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I want my post back, I made a lot of commentary to several people in this thread, and now I have lou erasing it and replying to me as me....
Soooooooo.......what is with the USA Finland game being over after the first period?
We going to start hearing from others, and the IOC that they want to get rid of men's hockey too, because it is sooooooooo disproportional and thus not viewing interesting?
You know seriously the sexist crap of the IOC and the CTV is beyond belief........ meanwhile Sir Jon is applauded and appearing on Oprah FFS.
What is with her and her having all the male gold medalists on anyway?
And yes bookish, all us women are worried about is how pleasant our mouths taste so men will want to kiss us.....what a freakin sexist way to frame the point you do not feel it is an issue.
and Lou since when are spelling grammer flames allowed here? Something new in my time here I see.
Interesting though, Al'Q had to edit his own post for spelling/grammer errors in order to do so...... :rolleyes:
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Okay I paged back in the window I still had open on this thread and there was my initial post, so here it is again...
And Lou, it is one of those rules that are not formally listed, and AL'Q has been warned over and over and over again about doing this to people.
Sorry remind,
I was in a hurry, and hit the button to 'edit' instead of quote.
Do you want me to edit it back?
And yes bookish, all us women are worried about is how pleasant our mouths taste so men will want to kiss us.....what a freakin sexist way to frame the point you do not feel it is an issue.
Uh remind I would have said exactly the same thing if it was men. Exactly, exactly, exactly- that's not sexist just a realization that a mix of cigars, beer and champagne is not exactly a yummy combination.Nope I cleared it all up, and got my post back....but thank you for the offer.
Bookish respectfully no, I do not believe you would have, as you would not even internally have framed such a thought of kissing men, or not kissing them, who have been drinking beer and champagne and smoking cigars to celebrate their win.
let's be honest here eh!
I don't recall if I did that here, although I do it all the time; but so what? That's why they call it "editing." I've gone over posts five or six times to make changes because I either see errors or I don't like the way posts look or sound.
Well you clearly don't know me because I make cracks along those lines frequently. In fact all I was really doing was re-using a line I used a couple of weeks ago after some friends were eating really heavy duty sausage and drinking home brew.
pfft, do not think it is a top of mind response for you, but hey fair enough, you want to hold that "comfort with your sexuality" position in order to say you were not being sexist, tis okay, but my estimation of your character sunk a fair degree regardless.
we were speaking of sexism about the IOC and medias reaction to this, and others here too, and yet you feel/ felt A okay to respond in a manner that would be considered to be just the same as those sexist others, on an anonymous board, where the vast majority of people do not know you, and thus would take it like I did.
BA I know you always like to be correct and never taken to task, but on this you just shoulda backed down, and admitted it was not appropriate commentary on your part when taken in context with indicating how sexist people are being about this.
Whatever, I went back and added the context of that comment. It is in fact something I say all the time about the smelly stuff people put in their mouths.
But keep reaching about my character flaws if it makes you feel better, but see I know me and you don't.
It does not matter BA, if I "know" you or not.....I know what your comment said contextually... and indicated......and it is not about character flaws it is about continued sexism here at rabble.
Realized or not by supposedly progressive men.
And apparently THEY thought it was a "yummy combination".
Your comment had absolutely nadda to do with their actions and it did nothing for the conversation, as a "girl's hockey dad", it just made another sexist opinion by a man in this thread.
I have consulted with Guru Oldgoat and I'm told that there is no strict rule or policy against spelling flames. I assume the same goes for punctuation. Although as he puts it "the culture of the community has evolved in a manner where spelling flames aren't really respected."
So sorry Remind, I think that means we have to give this round to the grammer nazis.
The grammar NAZIS started coming after me when I told him to stop using my sons life as an insult on this "progressive" board. He didn't apologize or think that maybe his actions are oppressive no he started flaming me instead. Now I am sure that the timing was merely coincidental and he really doesn't believe he has some right of privilege that allows him to insult my son to make a point but it sure doesn't fell like that.
I apologize to other posters for letting my temper post an adult response to childish games by someone who believes it is his entitlement to belittle people with intellectual handicaps.
I was belittling Sarah Palin, and left it at that.
Seig Heil!
And in other news...
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Olympics/2010Vancouver/Hockey/2010/02/26/13046...
Lou, respectfully it is a personal attack, as it is NOT on topic, and nothing more, and that is how it was treated by Michelle, particularily in respect to Al'Q's consistently doing it to people he wants to belittle.
ETA: Not that I want to compare you to Michelle nor any other moderator to her, but it used to be so predominent and lead to so many derailings of threads, and such bad feelings, correctly so I might add, as it is a personal attack, I would not like to see the ground gained, in not tolerating that kinda of passive aggressive personal attack lost.
Frankly, remind, you weren't even involved in the "attack" and if anyone is derailing the thread, it's you.
So, if those hockey-playing women had been pros, would they have been out there with root beer and carrot sticks instead of demon alcohol?
[I tried to Google a famous photo of the Montreal Canadiens sitting in their dressing-room drinking Coke (or was it Pepsi?) following a Stanley Cup win, but couldn't find it. I entered "'elmer lach' rocket richard 'stanley cup' soda" in a Google Images search but was shown little other than Bollywood images. How weird is that?]
frankly catchfire...............
Al-Q why do you think you have the right to use my son's life as a insult to belittle someone who is not intellectually challenged?
WTF did he do to you that gives you the entitlement to use him as an insult. Palin is not intellectually challenged and you are merely insulting my son and others who are. Why can't you get that? Why do you think you have the privilege to use my son as an insult? He is a human being not a insult to be hurled about by unthinking and unempathetic assholes like yourself. [I am using asshole in the sense that it is an orifice that shit comes out of]
actually, Al, a while ago i had the occasion to watch the old black and white broadcast of the 1965 Stanley Cup final, game 7 between Montreal and Chicago; quite an eye-opener, apart from seeing a galaxy of stars, from Bobby Hull to Jean Beliveau and good but fainter stars like Bobby Rousseau and Stan Mikita at work
many many cultural differences, of course, but I noticed above all that even when winning the Cup it was quieter at the Forum, less crazy in the crowd generally, solid applause but no one going insane; even the players were amazingly, uh, sober: Hull said after the game to the TV guy that Montreal won "because they were the better team";no sulking, no bravado after being beat
Then you glimpsed the Habs dressing room, and no one was drenched, no splashing of bubbly, no riot, it was much more gentlemanly than what has emeregd in later decades. I do not recall seeing more than a beer or two. Maybe they were hiding them for the TV cameras, which again would be a cultural difference from today !
Below is the English version of the credo that adorned the wall. There also was a French version. It was written by Canadian head coach Mike Babcock with help from a friend from their Saskatoon days, Rick Larsen. He runs the Chicago advertising firm Leo Burnett.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2010/03/02/sp-canada-hockey-leavenodoubt.html#ixzz0h2ZMQWm7
What caused the change? If you get a chance to see a rebroadcast of old Grey Cup games you'll see the same thing. I watched the 1966 Grey Cup last fall and was surprised how low-key to nonexistent post-touchdown celebrations were. Hughie Campbell would make an impossible touchdown catch, then camly hand the football to the referee.
Another obvious difference is how the fans have become part of the sports spectacle. Not that long ago the fans would go to watch othere play; now the fans are doing such things as wearing team sweaters, and appear to have become "part of the game" themselves.
My Dad used to tell the story of a time when I was a little kid, skating at an outdoor rink, and a big kid asked me, "Who are you, Frank Mahovlich?"
I replied, "No, I'm Bobby Rousseau."
Nobody could figure one where that came from.
I didn't really follow much about the Olympics except the hockey, and so didn't make any connexions here, but my mom emailed me a while back about some Olympian from Russell, Manitoba. She emailed again today, mentioning this Jon Montgomery guy - whose name I now recognise - and the beer-drinking non-controversy he created.
Cool. Someone from Russell in the Olympics.
On certain nights we could see the lights of Russell from our farm. Theoren Fleury's dad, Wally, drove the zamboni in the Russell rink. I once heard him give an unrequested pep talk to my brother's team in the dressing room during a game.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/amateur/story/2010/02/20/mb-montgomery-russell-gold-medal.html#ixzz0h3xI7JxK
Compromise: have two separate men's hockey tournaments, just like there are two ski jumping events (small hill and big hill). One can be loaded with professional players from the NHL, KHL, etc. and the other can't.
One can be watched and the other won't be.
Soviet, er, Russian Olympic chief out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/04/world/europe/04russia.html?ref=global-home
Russians brought home only three gold medals out of a total of 15 from Vancouver, a far cry from the glory days of the Soviet Union when Russians dominated international athletics. This week, Mr. Medvedev decried the state of Russian athletics and called on officials to "have the courage to submit their resignation."
Given the level of Kremlin anxiety just four years before Russia hosts the next Winter Games in Sochi, Mr. Tyagachyov's resignation was unsurprising.
A former head trainer of the Soviet ski team, Mr. Tyagachyov was named head of the Olympic Committee in 2001. During his tenure, the Russian government began allocating funds to revive the country's athletic infrastructure, which had been left to rot during the chaotic days following the Soviet Union's demise.
How? Women's hockey ran on a different schedule from men's hockey, so a third separate schedule wouldn't hurt viewability. Of course the gold medal amateur's game won't occur at the same time as the noon hour on the last day of the Games.
The quality would be too low, JR. Even worse than the usual NHL pap.
When I grew up we used to watch the Saskatoon Quakers. Senior non-professional hockey (of course supportive businesses provided jobs to the key players). Senior hockey disappeared long ago and few even noted its passing.
The only way this will happen is if NHL team owners don't allow their players the time off. The reason is because professional figure skaters are also now allowed to compete in the Olympics and figure skating is the highest-grossing winter event. NHL team owners have to toe the line, as we found out re Balsillie and Hamilton last year, and Bettman's NHL is already in deep disrepute for their blatent contempt of fans. Purely from a PR POV I don't think the NHL can afford to give up the moral gloss that Olympic hockey gives to its players, especially the superstars skating with targets on their backs under international rules.