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Swine Flu Investigation of Corruption

Noah_Scape
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   Ya, I know, this topic is as dead as the virus in the vaccine, but there are some inquiries and hearings going on in other parts of the world, asking questions about faking the seriousness of the Swine Flu 2010 in order to sell vaccines, and the collusion between the WHO, CDC, and vaccine makers.

   Really!! I know - it sounds so foreign to us here in North America, we don't hear a thing about that. In fact, the Americans are still running TV ads telling people to get their shots - the latest one I saw was about Jan 20th.

  Some of the people making accusations are WHO members, another is the President of Belarus [whatever THATS worth, lol]. These are not flippant accusations, and there is good evidence to support their claims.

  My own sister got the shot and she was angry at me for not getting one "because I would be a threat to everybody else" - so its people like me who are spreading this killer bug! So the consequences are not all health related, there is this awkward tension between what I would call "the enlightened and the sheeple" [sorry for the offensive sounding tone there].

 There is also the "never cry wolf" issue - are the health authorities losing their credibility, and therefore their ability to inform the public of actual health threats if they should arise in the future.

----------Quotes:

"the Council of Europe launched an investigation into whether the World Health Organization (WHO) "faked" the swine flu pandemic to boost profits for vaccine manufacturers."


The PACE hearing is the latest in a series of investigations into the WHO's propriety, which also includes a 2009 Danish Parliamentary inspection of links between WHO expert, Albert Osterhaus, and makers of the swine flu drugs. Russian lawmaker Igor Barinov has also started an inquiry into the WHO's ties to H1N1 drug makers

"The WHO changed the definition of "pandemic" last April [2009] ; some say the definition change was designed to boost vaccine sales"

"in mid-2009, the CDC decided laboratory tests to confirm whether patients had H1N1 were no longer necessary"
[could that be because] "very few flu cases could truly be attributed to H1N1." ?

 

Alyaksandr Lukashenka, president of the eastern European country Belarus, who spoke on Radio Free Europe last December: "I know very well what is going on in this super-corrupt, gangster circle of medicine producers. "



the #s:
Last year the WHO predicted that H1N1 could infect two billion and claim hundreds of thousands of lives, while President Obama's science advisers said the outbreak could infect up to 120 million Americans and kill 90,000.

But in the end, H1N1 turned out to be one of the milder flu strains on record. The type-A influenza is confirmed to have taken around 14,000 lives worldwide, according to WHO numbers from January 22. The CDC said in December confirmed US deaths had reached 4,000, although it recently estimated that due to underreporting, the true death toll could be as high as 16,500


Money:
governments poured tens of billions of dollars into vaccines. The US alone has spent $2 billion on the drugs and has allocated $7.5 billion in supplemental spending for H1N1 preparedness.

the global H1N1 vaccine market will be worth over $7 billion a year by 2011.

In 2002, just ten drug companies in the Fortune 500 made more profits than all the other 490 companies put together, according to Angell. Pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline and Merck alone made $287 billion in 2007

 

 

------------------------------Links:

The quotes are mostly from here:

http://www.truthout.org/swine-flu-didnt-fly56431

 

An earlier article:

http://tinyurl.com/y97d5kq

 

 

 

 

 


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ennir
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Joined: Feb 8 2009

Thanks for the post and links.

The last stats showed that approximately 38 % of Manitobans were vaccinated which means that I am in the good company of 62 % of Manitobans who chose not to.  I find that interesting given the medias almost constant blasting about it and in fact they are still advertising shots and emphasizing that babies should have two of them. 

It seems there is something to be said for our rather conservative ways.  lol


jas
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Sineed
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Joined: Dec 4 2005

Posting at a medical site by an emergency room physician:

Quote:
Whether you think it was bad or not, I think this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If we had we not "pulled the fire alarm" on H1N1 and there was a pandemic that would obviously be bad. Now that we did pull the alarm, we'll never know if the less-than-disastrous flu season was a result of public health measures or an indication that we were a bunch of Chicken Littles.


I know I'm largely preaching to the choir here, but I've been having this conversation with some non-med friends lately who have accused "us" of crying wolf, so I've got my soap box at the ready.

Some of the doctors think that H1N1 could return in a more virulent form, as was the pattern with the Spanish flu of 1919.  I don't think so, because in 1919 we didn't have vaccine.


Lard Tunderin Jeezus
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Joined: Aug 27 2001

Another previous thread: Pharma contract vs. Cdn. lives


lonewolfbunn
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Joined: Oct 21 2008

Noah,  I see your statement as very well balanced and as unbiased as could be.

 


lonewolfbunn
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Joined: Oct 21 2008

Sineed wrote:

Posting at a medical site by an emergency room physician:

Quote:
Whether you think it was bad or not, I think this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If we had we not "pulled the fire alarm" on H1N1 and there was a pandemic that would obviously be bad. Now that we did pull the alarm, we'll never know if the less-than-disastrous flu season was a result of public health measures or an indication that we were a bunch of Chicken Littles.


I know I'm largely preaching to the choir here, but I've been having this conversation with some non-med friends lately who have accused "us" of crying wolf, so I've got my soap box at the ready.

Some of the doctors think that H1N1 could return in a more virulent form, as was the pattern with the Spanish flu of 1919.  I don't think so, because in 1919 we didn't have vaccine.

I don't think vaccinations are bad - I just think that putting a questionable neurotoxin in those that are administered to the masses which cannot afford single dose injections is not right.


G. Muffin
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Joined: Sep 28 2008

I don't think vaccinations are bad, either.  I just choose not to get them.  I figure any self-respecting bug wouldn't want to live on me.


Lard Tunderin Jeezus
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Joined: Aug 27 2001

Controversial flu vaccine study finally published

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A set of controversial studies that suggested getting a previous seasonal flu shot doubled a person's risk of catching pandemic H1N1 last spring has finally been published - though the mystery of whether the finding is real remains.

Provinces and territories scrambled to rethink their flu shot programs last fall when word of the then-unpublished findings spread like wildfire through Canadian research and public health communities. Most decided to delay their seasonal flu vaccine programs until distribution of pandemic vaccine was completed.

 


remind
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Joined: Jun 25 2004

So, in reality the Canadian data, remains accurate in Canada, for Canadians, but is supposedly not observed elsewhere in the world.


Cueball
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Joined: Dec 23 2003

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Dr. Ed Belongia, director of the epidemiology research centre at the Marshfield Clinic Research Institute, in Marshfield, Wis., also has data. He's looked at it - and it does not corroborate the Canadian findings.

[SNIP]

Still, he praised the Canadian work, saying the researchers evidently tried hard to find flaws in their studies that might have led to inaccurate results.

"Having read the actual paper as opposed to just hearing rumours about it, I'm impressed with the level of scrutiny they gave their data in terms of looking for potential bias and confounding. So in that sense I can't easily dismiss it," he said.

But the fact it hasn't been seen elsewhere still troubles Belongia. "I think it still falls under the rubric 'the Canadian problem' - even though we don't know what that means yet."

 


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