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PTSD affected many returning WWII vets but its nice that some posters families missed that experience. My favourite Uncle drank himself to death after serving in italy on the front lines for months. He was not alone. My grandfather came back from the Great War with PTSD or shellshocked and died within a decade. None of the women from his generation will even mention his name so there is a cloud over what he actually did to them when he returned.
My parents didn't talk about those broken colleagues and my Mom like others refused to have a bunch of drunk SOB's in her house either but nobody thought to give them mental health services to overcome the deep psychological wounds fighting a war caused in many.
My uncle, who barely if ever talked (if you got 10 words out of him in a row, you should have gotten a medal) came back from Dunkirk as a dispatch rider. He came home and my mother and her parents and siblings sat around him as he would not stop talking, even when eating or drinking he kept babbling about what he saw (Ive heard it, it was not nice). There came a knock on the door and there were 2 MPs there, telling them they were there to take my uncle to a rest camp in Scotland. They said all the dispatch riders were going and he was there for 3 months before returning to the war (with the Desert Rats in Africa)
My mother joined the RAF and was a extremely independant woman who took no shit from anyone. Woe betid any man from the legion that made a demeaning remark. He never did so again. She had a better war record than did my father
Considering the Taliban's views on woman as humans they would swiftly promote the Colonel to General.
Do you mean WW2 Era wartime?
If so I would disagree. Today the lines between "eliete officer corps" and working-class are closer than ever. More and more you see working class "grunts" with college and University degrees either joining the CF as a non-commisioned member or getting their degree through one of the education programs.
The cultrual difference is closer too. It's much more common for "the troops" to rub shoulders with their officer counter parts outside of the work place today. Grunts are much more worldly than they were 50 years ago [Though they still often have fairly narrow "world experience"].
Just my 2 cents.
That was very moving to read, kropotkin. One of my uncles died in WWI, smothered in the mud at Passchendaele. I've always thought that was why my father joined up instantly in 1939, although by then he was old enough that he could have ducked that.
It's worth remembering that many many of the returning WWI vets had been politically radicalized. They had seen real hell, and yet they came back to a Canada that hadn't reformed much at all. The Winnipeg General Strike was probably the most dramatic expression of that anger, the On-to-Ottawa Trek as well, but the anger seethed away, maybe not so much here as in, eg, Germany, but it was class anger.
Well, I'm interested to read that, and it gives me hope. I feel a lot for the kids who just wanted a job and an education, y'know? If you've read the stories of the U.S. resisters who came here hoping for sanctuary, you'll know those were the most powerful motives for so many in that much more troubled army.
To get back to the topic, though: I still know, as some wrote above, that every invading army of any kind has always raped and killed -- not all soldiers, but a lot of them, maybe a lot of them otherwise nice guys. Women live with that thought of what war can do. And I woke up early this morning thinking of Williams sneaking into my place when I was sleeping, and I just had to get up and turn on all the lights. Women live with that thought too. A lot of women around Belleville will be shuddering for some time to come.
Which faction of the Taliban do you mean and from what region of the area?
Are you talking about individual Taliban fighters or do you have access to the philosophical and religious believes that are considered dogma by the Taliban leadership? This is the propaganda that justifies our troops occupation of this foreign country and it feeds the culture of violence.
The idea that anyone including someone fighting in the Taliban would be agreement with what this serial rapist and murderer did is disgusting.
Most resistance movements have had very strict rules of engagement that if breached resulted in immediate execution by your former comrades in arms so he would be likely be dealt with swiftly.
SOB"s = sons of bitches
Just sayin.......
Good catch remind.
Anything substantive remind or just drive by shootings. I used her language in the context of the anecdote.
I am so sorry I don't like everything the NDP does.
Meh, should be cool to disacknowledge acronyms like that.
I agree. Although he was quoting his mother. But still, yeah. I also don't think it's a terrible thing to acknowledge that "SOB" is a sexist term in the feminism forum.
Personally, I think stating that SOB's is unacceptable here in the feminist forum is substantive. Especially in a thread about women being murdered and raped by a man who most likely objectifies women, and obviously disregards them, to the max.
But then of course I am a poor feminist, as it seems only men know what feminism should be about, so perhaps you are correct kropotkin...it is acceptable, as you just wanted to use it in contextual value.
:huge rolleyes:
Indeed language matters and I actually didn't think about it at the time. I apologize.
Don't forget the Northern Alliance warlords (the majority of MPs in the Karzai government belong to this group) and the Karzai government itself that we are propping up, are as mysogynistic as the "Taliban" - if not worse.
Maysie or old goat, hopefully you can close this thread shortly?
Would about now do?