Sean in Ottawa
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We need to remember that the NDP took the seat partly because of a great candidate, partly because the Liberals melted down and partly because of a HUGE ground effort. The Liberals are going to pour resources into the riding in the next election. Their candidate is a signal of that. If the Liberals want to and get their crap together they can outdo the NDP on the ground-- assuming they make the riding a priority. The Liberals also have a good candidate this time. So on those three factors that won the seat for the NDP it is now almost a wash.

In Mulcair's favour there is a huge recognition in the riding that this is a priority seat for the NDP and the NDP candidate is a senior New Dem that could at some point be tapped for the leadership. The influence gained from keeping this one NDP seat is greater than adding one more Liberal who-- at least for now is no more likely to sit on the government side of the house than Mulcair.

There are only two conditions that would make this seat safe for the NDP: the NDP come in to government or at least replace the Liberals as the main opposition party or Mulcair become the party leader. Neither is about to happen before the next election.


So...why wasn't Hochelaga closer? By: Ken Burch (96 replies) November 11, 2009 - 5:41pm
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  • I think those people will be By: ottawaobserver (Nov 13 2009 - 7:30pm)
  • That's a good on the ground By: Stockholm (Nov 13 2009 - 6:49pm)
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  • I think the simple reason By: genstrike (Nov 13 2009 - 3:13pm)
  • ... it's more than a By: ottawaobserver (Nov 13 2009 - 8:47am)
  • Maybe if one were to By: adma (Nov 13 2009 - 8:29am)
  • Another thing that convinces By: V. Jara (Nov 13 2009 - 2:14am)
  • BTW, it's so fantastic that By: ottawaobserver (Nov 13 2009 - 1:57am)
  • Probably the one union with By: ottawaobserver (Nov 13 2009 - 1:54am)
  • That being said Wilf, it was By: V. Jara (Nov 13 2009 - 1:16am)
  • ottawaobserver wrote:Give By: Wilf Day (Nov 13 2009 - 12:12am)
  • V.Jara, your points #1 and By: ottawaobserver (Nov 12 2009 - 6:27pm)
  • Most people haven't tried to By: V. Jara (Nov 12 2009 - 6:16pm)
  • The NDP vote in Hochelaga By: Stockholm (Nov 12 2009 - 4:19pm)
  • ottawaobserver wrote: I By: Debater (Nov 12 2009 - 3:39pm)
  •  interesting reading OO, By: remind (Nov 12 2009 - 1:54pm)
  • The answer to the thread By: madmax (Nov 12 2009 - 1:08pm)
  • KenS wrote: And the Liberals By: bekayne (Nov 12 2009 - 12:27pm)
  • Who represents anglophone By: autoworker (Nov 12 2009 - 11:02am)
  • Debater wrote: Ken Burch By: ottawaobserver (Nov 12 2009 - 8:43am)
  • Debater wrote:And the By: KenS (Nov 12 2009 - 8:07am)
  • adma wrote:...to say "even By: KenS (Nov 12 2009 - 7:39am)
  • Considering that Outremont By: adma (Nov 12 2009 - 7:22am)
  • Ken Burch wrote: Then again, By: Debater (Nov 12 2009 - 4:29am)
  • Then again, even fewer are By: Ken Burch (Nov 12 2009 - 2:29am)
  • Ken Burch wrote: What By: Debater (Nov 12 2009 - 1:29am)
  •  I wonder what the NDP plan By: NorthReport (Nov 12 2009 - 12:27am)
  • Ken, I don't know if that's By: ottawaobserver (Nov 11 2009 - 11:43pm)
  • Is the assumption that By: Ken Burch (Nov 11 2009 - 10:31pm)
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