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To who? The settlers on our stolen land? I should apologize to them? Not likely. Settlers come to the olympics on stolen land and then get hurt because other settlers designed the track unsafely! If everybody had respected the native land claims none of this would have happened. Can't you see that?! That's why people get upset when settlers build houses in the occupied territories of palestine. Why don't you get upset the same way when it happens in canada?! Oh right cause we're just natives I forgot!!!
(sigh)
Look. I'm not going to tell you how pissed off you should or shouldn't be over the Olympics, land claims, or what have you. Lord knows, I'm just a "settler", so I want to be very, very clear - I am not in any way commenting on any of those issues.
What I'm saying, and what I sincerely hope you get called on, is that despite your anger over land claims and native issues, saying that Nodar Kumaritashvili's death is any kind of divine retribution on the part of a Creator over land claims issues was a dickheaded thing to say, however valid your points may otherwise be. And the proper thing to do, when one says something that makes one look like a complete asshole, is to apologize.
So, ball's in your court. Apologize, or don't. You really don't come across looking like a great human being if you don't, but that's just one guy's opinion.
Land claims, or what have you, says it all.
E. Tam, it's not a good way to get a point across but in no way will I back down, the responses were more reprehensible. E. Tam., could you try to dial it back? Just asking nicely.
Steve Biko once wrote that white people kick black people and then tell them how they should react to being kicked. The extreme racism by the usual racists in this thread is a great example of that.
Just because you find E.T's remarks assholish does not give you the right to blab the racist shit that is just waiting for an excuse to come out.
Also, Harriet Nahanee was the fist death of this Olympics. I'm not suprised that the angry lynch mob trying to make this native pay for his bad words were nowhere to be found for those RIPs.
If E. Tamaran had been spewing that over Harriet Nahanee, then I'd call him an asshole for that, too.
I'm not commenting on the politics. All I'm saying is that what E. Tamaran said is prime grade insensitive assholery, and that'd stand no matter who he was, or who he was talking about.
You need some sensitivity training rabelais.
Moderators!! Another racist post!!! Making light of the loss and theft of traditional territories. Yarg and Rabelais are making racist comments about FNs!!
Tamaran says that the Georgian luger died because he trespassed on stolen land and that he basically deserved it, and I'm the one that needs sensitivity training. All-right-y then.
Too funny.
Despite your anger over land claims........
I don't see it. Imagine you have a really nice piece of land. And someone takes it away from you and throws the mother of all parties on it. Kicks your family out, tears up the place, leaves garbage laying about, destroys the furniture...
Then in mid party, they trip over their own dicks and break a leg. Maybe I would feel that it might have been what was coming to them.
Just saying.
Why are you on babble? Don't you get it?
OLYMPICS ON STOLEN LAND.
Moderators!! More hate.
The luger didn't steal it. I'd get the hubris if something happend to a VANOC organizer, perhaps - wouldn't agree with it, but get it - but why the perverse schadenfreude over a Georgian luger who has nothing to do with Canadian - First Nation politics?
And assholes can have legitimate views on the politics of the Olympics, or on the land question, but that doesn't mean they aren't assholes. Tamaran's comments pretty much speak for themselves on that front.
Why stop at the olympics? What about anyone murdered on stolen land. Women, blacks asians? Had it coming too?
Please fix the post Polly B, I believe your quotes are misquoted.
Seriously, dial it back, I've flagged most of these posts. Are you doing that or just engaging in more publiic flogging.
The sad fate of the luger is all about physics, and bad design. Now I'll consume some tobacco.
E.Tamaran, First Nations treaties, hundreds of them, have been dishonoured by our government.
Those who campaign for the rights of people done wrong are not haters, and your belief that they are is disturbing.
LOL
It's like the world is out to get you. UNACCEPTABLE!
Sorry E.Taraman I just can't bring myself to feel sorry for you considering the types of comments you're known for. You're acting like a baby. You made a very ugly comment which is below you because you are better than that but insead of owning up to it you turn it around and try to play the victim.
Don't we have enough people in this world blaming deaths of others on some silly sort of divine retribution? Yes yes we do.
Learn to quote.
E.Tamaran's comment reminds me of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson musing that civil liberties groups, feminists, pagans, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters were partially responsible for the 9/11 attacks -- because they had made the Lord Gawd Almighty angry with America.
Glad to hear you have someone to cheer on the left Sven.
They absolutely are, sorry. Don't know how to fix though, as I have quote and flag as offensive as options.....
(edited to say - okay I figured it out. technology is apparently beyond me tonight so will make this my last post....)
edited again to say almost my last post...
Exactly, THAT'S what we don't need at Rabble.
Nothing new here.
I hear you. Babble software can be tricky. It's up at #40, I'm sure you'll likely find you can edit that one but I wouldn't likely do the same after either. Didn't want you misquoted.
More misery, at least it's a long weekend for me.
Thanks RP.
Cheers!
Why shouldn't an olympic athlete be expected to know at least the recent history and the politics of the host country?
If he doesn't, does he deserve to die?
An unfortunate accident indeed and an ominous warning.