Cueball
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Redburn discovers Zizek after years of attacking Post-modern post-Marxists in the "dialetical materialist" tradition.

Zizek quickly disposes of the idea that the issue of the Iranian revolt is political dichotomy between "secular democracy" in opposition to "religious authoritarianism", and then establishes the lessons of the Iranian resistance in the context of how it reflects itself in the present order in the west:

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In this sense, in a democracy, the ordinary citizen is effectively a king, but a king in a constitutional democracy, a king whose decisions are merely formal, whose function is to sign measures proposed by the executive. The problem of democratic legitimacy is homologous to the problem of constitutional democracy: how to protect the dignity of the king? How to make it seem that the king effectively decides, when we all know this is not true? What we call the 'crisis of democracy' isn't something that happens when people stop believing in their own power but, on the contrary, when they stop trusting the elites, when they perceive that the throne is empty, that the decision is now theirs. 'Free elections' involve a minimal show of politeness when those in power pretend that they do not really hold the power, and ask us to decide freely if we want to grant it to them.

Excelent as always.


The Iranian Election and Its Aftermath By: NDPP (111 replies) July 23, 2009 - 1:03am
  • Sigh.  Its not about you By: Erik Redburn (Jul 28 2009 - 11:02pm)
  • Heh. I spent the better part By: Cueball (Jul 28 2009 - 10:47pm)
  • I gave it as example to show By: Erik Redburn (Jul 28 2009 - 10:25pm)
  • Redburn discovers Zizek By: Cueball (Jul 28 2009 - 10:27pm)
  • Heres another socialists By: Erik Redburn (Jul 28 2009 - 7:55pm)
  • Debate: How Should By: M. Spector (Jul 28 2009 - 2:33pm)
  • Where Should the Iranian By: NoDifferencePartyPooper (Jul 27 2009 - 1:53am)
  • For good. By: Michelle (Jul 26 2009 - 11:03pm)
  • Peech has gone on By: Maysie (Jul 26 2009 - 9:05pm)
  • http://site.iranlabor.com/ St By: NoDifferencePartyPooper (Jul 26 2009 - 8:58am)
  • Not really, apparently if By: Cueball (Jul 25 2009 - 7:33pm)
  • Cue: Don't you know world By: Peech (Jul 25 2009 - 7:25pm)
  • Peech wrote: Galvin and By: Cueball (Jul 25 2009 - 7:28pm)
  • The benign entity By: Peech (Jul 25 2009 - 7:24pm)
  • Forgot this gem of perverse By: Peech (Jul 25 2009 - 7:17pm)
  • Ignorance is By: Peech (Jul 25 2009 - 7:13pm)
  • I do recall someone claiming By: sanizadeh (Jul 25 2009 - 6:34pm)
  • Peech wrote: I don't know if By: contrarianna (Jul 25 2009 - 6:33pm)
  • Peech wrote:... many  on By: Unionist (Jul 25 2009 - 6:08pm)
  • Contrariannna: I don't know By: Peech (Jul 25 2009 - 5:47pm)
  • Peech: I'm not sure if your By: contrarianna (Jul 25 2009 - 4:36pm)
  • As does mine. Peech By: Peech (Jul 25 2009 - 4:24pm)
  • Unless you are Terry By: contrarianna (Jul 25 2009 - 3:58pm)
  • contrarianna wrote: I'm not By: Peech (Jul 25 2009 - 3:56pm)
  • I'm not sure why this troll By: contrarianna (Jul 25 2009 - 3:14pm)
  • Riding the "Green Wave" at By: Brendan Stone (Jul 25 2009 - 2:54pm)
  • NoDifferencePartyPooper By: Peech (Jul 25 2009 - 2:36pm)
  • Our Role in Containing Iran By: NoDifferencePartyPooper (Jul 25 2009 - 12:17pm)
  • Iranian Security Police By: Cueball (Jul 25 2009 - 8:48am)
  • Nuclear Iran Wouldn't Pose By: NoDifferencePartyPooper (Jul 25 2009 - 2:53am)
  • Iran's Absolutist By: NoDifferencePartyPooper (Jul 25 2009 - 1:14am)
  • New Great Game Revisited: By: NoDifferencePartyPooper (Jul 24 2009 - 8:26am)
  • Think maybe I will go to By: Cueball (Jul 23 2009 - 6:01pm)
  • Re: The Iranian Election and Its Aftermath By: sanizadeh (Jul 23 2009 - 5:03pm)
  • Iran's Tide of History: By: NoDifferencePartyPooper (Jul 23 2009 - 4:25am)