Infosaturated
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susan davis wrote:
your approach failed and clearly she saw the police. her trust of me destroyed because i betrayed her wishes, i have not heard from her again....how does that make you feel remind?

It's a good thing the topic came up again regardless of your hurt feelings. You need to understand that the girl is being repeatedly raped and the only correct response is to involve the police.

I wasn't going to go deeper into it but given your rant here you still don't "get it". Your thread was deeping disturbing on multiple levels. The title of the thread was "failure of the government to protect youth".

http://www.rabble.ca/babble/feminism/failure-government-protect-youth

Your post opened with "12 years old but i say woman because she spoke like a woman....". In reading the entire post it is clear that you shared this particular event as an illustration of the failure of government to protect youth just as the threat title suggests. It was not a plea for the board to advise you on how to handle it which you made clear later in the same post.

susan davis wrote:
the other young woman i met was in prince george and was also 12 having been a sex worker for 2 years. it was her birthday and we got her a cake and gave her some presents...she cried and so did all of us....when it was all said and done she had to go back to the abuse, we couldn't help her. there was no where we could take her, no supports for her to access...what could we do? bring her to vancouver?i mean shit.....

Leaving her there was criminal. When you come across a 12 year old who has been raped since she was 10 you call the police. She did not have to go back to the abuse. You were in a position to end it.  You failed. I hope that does make you feel bad, really really bad, bad enough to call the police next time rather than suggesting it's a mistake.

Your post closed with:

susan davis wrote:
i would like us to talk about ways we can begin to provide these children with the supports they need and begin to protect canadian children in a meaningful way.the complete and utter failure of our system to adress issues facing youth is disgusting...

You made your focus for the thread quite clear.  You did not close with a plea for help for that little girl who has phoned you. I hope the reason she hasn't called you back is that she found the kids helpline #. 1-800-668-6868 provided by oldgoat in the previous thread.

That thread was a textbook example of the result of normalization.  Referring to 12 year olds as women and sex workers. Yes, I know you apologized, the point remains that mentally you classified them as such rather than as child victims of rape. You stated explicitly that your choice of the term "woman" was deliberate.  Here is another one.

http://tinyurl.com/y9pqmwy

A Brisbane pimp who paid his child prostitute in chicken nuggets will serve just nine months behind bars.

Ronald Vikash Gander, 27, was described by a District Court judge yesterday as a ''sleaze merchant'' who treated the 16-year-old girl as a ''piece of meat'' after it was revealed he had forced her to have sex with older men and take part in a lesbian sex romp in order to pay rent on his Spring Hill apartment.

But wait, there's more:

In 2004 he was jailed for attempting to pull off a massive multi-million dollar fraud involving the sale of a Brisbane highrise building...He also forged a guarantee to purchase eight luxury cars worth nearly $700,000.

For those offences, Gander was sentenced to five years jail but the sentencing judge at the time recommended Gander be eligible for parole after he served two-and-a-half years.

How normalization of prostitution affects society as a whole is a relevant factor in the debate.

If you feel emotionally harmed by participating you do have to decide whether or not it's worth it. It doesn't give you leave to launch attacks on others.In my comment I specifically mentioned your apology because it was not intended as an attack on you and this post isn't an attack either.

You need to understand that there is only one correct response to finding out children have been forced into prostitution. Calling the police.

You were treated with kid gloves in that thread and this post is also treating you with kid gloves.

Lay off with the attacks.


At the UN, Dutch try to defend abject failure of liberalization of prostitution laws By: Infosaturated (63 replies) October 28, 2009 - 3:54pm
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