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Never Forget Iraq...

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mahmoud
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martin dufresne wrote:

I am not. His assassination - in blatant disregard of the Geneva Convention - puts all Western people to shame.

 

 i didnt say killed

i said GONE! lets look at the scenario that he is not in power compared to power

 

but even his death was after trial, and the nations involved have legal death penalty

If Canada killed him, then it would be illegal


sanizadeh
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martin dufresne wrote:

I am not. His assassination - in blatant disregard of the Geneva Convention - puts all Western people to shame.

You westerners should be ashamed indeed. After all when he was massacring Iranians, Shias and Kurds, The whole west, the communist bloc and the arab world were all clapping, if not lending a hand. The guy was a hero when he was killing them crazy Iranians, wasn't he?

No shame on our side for helping to hang a mass murderer.


NDPP
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Rape the final Frontier

http://uncensoredarabwomanblues.blogspot.com/2009/10/rape-final-frontier...

"During the 'tyrannical rule of the Dictator' rapists in Iraq were executed. A good deterrent don't you think? I think so too.."


sanizadeh
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NoDifferencePartyPooper wrote:

"During the 'tyrannical rule of the Dictator' rapists in Iraq were executed.

Unless the rapist was Uday. or a republican guard officer. or someone from Saddam's tribe. or ...


Unionist
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sanizadeh wrote:

No shame on our side for helping to hang a mass murderer.

I wonder if you'll feel the same when his assassins and their friends are strung up in Baghdad - and Kabul - and other places.

Don't be too gleeful about nooses. Murder and violence tend to reproduce uncontrollably.

 


sanizadeh
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Unionist wrote:

sanizadeh wrote:

No shame on our side for helping to hang a mass murderer.

I wonder if you'll feel the same when his assassins and their friends are strung up in Baghdad - and Kabul - and other places.

Don't be too gleeful about nooses. Murder and violence tend to reproduce uncontrollably.

Not necessarily. Back then Nazi sympathizers also thought they would some day take revenge on Nuremberg trial judges and prosecutors.  Talk is cheap. Considering that Saddam supporters believe it was Iranians or their agents who executed him, I am quite surprised that you are implicitly condemning my nation to hanging for the execution of one mass murderer. This is quite uncharacteristic. If the Israelis had the right to punish Eichmann, So did we. Although personally I preferred to see Saddam handed over to Iran than executed in Baghdad.


Unionist
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sanizadeh wrote:

Talk is cheap. Considering that Saddam supporters believe it was Iranians or their agents who executed him, I am quite surprised that you are implicitly condemning my nation to hanging for the execution of one mass murderer. This is quite uncharacteristic.

What a bizarre connection. I of course was talking about the murderers of Saddam and their friends - the U.S. and its puppets everywhere - surely you don't think they will escape justice in Kabul and Baghdad one day? Did you read Kabul or Baghdad as being in Iran? Shall I email you a map of the region?

Please be slow to applaud the murder of political leaders by the invaders and their puppet regimes.


sanizadeh
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Unionist wrote:

 

What a bizarre connection. I of course was talking about the murderers of Saddam and their friends - the U.S. and its puppets everywhere - surely you don't think they will escape justice in Kabul and Baghdad one day? Did you read Kabul or Baghdad as being in Iran? Shall I email you a map of the region?

I note a difference here between invaders (the US and coalition army) and a government in Baghdad that, in delievring justice to Saddam, carried out the wishes of a large majority of its people. I also don't agree that the current Iraqi government is a "US puppet". It is beseiged by the presence of the US army, but its foreign and domestic policies are not fully aligned with the wishes of the US government. I used to consider Maleki as an Iranian puppet, but he has also shown signs of independence from Iranian influence. The neocon men in Baghdad - like Ayad Alavi and Chelebi - were forced out of the positions of power after a short while after invasion. The US might have won the invasion, but certainly was not able to establish the kind of government neocons wanted.


Unionist
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Glad you approve of the regime in Baghdad and their taste for "justice". Tell me, was the Shah "fully aligned with the wishes of the US government"?

 


sanizadeh
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Unionist wrote:

Glad you approve of the regime in Baghdad and their taste for "justice". Tell me, was the Shah "fully aligned with the wishes of the US government"?

Shah was. Was there any occasion when he did something against their wishes?

I did not say I approve the regime in Baghdad. Just that they are far less of a US puppet than most "independent" Arab regimes of the region, from Saudi to Egypt to Pakistan to Jordan, are. and that's in presence of a large US army in their land. Once that army is gone, I don't see them end up as US allies. Also in my view, they do represent a sizable section of Iraq's population.


Unionist
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I see. So the U.S. invaded Iraq... why? Weapons of mass destruction? Revenge for the humiliation of G. Bush Sr? To bring freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people? They mixed up Osama with Saddam (those durned furrin soundin names)? For the heck of it? And they're going to leave now ("once that army is gone") and wish the Iraqi people good luck with their oil and strategic location?

 


sanizadeh
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Unionist wrote:

I see. So the U.S. invaded Iraq... why? Weapons of mass destruction? Revenge for the humiliation of G. Bush Sr? To bring freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people? They mixed up Osama with Saddam (those durned furrin soundin names)? For the heck of it? And they're going to leave now ("once that army is gone") and wish the Iraqi people good luck with their oil and strategic location?

of course not; but nations with long histories know that invading empires come and go. The US will not be able to stay there forever.


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War Crimes Case Filed Against 4 US Presidents and 4 UK Prime Ministers

http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/21292/War_Crimes_Case_Filed_Against_4_U_S_Pr...

"Today the Spanish Senate, acting to confirm a decision already taken under pressure from powerful governments accused of grave crimes, will limit Spain's laws of universal jurisdiction. Yesterday, ahead of the change of law, a legal case was filed at the Audiencia Nacional against four United States presidents and four United Kingdom Prime Ministers for commissioning, condoning, and/or perpetuating multiple war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide in Iraq.."


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Flowers, Candles & Tumors:

http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/

"This may be news to you, but all kinds of weapons were tested in Iraq, by the demoniacal terrorists called the Americans. Depleted Uranium is the most 'famous' one...Tumors are multiplying in Iraq at a vertiginous rate...sparing none."


NDPP
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Letter to the UN: Deformed Babies in Fallujah

http://www.unobserver.com/layout5.php?id=6744&blz=1

"Young women in Fallujah in Iraq are terrified of having children because of the increasing number of babies born grotesquely deformed, with no heads, two heads, a single eye in their foreheads, scaly bodies or missing limbs. In addition, young children in Fallujah are now experiencing hideous cancers and lukaemias. These deformities are now well documented.."


M. Spector
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Never forget what the war was all about

Quote:

Oil tycoon T. Boone Pickens told Congress on Wednesday that U.S. energy companies are "entitled" to some of Iraq's crude because of the large number of American troops that lost their lives fighting in the country and the U.S. taxpayer money spent in Iraq.

 


Boom Boom
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Wow.Surprised


NDPP
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The Calamity of Iraq's Orphans:

http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/news/war/11494-calamity-of-iraqs-or...

"According to the Iraq Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs January 2008 Report, 4.5 Million Iraqi children have been made orphans. Of these only 459 orphans are in government care.."


Fidel
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sanizadeh wrote:

NoDifferencePartyPooper wrote:
"During the 'tyrannical rule of the Dictator' rapists in Iraq were executed.

Unless the rapist was Uday. or a republican guard officer. or someone from Saddam's tribe. or ...

Iraq torture 'worse after Saddam' BBC 2006

And so then the Islamic wing of the CIA had to be imported to Iraq to help deal with the anti-US insurgency. No one expects the inquisition - Monty Python


NDPP
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Trained in India to Fight in Iraq:

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15877

"It was more or less expected that the US Army will begin using Indian military facilities and experience to train for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.."


NDPP
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Saddam Hussein - his last hours (part 5)

http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/2009/10/saddam-hussein-his-last-hours...

"Was Saddam hanged or murdered.."


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Exxon Mobil-led consortium nets 'supergiant' Iraq oil field

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=3&article...

"An Exxon Mobil led consortium has beaten rival Russian, French and Chinese groups to bag initial rights to develop Iraq's West Qurna field, the Oil Ministry said, adding momentum to Iraq's bid to unlock its oil riches. With reserves of 8.7 billion barrels, West Qurna is among the prized Iraqi fields eyed by Western oil majors.."

Incensed

http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/2009/11/incensed_08.html

"You can shove your international solidarity up your collective asses...you showed no true solidarity with us."


NDPP
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The Responsibility of the US in Contaminating Iraq with Depleted Uranium

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15966

"The US and UK administrations have subjected the whole nation of Iraq for decades to torture and slow death through the intentional use of radioacative weapons and the sanctions.[enforced by Canadian war criminals as well] The continuous and intentional use of radioactive weapons is a crime against humanity due to its undifferentiating harmful health effects on civilians in contaminated areas years to come after the military engagements.."


NDPP
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This is such an appalling and hideous feature of modern warfare and is happening in Afghanistan as well as Iraq. If we actually had 'representatives' worthy of the name they should be screaming bloody murder over this!

Help Deformed Children in Fallujah: Petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/hdcif/petition.html

"Young women in Fallujah are terrified of having children..."

No Voice

http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/2009/11/no-voice.html

"...Why do I have the feeling that I alone am interested in all this...where are the others...?"


NDPP
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Uranium in Iraq

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16098

"Abdul-Haq-Al-Ani's and Jamie Baker's indispensable book spotlights the appalling criminal enterprise now working itself out in Iraq.."


NDPP
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Iraq War Inquiry: Britain [and Canada] Heard US Drumbeat for Invasion Before 9/11

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/24/iraq-war-chilcot-inquiry

Thanks to US Occupation: No Rights for Women in Iraq

http://www.brusselstribunal.org/women241109.htm


NDPP
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Iraq Inquiry's Game Changing Evidence:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/26/iraq-inquiry-christo...

"Sir Christopher Meyer's evidence has surely made it impossible to claim that Iraq was about WMD and not 'regime change'..."


NDPP
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Cultural Cleansing in Iraq:

http://abutamam.blogspot.com/

"Why did the invasion of Iraq result in cultural destruction and killing of intellectuals..?"


NDPP
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Another Carnage in Baghdad...

http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/2009/12/another-carnage-in-baghdad.html

"...Contrary to whatever you may hear from anyone, this latest carnage is the work of the "democratic government" you pieces of shit intalled in Baghdad.."


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