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quote:Originally posted by Stephen Gordon: Fair enough, but I thought the point was that if you wore stuff from Wal-mart, the people you passed on the street would conclude that you were poor.
Yeah, maybe it was. I don't know the answer to that. But I suspect it might depend on who "the people" are. I'm sure there are people who can spot "cheap clothes", even if they have no holes, fit, and are more or less fashionable, but I have no idea how common this is.
ETA: I just read Michelle's comment (immediately below). I think that's probably true.
I don't know. I mean, I wear plus-sized clothing. There's a huge difference in quality and fit between Walmart/Zellers plus-sized clothing, and the stuff you get at more expensive places like Pennington's or Addition-Elle (god I hate that name). Like, when it comes to pants and dress shirts and "business casual" type stuff.
You can find some half-decent casual-wear stuff there that looks as good as what you'd get in more expensive places, but you have to be careful because often the stuff shrinks or stretches in strange ways and gets out of shape because it's made so poorly.
Anyhow...I'm not much of a fashionista, but there IS a difference in cut when it comes to different places that sells clothing, and Walmart and Zellers is bottom-of-the-barrel in that regard. And since cut is everything when it comes to how clothes look on people, I think that even if you can't consciously say, "I think she got that at Walmart because it bags right there, and sags over there," the overall impression you get at a glance with a lot of the clothes you get there is that the person looks dumpy because the clothes look like they're shapeless.
Recall upthread, in May 2008, where Heather said we're going to see the end of cheap goods because oil will be hitting $200/barrel within 2 years.
As of today, Feb. 24, 2010, it's $ 79.03.
I don't think Heather was off-base. But it's going to take a lot longer.
What will be the implications for our society when Wal-Mart, Zellars, etc can no longer sell the cheap crap from China? Do we think these stores will still exist, and sell stuff at higher prices? There's the convenience factor, of being able to get everything in one place, from cat litter to a shower curtain to a new snowsuit for a toddler all under one roof, especially if you're dragging small children around with you. But are we going to see these big stores fail when there's no more cheap crap to peddle?
I'd like to see Heather write a reprise of her original article, maybe with more of the cultural critique. I suspect that now we (as a culture) have abandoned small stores for big multi-service stores, there's no turning back. But I would like to see what Heather thinks.
I'd like Heather to do an update as well. WalMart isn't dumb, they wouldn't be opening all those new superstores in Canada this year if they thought the future would be bleak for them, would they?
That's true to a certain extent, BB, though I imagine large corporations do their decision-making much like politicians: with an eye towards short-term gain.
If oil goes up to $ 200/barrel in, say, 20-30 years, there's lots of money to be made in the meantime. Then the top people can close up shop, lay off all their low-wage workers, and retire in the Cayman islands.
Yeah, maybe it was. I don't know the answer to that. But I suspect it might depend on who "the people" are. I'm sure there are people who can spot "cheap clothes", even if they have no holes, fit, and are more or less fashionable, but I have no idea how common this is.
ETA: I just read Michelle's comment (immediately below). I think that's probably true.
[ 06 May 2008: Message edited by: RosaL ]
You can find some half-decent casual-wear stuff there that looks as good as what you'd get in more expensive places, but you have to be careful because often the stuff shrinks or stretches in strange ways and gets out of shape because it's made so poorly.
Anyhow...I'm not much of a fashionista, but there IS a difference in cut when it comes to different places that sells clothing, and Walmart and Zellers is bottom-of-the-barrel in that regard. And since cut is everything when it comes to how clothes look on people, I think that even if you can't consciously say, "I think she got that at Walmart because it bags right there, and sags over there," the overall impression you get at a glance with a lot of the clothes you get there is that the person looks dumpy because the clothes look like they're shapeless.
[ 06 May 2008: Message edited by: Michelle ]
Can't find another open thread on WalMart, so will put this here:
Walmart Canada to open 35 to 40 supercentres in 2010
gah..........
Recall upthread, in May 2008, where Heather said we're going to see the end of cheap goods because oil will be hitting $200/barrel within 2 years.
As of today, Feb. 24, 2010, it's $ 79.03.
I don't think Heather was off-base. But it's going to take a lot longer.
What will be the implications for our society when Wal-Mart, Zellars, etc can no longer sell the cheap crap from China? Do we think these stores will still exist, and sell stuff at higher prices? There's the convenience factor, of being able to get everything in one place, from cat litter to a shower curtain to a new snowsuit for a toddler all under one roof, especially if you're dragging small children around with you. But are we going to see these big stores fail when there's no more cheap crap to peddle?
I'd like to see Heather write a reprise of her original article, maybe with more of the cultural critique. I suspect that now we (as a culture) have abandoned small stores for big multi-service stores, there's no turning back. But I would like to see what Heather thinks.
I'd like Heather to do an update as well. WalMart isn't dumb, they wouldn't be opening all those new superstores in Canada this year if they thought the future would be bleak for them, would they?
That's true to a certain extent, BB, though I imagine large corporations do their decision-making much like politicians: with an eye towards short-term gain.
If oil goes up to $ 200/barrel in, say, 20-30 years, there's lots of money to be made in the meantime. Then the top people can close up shop, lay off all their low-wage workers, and retire in the Cayman islands.