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Pride Toronto to censor parade signs
March 11, 2010 - 8:31pm
It's transparently meant to avoid a repeat of last year's controversy over Queers Against Israeli Apartheid but the implications go far beyond that. Everyone's message will now need to be pre-approved with no clue as to what the criteria are.
I am wondering if corporate influence had any effect on the change in policy.
these ideas of having signs "approved" or having "designated protest zones" or all other restrictions on legit protest activity is ridiculous. protest is a human right that no one should have the ability to dictate the terms of.
I agree milo except that it isn't the protesters parade. Its run and organized by someone else so they get to say what goes on in it. Its not limiting a human right at all since the protesters are free to organize their own parade (as was done for the dyke parade).
Here's a Facebook group protesting this:
Don't sanitize Pride: Free expression must prevail
Are they going to use the same rationale for the Dyke Parade? "All breasts must be approved by Pride Toronto before going on display..."
What's that smell? Did someone let a bureaucrat loose? Better go round it up before it gets into trouble.
The next thing you know, they are going to try to make sure that things are "tasteful".
The upside to all this is the likelihood it will inspire intense competition to see who can come up with the most inappropriate sign, I have high hopes.
I am sooooo glad I don't live in Toronto.
that's true, a parade and a protest are different things. I guess i just look at pride as an inclusive, rather than exclusive event meant to celebrate the fact people can dare to admit their differences, and it sucks to see something like that picking sides on international politics for whatever reason.
does anyone know why there is bad blood between the the organizers and the anti-apartheid folks?
Don't know if its bad blood so much as cowardice or a desire to not rock the 'semi-tolerant' mainstream that supplies funding to this event
Pride Toronto has gone through a de-radicalization in the entire time I've been out as queer. Some of it was based on real logistics. You can't host close to a million spectators and not have a need for more resources, plus dealing with city by laws, bla bla bla. The inevitable result is that government and corporate sponsors make demands that must be adhered to. This is aka "selling out" of course.
So, gone are the days of jumping in to join the parade, which was called a "march" when I came out in the early 90s, by the way. And jumping back out whenever. Gone are the days of people just marching, now you can't march without being affiliated with a group, and registering beforehand. This new draconian measure will fail, will cause Pride great embarrassment which they richly deserve, and will hopefully make them re-evaluate their priorities if enough activists speak and act against it.
The shift was from making Pride less about the participants and making it more about the sponsors. Of course you need barricades down Yonge street for the Coor's giant flatbed truck float, and the MAC cosmetic float and the Absolut vodka float. When it was just people, with the occasional truck with speakers and music, like the Dyke March is now, there were fewer safety issues.
There might have been ways to grow as a festival and still retain the grassroots and political/activist origins, but sadly the leadership of Toronto's queer community has not been populated with activists in the past almost 20 years, despite regular attempts at takeovers by the highly classified queer undercover troublemakers' association. But that's ok. Queer West and AlternaQueer events is where most of us go in recent years.
I don't know any of the individuals concerned, but I'd be surprised if it could be reduced and individualized to "bad blood".
Is there "bad blood" between the anti-apartheid folks and Cheri DiNovo (or rather, was there before her ugly speech)?
Is there "bad blood" between the Toronto District School Board and the anti-apartheid folks?
What there is, is an enormous overwhelming, draconian campaign by the ruling classes in this country to suppress criticism of Israel. There's a huge message out there that if you associate yourself with attacks on Israel, you'll lose respectability, you'll lose funding, you'll be out of the "mainstream", you'll be marginalized, you'll be called "anti-semitic", if not worse. Anyone who forgets that victory comes through solidarity risks being affected by those threats.
Are there any grounds for a complaint to the ontario human rights commission?
For what?
Tingly spine advice - don't go there. You'll get a counter-complaint about hate speech. Talk about opening cans of worms. These are battles that must be fought in the thick of the movement.
... besides the fact that, why would you want to establish "free speech" as a right in every demonstration with a privately obtained permit? You want the JDL to enforce their "right" to join our marches and meetings?
Aw but bagkitty, you will be here for the Pride 2014 oui? I will be!!
The difference here is that QUAIA members and supporters are presumably members of Pride Toronto and thus their rights as organization members may be being infringed as apart from outsiders attempted to crash someone else's demo.
Ok, I wasn't thinking of that angle - but it's still a private matter. If we're in a rock music appreciation club and the chair of the monthly meeting throws you out when you try to talk about Israeli apartheid, I don't think you have any recourse - unless there's some contractual relationship, and you can patch together a civil suit. "Freedom of speech" doesn't apply here. I recognize that out in the street it's trickier, but where parade permits are in force, especially where they're used to allow marchers to use the streets and bar traffic etc., I think you're at the mercy of the permit holders.
If you carried a sign along the sidewalk parallel to the parade without interfering with anyone, and some authority tried to stop you, then you've got lots of recourse.
I don't think anyone should be expressing much surprise... if you go to the linked article and scroll down to the reproduction of the original statement by Pride Toronto (the copy in italics) you will see the following:
It is obviously about "the total economic benefits! The mistake is to think that Pride is supposed to represent the interests of the LGBTTIQQ2SA communities, rather it addresses the interest of the CSW2FMQB-CSDTM community (+BP)* It is all a matter of being able to decipher the alphabet soup of acronyms.
I particularly like the reference (in the second paragraph quoted above, to the "Special Events Industy" - really, it warms the cockles of my heart to know there is a whole "Industry" devoted to this.
*Corporate Sponsors Willing To Fund Marginally Questionable Behaviour (so long as the) Corporate Sponsors Define The Margins (and their Bureaucratic Peers)
bagkitty, I'm so coming to Calgary Pride and we are so getting drunk together.
Artists to Pride Toronto: Freedom of expression should be offensive
Pride Toronto developing "free expression policy"
I'm not sure what sort of policy is involved in free expression, but there it is.
As long as I find some HOT guys whose pants come down after a few drinks, I don't care WHAT signs are allowed!
The dude's gone
Xtra: Were Pride Toronto's focus groups stacked?
How not surprising.
From Xtra: Jewish group pushes Pride Toronto to condemn "anti-Israel hate groups"
[President and CEO of the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center--Canada, Avi] Benlolo insists that criticism of Israel is the first step towards violence against Jewish people.
Hmm, it's not OK to criticize Israel.
Last pride in Toronto, i was not part of the march. I have never joined in the march, but i've always watched. So last year, i bought a magnetic drawing white board and wrote the words "queers against israelie aparthied" in big letters along the side of the march where i walked passed the passerby.. some body yelld at me "hey i am jewish, asshole" or something like that
I also redid my drawing board and wrote things like "calling transsexuals shemales is just as offensive as calling gays faggot" and also "bring OMAR back to Canada " and some strnager asked me who Omar is.
I found it really empowering that i answer to no one, not the pride organizers, or anyone else, i am a one person march using the pride occasion to champion my causes.
i will do it again this year..anyone up for it? no one can censor me. i am not part of the march. I dont agree with the celebratory/coporate mood of the pride march, i am more the aggressive or less optimistic type.
Wow, he's even going beyond the usual "party line" that criticism of Israel is okay as long as you don't "cross a line" (which of course is never defined - you just get snide insinuations that you might have crossed it but never any concrete evidence of it.) Now it's simply that you can't criticize Israel at all:
That's what he's calling QuAIA. "Anti-semetic thugs".
What a total idiot.
Well...there's always the option of starting an ALTERNATE parade.
which would end up being the one everyone wanted to watch in the end anyway.
There are lots of alternative pride events in the city. Queer West comes to mind. Lots of progressive folks go to the alternate events anyhow. But that doesn't mean that people should cede ground for the big events. It's pretty bad when corporations are co-opting and taking it over, and pro-Apartheid groups who never gave a fuck about queer rights before are demanding to be the arbiters of what should and shouldn't be allowed in the event.
It sounds like this parade has been taken over by something like a Canadian version of our Log Cabin Club(the gay Republican organization...and yes, if it sounds like "Chickens for Colonel Sanders", it pretty much is.)
Is there a group like that in the Tories? I know there are some token gay Tory mp's, but I'm not sure if there's actually an organization promoting the idea that part of that community should work within Canada's Party Of Hate.
On another tangent, let's start a pool. How long until Toronto Pride (Inc.) starts doing an International Olympic Committee (Inc.) and starts suing people for misappropiating the name and symbols?