Is PETA directing "hate speech" towards fat people?

  I don't think I said that... But hey, thanks for the heaping helping of self-righteous scorn. It makes you ever so much more credible.   What I asked was: What evidence do you have that the majority of meat eaters have had food poisoning at least once in their lives. You haven't given me a lot to chew on, here. I did point out that food poisoning can be contracted through vegetables as well, guilty as charged. But it has been known to happen. (In fact, it's supported by your Alive magazine link - although the source is questionable, IMO. Homeopathy? Oy vey.)       First of all, most of your links confirm my assertion that you can get food poisoning from any type of food, including fresh fruits and vegetables.   There's emphasis, when we get into meat, that the cause of food poisoning is either a lack of refrigeration for storage and/or improperly or poorly cooked food. Also cross-contamination from unclean prep surfaces, that sort of thing. It's not the simple fact that meat is being eaten that causes food poisoning. I also note that a good chunk of the discussion in all but one link talk a lot about contamination of fruit and veg. Nuts are mentioned, too. I have a friend who got wicked sick on pine nuts that had been stored in the cupboard. I keep mine in the freezer nowadays.       I AM sure about the whole process. It's complete and utter bunk that anybody, regardless of what they eat, needs to have a hose stuck up their butt to clean it out.   Did you actually read the link I posted? There are risks to colon cleansing and it's unnecessary. The colon sheds the lining of cells and mucous, there's nothing for feces to stick to. It all gets expelled. I know there are people who buy the woo and that it plays on their worries, but it's just woo.   Do I worry about the meat I eat? Well, to some degree, but not in the way you're suggesting. I take care in what I buy, where it comes from - I buy in bulk from local farmers that I can acutally get to know, and from a neighborhood butcher shop that is very meticulous about the products they sell. I take care to store it properly, use a clean board/prep area and cook it sufficiently. All the same care that I take with vegetables, in fact. As for what it does to my body, healthwise, eating a small to moderate amount of meat seems to keep me on an even keel with energy, where as a (careful) vegan, I was always tired and found that my endurance with running (was training for a 10k race at the time) was much lower than when I was lacto-ovo vegetarian or ate omnivorously. At the present time, I am in excellent health. I don't have any of the health-scares that PETA uses to convince people not to eat meat. It's all about the balance.   I'm sorry you got sick that often. I think that's most unusual. I like to make sure my food doesn't make me or my family sick, too. As I've pointed out, I've never had food poisoning. Nor have my kids. My husband has had it once from eating bad burgers in a divy restaurant. I don't think we're all that unusual - but I'm open to evidence, if you have any. You just have to have some common sense.

Gripes, I posted two posts in the wrong thread....

 

Timebandit, I know that both meat eaters and non-meat eaters can get food poisoning. I never said we couldn't, what I said is in the links - the more meat you eat the more likely you'll get food poisning, which is well documented and given the way food is processed and handled these days, I'd say a lot more people are coming down with food poisoning. There is article after article on the web about the amount of people who think they have the flu but in fact, have food poisoning - the symptoms are the close enough that food poisoning is often misdiagnosed as the flu. 

 

As for colon cleansing - I've never done it and I doubt I will but I have friends who do it on a regular basis and personally, I'll take their experience about it over someone who is so quick to dismiss it.

 

 

I'm not suggesting you take my word for it - I've provided a link that takes its sources from professionals who know much more about the workings of the human colon than I do.  However, I'm sure that your friends' anecdotes are far more powerful than, say, doctors. 

I'm not sure, either, that you can claim I'm quick to dismiss it, either.  I heard about it, did reading on both sides and came to a rational conclusion some time ago.  The evidence, not just my opinions, don't add up to colon cleansing being anything more than a scam.  Just because you know people who have bought into it doesn't make it legit.

Hahahaha @Al Q

 

It's not as if there's any other absolutism around here  I don't think anybody is bothered by absolutism. What bothers people is absolutism they don't share.

 

I think there's a correlation between eating a lot of just about anything, and weight gain.

Donuts are a meat?  Well that changes my diet planning.

Sorry.  Should I have inlcuded a smiley there?

It was willful misinterpretation designed to bring a little levity.  I do that.

Not a problem.  I do try to communicate tone through my choice of words, but I realize that printed text is not the best place to do that.

Back to the topic, sort of: recently introduced edamame to my diet; great snack, not too high in calories, and loads 'o' protein to keep you from getting hungry for those meat-donuts

You could have beer donuts with your meat donuts.

[homer] Mmmmmm! [/homer]

I've had Chinese bun-like thingies that are a lot like meat donuts.  They're awesome! 

I also think the comparison of meat consumption to smoking is really stretching it.  Overconsumption of meat will cause health problems, especially fatty meats that are fried.  However, moderate consumption of meat that is leaner and well-prepared is no threat to your health.  A little fat is actually good for you.

In moderation, bacon fat won't kill you.  Now, if you eat nothing but bacon fat, well, all bets are off.

Balance!