am)
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- There are polls and there By: NorthReport (Jul 20 2009 - 11:32pm)
- Debater wrote:remind By: remind (Jul 20 2009 - 11:08pm)
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- Another way the NDP could By: V. Jara (Jul 20 2009 - 10:35pm)
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- Debator Beginning of Sept By: remind (Jul 20 2009 - 11:39pm)
- But you are using last By: Debater (Jul 20 2009 - 10:31pm)
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- No sorry, debator, you can't By: remind (Jul 20 2009 - 7:07pm)
- So the Liberals are going to By: NorthReport (Jul 20 2009 - 6:41pm)
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- What a surprise. As if the By: NorthReport (Jul 20 2009 - 3:15pm)
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- Cutting taxes for all By: George Victor (Jul 19 2009 - 3:10pm)
- Stockholm wrote: Mouseland By: peterjcassidy (Jul 19 2009 - 1:50pm)
- How about putting taxes on By: V. Jara (Jul 19 2009 - 1:02pm)
- Wrongful conviction. By: Unionist (Jul 19 2009 - 12:20pm)
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- Mouseland is a cute fable - By: Stockholm (Jul 19 2009 - 9:36am)
- The day the writ is dropped, By: peterjcassidy (Jul 19 2009 - 2:45am)
- On the Alberta front, the By: V. Jara (Jul 19 2009 - 1:48am)
- Unionist wrote: Fidel By: Fidel (Jul 18 2009 - 10:54pm)
- More ways to save money + By: V. Jara (Jul 18 2009 - 10:26pm)
- Stephen Gordon wrote: A By: V. Jara (Jul 18 2009 - 10:22pm)
- Fidel wrote: Is this what By: Unionist (Jul 18 2009 - 10:10pm)
- Stephen Gordon wrote: Not By: Fidel (Jul 18 2009 - 10:07pm)
- A negative income tax and a By: Stephen Gordon (Jul 18 2009 - 9:33pm)
The NDP is already highly decentralized and there already is a Quebec NDP with its own organization etc... - the NDP is willing to "recognize Quebec as a nation within a Canadian federation" that was proven when the party voted for the H of C resolution to that effect in 2006.
"2) Ignatieff is only boxed in until the next election cycle. This is the same box that Dion was in. Harper pulled the plug last time, this time, Ignatieff will be able to choose when to get out of the box. The NDP will have no control when this occurrs."
The NDP actually has just as much control over when the plug gets pulled as does Ignatieff. It happens that the NDP has it clear that their answer to any vote that involves non-confidence in Harper is "bring it on!" - but that was a decision the party made. There is nothing (apart from riots by party members) to stop Layton from announcing tomorrow that the NDP will start propping up Harper and saying "the Liberals propped him up 79 times. Now its our turn".
3) The Liberals don't need credibility, the NDP do. The LPC will get cut alot of slack. People do not like Harper, and his antics on the worldstage continue to hold him back. People are looking for the alternative and Ignatieff is not Dion. Layton is tied to the failed Dion because of the Coalition. Ignatieff has freely disassociated himself from the coalition and Layton.
Dion is ancient history. The public has long forgotten who he was. He's irrelevant. Ignatieff knows that he can only go so far in "dissociating" himself from a coalition or from Layton because he has to know that there is virtually ZERO chance of a Liberal majority after the next election and that means that Iggy will be FORCED to deal with the NDP - or else he will never be PM - its as simple as that. I predict that no one will be able to pin Iggy down to the point where he will categtorically rule out any coalition. He will never want to tie his hands that way.