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Not all Canadian marxists, Fidel. And not all Liberals are bad in political war. In the practise of politics, one must find allies against the really, really bad ones, who, if they come to a majority in Parliament, will mean really, really bad times for poor folk and the grandkids.
A personal attack occurs when someone is named or back-quoted specifically, and then referred to in a clearly derogatory way, like I was just referred to directly as a bigot in another thread. That is a personal attack. What I was doing is trolling a little, which seems to be a central theme of this thread anyway. So what's the big deal? Youve said before you dont care to make mountains out of mole hills, and so here's your chance.
As I see it the essential lack of balance is this: those of us who support the NDP are supporting a visible political entity, with positions and practices. Those who attack are like querrilla fighters, who can attack from the right today, then attack from the left tomorrow. They do not admit to supporting any existing group, because if they did, they would open up what they support to criticism. So NDP'ers here are always on the defensive.
I wonder if all the dippers went away, what would people argue about then?
Take a break, Fidel, for chrissake.
I'll echo this.
Thanks Michelle.
I can't get my head around the notion that we should be careful of saying "The NDP's stand on [insert issue here] is stupid" because there are NDP supporters here who will take it personally.
Re-read the threads on this, Steve, and see if you can detect something about the great variety of people on here and who have been driven off here because not all formed in your sensitive mould.
Yes, excellent idea.
It would be Shangrila.
genstrike and Fidel, I don't suppose it would be possible for the two of you to ignore each other, would it?
Oh, look at that. 100 posts. I'm going to close this for length. :)
You have to admit that we do have a problem with carbon emissions in North America in the, "Yes the mainly US-based energy companies dictate our national fossil fuel policy to us" kind of way. And carbon taxation, however efficient and elegant it may be, is only a partial solution to a much larger problem affecting not only Canada but those largest benefactors of NAFTA clauses for Canadian energy exports to corporate America. And I'm not sure how promising to clobber Canadians with a neutral revenue carbon tax is going to help matters. It didnt work in Norway, so why should we accept criticism of the NDP for not making policy that which has no successful track record for stemming industrial pollution anywhere in the world so far?
Those other babbler progressives would have to find a new party to advocate for other than the "We're against the NDP" Partay
Hey, Michelle left the thread open!
PAAARRTAAAAY!
Nice try. :p