babble is rabble.ca's discussion board but it's much more than that: it's an online community for folks who just won't shut up. It's a place to tell each other — and the world — what's up with our work and campaigns.
TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
February 23, 2010 - 8:49am
We are a non partisan grassroots movement of hard working Nova Scotians looking to make a difference by opposing any tax increase by the current government and working towards keeping more of our hard earned dollars.
Join Us.
http://www.taxedenoughns.com/
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=304033314710
I bet you are.
Take an economics class and stop repeating what Steve Harper tells you.
sheesh.
what about your hard earned dollars the bankers reward themselves freely with?
Damn societies create wealth,too. Time to abolish them.
What do you mean? TENS is a response to the fiscal crisis here in Nova Scotia.
...is this in any way, shape or form connect with the TEA party movement in the US?
it seems to have a lot of similar overtones.
I was gonna say.
But as usual, His CyberHoliness beat me to it.
And funny how this group just HAPPENS to appear when Nova Scotia elects an NDP government.
There were NEVER fiscal problems with the Liberals or Tories governed Nova Sootia. And NOTHING they did has anything at all to do with the present situation.
As Bill Cosby would put it....
"Riiiiiigggghhhhhttttttttttt....."
Demand to see Rodney McDonald's REAL Kenyan birth certificate!
You forgot to say that Darrell Hussein Dexter was educated in Indonesian Madrassas!
No we are not associatd with the US Tea Parties. This is a spontaneous grassroots movement against the 2% HST hike proposed by the current government (along with PEI NS already has the highest sales tax in the country).
Also we are not anti-NDP or any other party. In fact the current fiscal crisis came about under the previous PC government, however all three parties had their hands in creating the problem.
How so?
In my opinion, taxevaders such as yourself inevitably ignore the real mastermind behind the HST: Stephen Harper.
You do this because otherwise this man is a taxe murderer, and a hero to your neo-fascist movement. But even he recognizes that governments require revenue, so he expands the most unfair and regressive taxation he can find.
When politicians or people like yourself present government spending like it's the family credity card they are not telling the truth. When governments talk about "tightening the belt" or other such cliches they are talking about program cuts. Program cuts only effect the people who need the (i.e. not the politicians or people like you) and they force people to pay for services, etc. out of pocket. That means that when a government talks about "shoring up spending" or "strategic debt reduction" what they really mean is that they are going to reduce the amount of government debt by transfering it to personal debt. Credit card companies, banks and payday loan companies do well, people like you can buy a new truck, kitchen, boat or holiday cause you don''t have to pay your fair share of taxes, and the rest of us get more debt and poverty.
Im indifferent about this, 2% won't matter a lot to me, however maybe some of you could get down off of your hobby horses and consider that this 2% at least here in Ontarion will also be applied to essentials such as home utility bills, that would seem to affect everyone and those who can least afford it more so. Exceptions should have been made for essentials.
There should be no sales tax on anything. Income taxes should be progressive. I think that the CCPA published a paper a while ago showing that poor Canadians pay more tax than rich Canadians as expressed as a percentage of income.
We already have HST, so it already applies to everything. But there is already an exception for home heating.
So that the more you earn, the more you pay?
Done.
Le T, how would you respond to the fiscal crisis in Nova Scotia? Continue to borrow? Would you continue to grow program spending at twice the rate of growth? We already pay more interest on debt that we do for Community Services (social benefits to the disadvantaged).
Not quite that simple.
CCPA
eta: replying to Snert
Sales taxes punish the poor and pensioners far more than the rich.
I wish the article would have told us exactly how this change occurred. A drop in the top marginal tax rate? And are they calculating effective tax rate based on taxable income? Or are they using "economic income" instead?
And here's the first post from this thread:
http://rabble.ca/babble/national-news/rich-pay-less-taxes-poor
Unfortunately, it seems the links aren't working anymore.
Get rich people to pay taxes. Tax coporations like President's Choice, Sobey's, Walmart, Home Depot and others that are trying to destroy the co-ops in many parts of the province.
The debt belongs to the rich people who have not been paying taxes for a long time. There has been a rich owning class in Nova Scotia for a hundred years that has sucked wealth out of the province, destroyed the fisheries and caused most of the poverty in the province. Why would you want the people who have the least shoulder the debt caused by rich people not paying taxes and stealing wealth?
I am not necessarily disagreeing with you Le T. But do you have figures showing how much do the 'rich' pay now? And what tax rate would be needed to cover our projected deficit?
Event update. Thursday 25th.
Prior to going to Mr. Steele's consultation from 7-9 in Upper Tantallon, we are meeting at the Tim Horton's at 6pm (Hammonds Plains & 103). All are welcome.
More of a double-double party than a tea party, eh?
You wish to nitpick rather than discuss the facts as they apply to this topic, but you're too lazy to look up the report for yourself.
Par for the course.
A pointless driveby insult from the resident grumbler.
Par for the course.
Are you paying attention to me in order to make Sven jealous?
Tax increases hurt EVERYBODY, espeically consumption taxes. I'm in Nova Scotia and I know that a tax hike on the HST will hit the working class hard.
Uhm, so taxes were just fine before the NDP was elected? Or you just discovered they're too high this past week? Bunch of losers on the margins ...