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Women as an identifiable group under attack?

remind
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Have not looked further afield in the world, but it would seem so in Canada and the USA at least, from both sides of the political spectrum and indeed appears to be starting now in society at large.

Perhaps this thread can document some of the ongoing actions against women's safety and established human rights that are occuring.

 


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remind
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As a stand alone action, this may not have appeared to have been an attack against specifically women, but given the similar one of last evening, in the same city indicates clearly that it was.

In this the lead up to Dec 6th activities, it seems particularily ominous.

Has the the destruction of the Status of Women Ministry indicated to some, that women can be clear targets of oppression and hate again without society caring?

 

Fire at women’s shelter kills resident, 61

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OTTAWA — A 61-year-old woman is dead after a fire in a women’s shelter in downtown Ottawa Sunday night.

The fire broke out in a second-floor apartment at 515 MacLaren St. at about 10 p.m. Firefighters freed the resident, but she was declared dead at the scene.

J.P. Trottier, spokesman with Ottawa paramedics, said the woman suffered burns to 80 per cent of her body. She died soon after paramedics began to treat her, he said.

The woman’s name has not been released.

About 33 firefighters responded to the blaze, which Platoon Chief Dennis Gobey said was confined to the apartment.


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How is this specifically attacking women?

In the previous fire a 45 year old man died...

 

I think you're trying to create something that is not there.

 

Maybe it was just a fire, they happen.  Especially where elderly and children are in the mix.


remind
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Now of course the article says they are trying to confirm, as because they too I am sure understand the implications of 2 blazes in Ottawa targeting women....but words like "molotov cocktail" do not get thrown around without some fire going on.

Indeed later reports on the BC news have stated it is obvious that an accelerant was used.

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Fire investigators are trying to confirm that a blaze that gutted an all-female rooming house in Ottawa late Saturday night was deliberately set.

Fire officials said it was lucky no one was injured in the fire that engulfed the ground floor of the 19-room facility. Women ran from the building wearing nothing but pyjamas and bathrobes, some with nothing on their feet.

Investigators sifted through the ground floor to confirm reports that a Molotov cocktail had been thrown into the residence, home to 17 tenants, including many international students at the University of Ottawa and Carleton University.

Ottawa rooming house destroyed by fire

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Remind, I thought exactly what you did when I saw this news report yesterday. It's the second suspicious fire to affect a women's residence within a week. Maybe those "just happen" - but I don't think so:

Women's rooming house struck by suspicious fire

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Ottawa police are inspecting the scene of a fire in a downtown rooming house for women after reports that a Molotov cocktail was thrown through the first-floor window around 11:39 p.m. Saturday.

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The building is a rooming house for around 20 women. Most of them are new to Canada and looking for short-term accommodations.

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This is the second fire to affect a women’s residence in a week. Firefighters continue to investigate a fire at Cornerstone women’s shelter on MacLaren Street that killed a 61-year-old woman last Sunday.

"SparkyOne" sounds like an odd nickname in the context of these stories...


remind
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In the larger political context we have this recent action of Obama's, and the formerly reported here reality of the defunding of women's shelters and programs for victim's of violence, to consider as well...

Stalling over birth control

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It is bewildering that Barack Obama sacrificed women's rights and health in a vain attempt to woo Republican ideologues.....

You know what I don't want to hear right now about the Stupak-Pitts amendment banning abortion coverage from federally subsidised health insurance policies? That it's the price of reform, and pro-choice women should shut up and take one for the team.

        "If you want to rebuild the American welfare state," Peter Beinart writes in the Daily Beast, "there is no alternative" than for Democrats to abandon "cultural" issues like gender and racial equality. Hey, Peter, Representative Stupak and your 64 Democratic supporters, Jim Wallis and other anti-choice "progressive" Christians, men: Why don't you take one for the team for a change and see how you like it?

        For example, budget hawks in Congress say they'll vote against the bill because it's too expensive. Maybe you could win them over if you volunteered to cut out funding for male-exclusive stuff, like prostate cancer, Viagra, male infertility, vasectomies, growth-hormone shots for short little boys, long-term care for macho guys who won't wear motorcycle helmets and, I dunno, psychotherapy for pedophile priests. Men could always pay in advance for an insurance policy rider, as women are blithely told they can do if Stupak becomes part of the final bill.

        Barak Obama, too, worries about the deficit. Maybe you could help him out by sacrificing your denomination's tax exemption. The Catholic church would be a good place to start, and it wouldn't even be unfair, since the blatant politicking of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops on abortion violates the spirit of the ban on electoral meddling by tax-exempt religious institutions.

        Why should anti-choicers be the only people who get to refuse to let their taxes support something they dislike? You don't want your tax dollars to pay, even in the most notional way, for women's abortion care, a legal medical procedure that one in three American women will have in her lifetime? I don't want to pay for your misogynist fairy tales and sour-old-man hierarchies.

        Women Democrats have taken an awful lot of hits for the team lately. Many of us didn't vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary because the goal of electing a woman seemed less important than the goal of electing the best possible president. Only a self-hater or a featherhead didn't feel some pain about that. And although women are hardly alone in this, we've seen some pretty big hopes set aside in the first year of the Obama administration.

        The Paycheque Fairness Act, which would expand women's protections against sexism in the workplace, is on the back burner. Meanwhile, the Office of Faith-Based and Neighbourhood Partnerships is not only alive and well. It's newly staffed with anti-choicers like Alexia Kelley of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, which, as Frances Kissling notes in Salon, has compared abortion to torture.

        I know what you're thinking: conservative Democrats like Stupak took Republican districts to win us both houses of Congress. Thanks a lot, Howard Dean, whose bright idea it was to recruit them. But those majorities would not be there, and Obama would not be in the White House, if not for pro-choice women and men - their votes, talent, money, organisational capacity and shoe leather.

        We knocked ourselves out, and it wasn't so that religious reactionaries like Stupak - who, as Jeff Sharlet writes in Salon, is a member of the Family, the secretive rightwing Christian-supremacist congressional coven - would control both parties. Elections have consequences, you say? Exactly: Obama, the pro-choice, pro-woman candidate, won. Stupak didn't put him in the White House, and neither did the Catholic bishops or the white anti-feminist welfare staters of Beinart's imagination.

        We did. And we deserve better from Obama than sound bites like "this is a healthcare bill, not an abortion bill. " Abortion is healthcare. That's the whole point.

 


remind
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Though the following incidence could at first glance considered to be of a lesser note than the occurances above,  but in truth it has very far reaching and strong social commentary on the status of women  in society, it clearly indicates women as being less than men.

These young women, as like so many of my daughter's age and younger who erroneously believe that society is now equal, and all things have been achieved...and that nothing could be eroded, have indeed received a huge wake up call through this action by the courts and VANOC/IOC.

One wonders what the final result of this would will be, as opposed to what it should be....

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Women skiers who had hoped the B.C. Court of Appeal would breathe life into their dreams to jump in the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics were left in tears and rage Friday after the court quickly dismissed a case they had brought against the Vancouver Organizing Committee.

In a one-sentence oral ruling in which they said written reasons would follow next week, Justices Anne Rowles, David Frankel and Harvey Groberman simply said they were dismissing the women's appeal of a lower-court ruling that found while the International Olympic Committee had discriminated against them, VANOC wasn't obligated to hold a competition for them.

Female ski jumpers lose Olympic appeal

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OOps missed that.


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At a time when domestic violence facts are shocking -- 1 in 4 women will experience domestic violence in her lifetime, among other distressing statistics put out by the Domestic Violence Resource Center -- and many insurers are excluding domestic violence as a pre-existing condition, understanding domestic violence is crucial. Domestic violence is on the rise

 

....Initiatives such as Violence UnSilenced -- with its mission to shed light on the epidemic of domestic violence and sexual assault by providing online space for survivors and victims to connect, reach out and help one another as well as guidance for how to get help -- are important efforts to give women a voice, help them feel less alone, and get safe access to help and support.

Maggie, the founder and moderator of the Violence UnSilenced project, offered some insight and perspective in an interview about domestic violence and the awareness month.

Women Under Attack from All Angles

remind
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Even environmentalists want to get in on the exploit women action that is so acceptable nowadays, it seems.


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Bill McKibben wants to have supermodels strip to help broadcast his message  to stop global warming.  He hopes to offend some folks so they will help spread the word. We'd like to ask Mr. Bill McKibben strip off his clothes on camera next to his intellectual cronies who join him wiggling and giggling as they strip, like the models do. This sort of stunt by a known environmentalist could have just as easily gone viral but Bill McKibben chose to exploit women in his plight to save the earth. Wake up McKibben, you needn't stoop so low. Consider letting him know he should not have to exploit anyone to help save the earth. His email is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdz555JBIwY

http://mediawatch.com/welcome.html

 


susan davis
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exploit? for 6 years an annual fund raising event called dancers for cancer has donated money to the cause to end breast cancer...the exotic dancers donate their services and the club owners donate the money they would have normaly spent on wages for the dancers. why is it automatically exploitation is a sex industry related activity is taking place in support of a cause...

sex industry workers are socially and environmentally conscious, why would you assume they were being exploited?isn't it possible that they chose to take part and believe in the cause? your statement is like an attack against women, sex working women in that you assume exploitation instead of conceiving the possibilty that sex industry workers are politically aware contributers to society who actively take part in the causes they believe in.

i think this is in conflict with the title of the thread.


remind
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So you are now calling super models sex workers?

 


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Unless I missed something, it seems the first fire, that claimed the life of a 61 year old woman was undetermined-- investigators were brought in because of a death, not because there were immediate suspicions of arson.

Be that as it may, it doesn't make the second fire any less disturbing in my mind.

 

London's had a bad year for fires.  One fire official said on the news what I was thinking:  Some buildings were being torched for insurance, due to the bad economy; some are accidental fires set by homeless people trying to stay warm in abandoned buildings; and it's likely that some have been set by a serial arsonist.  But telling them apart is difficult, if not impossible.

 

But a molotov cocktail says something else entirely.


SparkyOne
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It's funny how sex industry worker finds it's way into so many threads lately.


susan davis
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remind wrote:

So you are now calling super models sex workers?

 

yes....i guess so...in your reference they were "stripping" and you found that exploitative.

i guess the sex industry is everywhere and so will find it's way into all kinds of areas.


wage zombie
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There is an informative diary on Daily Kos today with stats and graph:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/16/804876/-SheKos:-Death-by-in...

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Here in Portland, Oregon, area residents have been rocked by a pair of grim tragedies.  Last Tuesday, Rob Beiser of suburban Gladstone pulled up to the Tualatin office where his estranged wife Teresa worked and shot her numerous times.  After killing her and wounding two of her co-workers, he turned the gun on himself.

Two days later, the bodies of a family of three in Bethany, another suburban-Portland community, were discovered inside their home.  It was determined that the husband, Mukesh Suther had shot his wife Varsha and their nine-year-old son, Ronak.

As genuinely shocking as events like this are, there is also a certainly feeling of familiarity when one learns that the perpetrator was the husband, or the boyfriend, or the ex.  In my workplace (very near where the first incident took place), before we had any details about who had been shot and who had done the shooting, we were all concerned and horrified.  Once we found out that the person responsible was married to one of the shooting victims, our horror was partially replaced with a kind of sad but familiar resignation, as though it was something we probably should have guessed.

Even as I noticed this, however, I wondered - Is that feeling of "oh, no, not again" really justified?  Are we perhaps perpetuating an unfair stereotype when we think in such terms?  I mean, I know it seems like I hear about men killing their wives, girlfriends, and ex-wives far more often than the other way around, but is that perhaps media spin distorting reality, as with the obsession with the "missing white woman" to the exclusion of coverage other equally or more urgent cases involving women of color? Is the prominent coverage of men killing their female partners really an accurate presentation of reality?

So I did a little research and found that it indeed is accurate.  Very definitely, and quite sadly, accurate.


susan davis
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interesting read, thanks for posting wage zombie!


G. Muffin
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susan davis wrote:
...the exotic dancers donate their services and the club owners donate the money they would have normaly spent on wages for the dancers.

So, basically, it's the exotic dancers making the contribution to charity.  All the (presumably male) club owners are doing is getting free publicity.  Sounds exploitative to me.


Bacchus
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Well if its exploitative, its commonplace since mainstream companies do the same for charity like CIBC for the cancer walk.


remind
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Tommy_Paine wrote:
But a molotov cocktail says something else entirely.

 

Yes, it is, and they are being all silent about it today, as they understand the implications too....


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Bacchus wrote:
Well if its exploitative, its commonplace since mainstream companies do the same for charity like CIBC for the cancer walk.

CIBC scoops their workers' salaries and donates the money to charity? 


Bacchus
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Well the bar owners only do it for the girls that agree. And the CIBC does have a thing where their employees contribute overtime to set things up and do not get paid so yeah


G. Muffin
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Well, that's mighty big of those business owners, I must say.


Bacchus
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I agree, anything that gets money to a desperate charity is good


Bacchus
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I should point out theres quite a bit of pressure to contribute and work for free at the CIBC. There was no such pressure at the bar I was helping with. My CIBC employee friend was a bit bitter about the pressure


remind
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2 points in another  thread indicate that this action by the Canadian government should be in this thread too.

 

rural-franscesca wrote:
This registry is a step in the right direction of helping our police cope with domestic violence. One out of three women killed by their partners is killed with a long-gun. (Stats Canada) For a woman experiencing any form of domestic abuse, a gun in the home is an unspoken threat, a potential risk to her safety.

We need to keep this registry, we need to keep tools in the hands of our police so that more women are not killed. As we come upon the 20th anniversary of the Montreal Massacre, we reflect upon what that taught us, what preventative lessons we could learn. This registry was one of those lessons, one of the steps taken to protect women. Between 1991 and 2006, the use of shotguns and rifles in homicides declined by 65% because of stricter controls (Statistics Canada 2008).

This registry isn't about farmers and red tape, it's about women's safety

 

Sineed wrote:
I remember going down to the University of Toronto in December 1989 and standing silently, in shock, with a large group of women, many current U of T students, thinking of these women who laid down their lives just because they wanted an education.

And now, on the 20th anniversary, the government wants to celebrate by revoking the very law that was brought in on account of these women, a law that helps keep women safe.

 

 


Sineed
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Thanks remind :)

Some stats from the Sisterhood is Global institute (they're at http://www.sigi.org/):

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Women and Violence 

• Everyday, 6000 girls are genitally mutilated - more than 200 000 per year 

(2000). 

 

• Every year in India, 5000 brides are murdered or commit suicide because 

their marriage dowries are considered inadequate. (2000)  

 

• In the US, one in five women will be victims of rape in their lifetime. A 

woman is raped every 3 minutes. 55 percent of American women report 

having experienced rape and/or physical assault in their life-time. 10 

women are killed by their batterers each day (1998). 

 

• In Russia, half of all murder victims are women killed by their male 

partners. (1995) 

 

• Israel, Japan, Trinidad & Tobago, Brazil, Pakistan, Peru, Argentina, Costa 

Rica, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Ecuador and Tunisia each have less than 10 

shelters for battered women (1995). 

http://www.wallworkshop.com/pdf/Statistics_on_Women.pdf

susan davis
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dancers for cancers is organized by DANCERS not club owners......it's in a different club every time....the women are the organizers...oh right ...they couldn't possibly organize somethig and donate money of their own free will. you people have to make everything we do exploitative....it is a worker created event. clear now?


G. Muffin
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susan davis wrote:
dancers for cancers is organized by DANCERS not club owners......it's in a different club every time....the women are the organizers...oh right ...they couldn't possibly organize somethig and donate money of their own free will. you people have to make everything we do exploitative....it is a worker created event. clear now?

 

Here's what you said, Susan: 

susan davis wrote:
...the exotic dancers donate their services and the club owners donate the money they would have normaly spent on wages for the dancers.

 

It was the "and the club owners donate the money" bit that caught my eye.

 

Clear now?


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Hostile much G.Pie?


G. Muffin
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Stargazer wrote:
Hostile much G.Pie?

Interesting that my exact duplication of Susan's phrasing "Clear now?" leads you to believe that I (but not Susan, of course) was being hostile. 


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