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Entrapment by Rogers

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jas
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Joined: Jun 6 2005

I don't think I could handle an iPhone and the rest of my life. It would have to be one or the other. :)


Michelle
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Joined: May 10 2001

I don't think I could handle an iPhone and retirement.  It's one or the other - pay for an iPhone or pay for retirement.

BTW, has anyone noticed all the free freakin' advertising iPhones get on CBC's Metro Morning on the radio in Toronto?  Jebus.  It's like, every other day, we get to hear about the iPhone or the iPod or the iWhatever.


kropotkin1951
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Michelle wrote:

I don't think I could handle an iPhone and retirement.  It's one or the other - pay for an iPhone or pay for retirement.

BTW, has anyone noticed all the free freakin' advertising iPhones get on CBC's Metro Morning on the radio in Toronto?  Jebus.  It's like, every other day, we get to hear about the iPhone or the iPod or the iWhatever.

Same thing goes on in BC on the morning show.  One blatant advertisement after another. I wonder who is getting the kickbacks to air all the infomercials.

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Tigana
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Michelle wrote:

I don't think I could handle an iPhone and retirement.  It's one or the other - pay for an iPhone or pay for retirement.

 

Actually, using a cell phone may prevent you ever reaching the age of retirement.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/aug2007_report_cellphone_radiation_0...


G. Muffin
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Joined: Sep 28 2008

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Michelle wrote:

I don't think I could handle an iPhone and retirement.  It's one or the other - pay for an iPhone or pay for retirement.

BTW, has anyone noticed all the free freakin' advertising iPhones get on CBC's Metro Morning on the radio in Toronto?  Jebus.  It's like, every other day, we get to hear about the iPhone or the iPod or the iWhatever.

Same thing goes on in BC on the morning show.  One blatant advertisement after another. I wonder who is getting the kickbacks to air all the infomercials.

Same with the new www.quitsmoking.ca commercials.  Clearly, iPhone is paying for product placements. 


radiorahim
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Joined: Jun 17 2002

My question is...can we have an "iBarrie-free" week on CBC Radio One Toronto?

A week where Andy Barrie doesn't mention the iPhone, iPod, iTunes, the iBreakfast Cereal, iLawn Mower, iToenail Clipper or iTurd?

If anyone hears a week like this...let us all know!


Michelle
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Joined: May 10 2001

Heh.  Well, one thing about iBarrie is that it's fun to listen to the off-air ranting that accompanies his iPlacements. :D


radiorahim
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Joined: Jun 17 2002

iAgree


Bacchus
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Joined: Dec 8 2003

A friend of mine got a Koodo phone and was happy that he had no contract and thus was free of the crap from Bell or Rogers. I asked him what happens if he wants to quit and he said he had to pay $200-300 depending on when he did it. I told him he had a contract then just like Rogers and Bell.

 

I have Rogers (which sux) but I also have a US cell phone for when Im there for business. $25/month and no roaming or long distance anywhere in North America, plus free weekends and evening after 6 and free texting.

 

*sigh*


Sean in Ottawa
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Joined: Jun 3 2003

If you have a provider and they won't let you cut off your service because of arrears and bill you for periods when they had your service suspended-- you should sue them.

That's illegal-- it is usury (The billed service when not provided is a service charge which is interest under the criminal code); secondly they are being unjustly enriched by recieving payment for service they refuse to render. I am sure this would not hold up in court-- you are liable for whatever you recieved up till you cancel that is certain. You may or may not be liable for the remainder of the contract if you had one or whatever penalty existed in the contract -- but you are not liable indefinitely until you pay.

Secondly, you can challenge the termination fee or balance of contract fee. They may have the right to suspend your service for nonpayment but it is arguable that if they decide you are no longer credit worthy they cannot say it is you who cancelled. This argument I have seen in cases go both ways-- the argument could be made that you could therefore terminate a contract by not paying and waiting for them to cut you off-- on the other hand while they have the exclusive option to terminate yourservice they cannot continue to still bill you once they have done so. This issue is most often considered not in cell phone contracts but rental agreements. If you are kicked out for nonpayment of rent the landlord can recover costs to kick you out but cannot hold you to the end of your lease as well-- the landlord by kicking you out is terminating the contract including the right to future months. Like I say-- this can go both ways and the wisest decisions I have seen come somethwe in the middle with a reasonbale penalty and costs and termination but never the full lease and never indefinitely until the amount is paid. I am sure that provision is illegal.

It is important to remember that many companies in contracts or otherwise assert rights they do not have and cannot maintain when challeneged. It is worth it for them to do so because they only lose where challlenged. A good example is the sign you see in stores: "we reserve the right to inspect your bags." In fact they do not have this right ever. For probable cause (if someone saw you shoplifting for example) the police can -- but the store never has the right and in fact without probable cause neither do the police. So just because a company claims or says they can do something do not assume they can.


Rexdale_Punjabi
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Joined: Mar 19 2009

^^ know ur rights.

 

Drug dealers are way more ethical than dem 3 dont get it mixed up lol

 

But only decent plan is the telus student one for 25 u can get unlimited text so just tell ppl to text and unlimited local to 5, and unlimited local after 6 and weekends.

 

Bell has one to 10 ppl but no text and its after 9.

 

Rogers has... nothing.

 

Sometimes u do need a cellphone for calls for work,friends,etc but it doesnt change the fact that its shit.

 

I wonder if its cheaper to get a US cellphone and just do roaming here I know a girl from Florida who I think did that. SHit ill ask her at school n tell yall.

 

edit - all KKKanadian prices without extra fees like "system access" lol forgot to mention that changes teh game even more Im going South of the border for a phone fucc this lol even with a greyhound ticcet itz probably cheaper.


G. Muffin
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Joined: Sep 28 2008

I recently cancelled my contract with Telus Mobility.  I wrote telling them so and enclosed a cheque on which was clearly marked "cancel [phone number]."  Now I get a bill showing the regular monthly amount deducted from that huge payment.  I miscalculated the cancellation fee and only paid them 2/3.  Are they within their rights to continue charging me?  I want them to cancel the service and charge me the outstanding amount of the cancellation fee (which I'm unlikely to pay).  I think they are treating my feeble attempt at paying the cancellation charge as some sort of massive prepayment towards upcoming monthly balances.  If they were unwilling to cancel my service, they should not have cashed the big cheque. 


G. Muffin
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Joined: Sep 28 2008

More grief from Telus in the mail today.  Should they really be assessing GST on their extortionate cancellation charge?  It is neither a good nor a service. 


Lard Tunderin Jeezus
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Joined: Aug 27 2001

Death-grip contracts mean Canadians pay double for cellphones

Quote:
"The economic value of a contracted iPhone 4 customer in Canada is $3,689. Contrast that figure with the $1,598 value of a customer buying the same phone from a carrier in the U.K. Poor Canadian consumers are paying 2.3 times more for the same device - if they keep the device for the full term.


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