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Racism, Islamophobia, Imperialism at home and abroad

NDPP
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Suaad Hagi Mohamud's Detention in Kenya

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/08/12/f-haji-mohamud-timeline.html#so...

It's All in the Name

http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/2009/08/its-all-in-name.html

"you can consider yourself lucky not to carry a Muslim name.."

Mark Steyn Strikes Back for Islamophobia

http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1817-...

 


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Frustrated Mess
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That Chris Floyd article was hilarious. And, yet. Macleans is still not embarrassed at giving Steyn space. A rag for the neo-racists I suppose.


Maysie
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Nothing "neo" about them, FM, ya know?


Frustrated Mess
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Well, I think there is. There are the traditional racists, the white supremacists and skin heads, and then there are the neo-racists, the Zionists, the Christian Right, and MSM in the guise of fighting "terrists". But I suppose it all flows from the same fountain, I guess you're right.


johnpauljones
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I gave up reading macleans years ago.

there is racism, islamophobia, and anti-semtisim in Canada. it exists today, it existed in days past and it will unfort exist in the days of the future.

but i do question the absolutes in FM's statement. all zionists are racist all msm are raicst. 

 

I thought we were not allowed to paint an enitire group with one brush stroke so to speak.


Maysie
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Frustrated Mess wrote:

Well, I think there is. There are the traditional racists, the white supremacists and skin heads, and then there are the neo-racists, the Zionists, the Christian Right, and MSM in the guise of fighting "terrists". But I suppose it all flows from the same fountain, I guess you're right.


johnpauljones wrote:
but i do question the absolutes in FM's statement. all zionists are racist all msm are raicst.

I thought we were not allowed to paint an enitire group with one brush stroke so to speak.

Rather than have drift I've started a new thread here

 


Frustrated Mess
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"but i do question the absolutes in FM's statement. all zionists are racist all msm are raicst."

 

Saying the MSM is racist does not mean that everyone in the MSM is racist. The institution is racist. I think there is a lot of evidence to support that.

As for Zionism, can someone be a white supremaicist without being racist? Because Zionism is an ideological framework for an ethnic superiority and we may witness it in action every day in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, in Israeli-Arab villages, racist Israeli laws and policies, and, of course, the Gaza Ghetto.


Maysie
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Hey FM and jpj. Can the discussion of zionism: group versus membership, terminology, etc be taken to a new thread? Thanks.


Frustrated Mess
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I didn't want to start a new thread, Maysie, and I wanted to respect your new thread. I don't think it's worth a new thread. But at the same time I would argue it is impossible to separate Zionism from "Racism, Islamophobia, Imperialism at home and abroad".

Nevertheless, consider it dropped.


Frmrsldr
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Iggy has criticized the Harper administration over the handling of this case. We can criticize Iggy's sincerity. Why has Jack Layton been silent on this issue. Is the fact that the federal NPD had a convention at the time sufficient reason not to make a statement to the media on this issue?


NDPP
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World Can't Be Changed Without Fighting Western Propaganda

http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/21731

"there are millions of victims of western geopolitical interests rotting or already buried in Congo (DRC) and elswhere in Sub-Saharan Africa, in West Papua, the Middle East and elsewhere. Our human rights record (if we consider all human beings "human" and accept that violating human rights in London, New York, or Melbourne) is as deplorable as violating human rights in London, New York, or Melbourne) is so horrid - presently as in the past - that it is unimaginable that our citizens still could believe that our countries have some moral leverage and should be allowed to arbitrate and exercise moral judgement.."


Frustrated Mess
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Excellent article.


Brian White
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I think the poor lady was treated horribly just because she was black.  She has a 12 year old here all that time and no politician bothered to contact him and get the mom id'ed by him? Thats just burocracy gone crazy.

I was just thinking about the dna test bullshit that she had to go through when perhaps 50 people of good standing could have been telephoned in canada to talk to her and to  vouch for her. So if you are black and stranded in a foreign country you got to do a dna test to get home.  Absolutely stupid.  I didnt have to do a dna test to become a citizen. And to get a pasport, I only needed a couple of people with pasports to say they knew me.

I do not get the rest of the thread.  This is canada and this is how it is, seems to be the whine.

 Iggie is not sincere and layton is ignoring it?   (Sorry folks, thats politicing and is that a sincere thing to do?)

 Who cares about the 2 boys?  WE should have been asking questions for the 3 months. 

I glanced over it in the newspapers. Basically it said that someone with big lips was impersonating a canadian.  Well, fuck, thats a missing persons investigation STRAIGHT away.   

Did you or I or any other looky lous do anything or ask any questions? Or say "if lady with  big lips is impersonating the canadian, where is the canadian?"

In the articles I read prior to the lady's release,  there was no mention of the 12 year old. 

Well, thats shitty journalism, isnt it?  (Perhaps it was mentioned in other articles)

canada treated this woman like total shit.  You should be angry and ashamed and you should do something real.

Direct your anger towards those in charge, not towards the pretenders.

It seems to me that if we fight this case, it will indirectly improve things for a whole lot of people.


Frmrsldr
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Who are the ones "in charge"? Who are the "pretenders"? The whole story is rife with ignorance (not knowing) and apathy (not caring) right from the PEEMO (Prime Minister's Office), the Foreign Office, the office of Homeland Security (or whatever the hell it's called in Canada - same bullshit) and the media. In any given society (Canadian included) only a minority (like rabblers) make the effort to inform themselves about what is going on in the world around them. The rest of society (the majority) don't bother to make the effort. What they know is what the government and the sold out corporate owned media want them to know. So if the government and the media are ignorant and apathetic, is it any wonder that the great "intellectually unwashed" masses are ignorant and apathetic....?


Brian White
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Ok lets face it, the media told us about this. So it is not their fault.  We shoud have enquired a little, and we didn't.  We have the power of critical thinking and writing letters to the editor and to the lady's son if we knew she had a son and we didnt do it. Earlier people whined about laytons and iggies inaction. Well, what about us? none of us did f all to find out more and fix the probem. We are a nation of whiners and bame passers.  Lots of times, if we bothered to question the whole situation.  Like, she is a citizen of canada, so surely friends, relativves, employers live here.

I mean, imagine this.  Your buddy phoning from mexico.  "yeah  fuck man, I got stung by a bee on the lips and they took away my ffing pasport cos my lips are too big and the plane leaves today. Fucking bees"

What happened to the lady is incredibly crazy and it should be fixed. We can learn from it too and be a bit proactive. The bucks stop everywhere.

Wringing the hands after the event and whining is a copout

Frmrsldr wrote:

Who are the ones "in charge"? Who are the "pretenders"? The whole story is rife with ignorance (not knowing) and apathy (not caring) right from the PEEMO (Prime Minister's Office), the Foreign Office, the office of Homeland Security (or whatever the hell it's called in Canada - same bullshit) and the media. In any given society (Canadian included) only a minority (like rabblers) make the effort to inform themselves about what is going on in the world around them. The rest of society (the majority) don't bother to make the effort. What they know is what the government and the sold out corporate owned media want them to know. So if the government and the media are ignorant and apathetic, is it any wonder that the great "intellectually unwashed" masses are ignorant and apathetic....?


NDPP
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Frustrated Mess wrote:

Excellent article.

NDPP

Scroll down to fascinating additional reflections on the article by Keith Harmon Snow in 'comments'

Consuming Propaganda, Creating Mental Illness

http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/21731

"Independent journalism is almost dead and the left has helped kill it and helps kill it more everyday.."

 

 

 


mahmoud
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http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/09/11/barbara-kay-eight-years-after-9-11-where-s-the-islamophobia.aspx

 

great article, very true as me or my family has never been attacked or had any hate against us, i actually think people have been nicer after 9/11 as they know more about us

 


rubble
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mahmoud wrote:

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/09/11/barbara-kay-eight-years-after-9-11-where-s-the-islamophobia.aspx

great article, very true as me or my family has never been attacked or had any hate against us, i actually think people have been nicer after 9/11 as they know more about us

I wouldn't be so complacent. If you look like you might be Muslim, chances are people who have negative opinions will refrain from saying anything directly to you. That is the reality of racism, at times it can be all around you and you don't even know it.


Fidel
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USSA's  Financial-Military Imperialism Explained (and how it may end)

Where the military is, prices are high. - old Chinese proverb


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