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Cuba: A nation which would be PERFECT if it weren't for...
Cuba needs to connect with a group of countries that actually believe in and practices free trade without attaching political influence and mafia-like conditions for being accepted into the fold. Because if human rights were a real an issue between Uncle Sam and all the richest countries recycling US dollars and financing US imperialism, overconsumption habit and cheap fossil fuel addiction, the USSA would be in a heap of trouble from just about every angle. And that day could well be coming soon with the ongoing US dollar glut spreading inflation to the enabler countries. And the truth is that the nuclear-powered USSA represents the largest threat to democracy everywhere around the world today. It's time to introduce war criminals to the people's justice, and trade sanctions would go a long way to repairing the situation of world justice denied for too long. Trade sanctions by Canada alone would be enough to bring vicious empire central its knees. War criminals would be arraigned tomorrow if that was ever the case. And I think this leftwing project would be far more effective in the end than focussing on Israeli apartheid. It's a noble cause, but there really is just one way to deal with the world bully, and that is to focus directly on the vicious empire's central location of operations itself.
I know I've said before that I don't believe in trade sanctions. And I still don't. South Africa was a victory for the left, but neocolonialism is still an ongoing problem in Africa today and genocides still perpetrated all over Africa by the vicious empire and its proxy nations. If the left is going to promote divestment and sanctions, why not do it right and go for the gold medal? Why be satisfied with stamping out one fire among far too many raging out of control around the world? Why not wage a concentrated effort against the main culprits and orchestrators of global imperialism? The doctor and the madman got away with orchestrating mass murder of millions. When will it end?
What if it's found that he hits his wife. Is it OK to mention it, or would that also be in poor taste? Can we say that's not OK, or does his cancer trump that in some kind of false dilemma?
He doesn't have cancer, his dead wife did (the one you're claiming he "hits"--great sense of taste there Snert). You're so trigger happy that you're skipping over the words you're reading. You flubbed your opportunity to look clever.
"Fidel Castro and Cuba's state media monopoly have confronted international and opposition criticisms of the Cuban government following last week's death of political prisoner Orlando Zapata Tamayo after an 85 day hunger strike:
'In our case we have never tortured anyone, we have never ordered an adversary killed, we have never lied to the people," the retired Cuban President said.."
Cuba would be perfect if it pioneered a new and innovative syndicalist movement. Cuba would be decimated by allowing the western facade of democracy; just ask the people duped by the various American backed multicolored "democracy revolutions." I personally would love to live in a country where major economic decisions were made democratically. Most Canadians I think would agree.
Cubans appear to by and large just peacefully go abut their businesses giving nominal support to their government because it engages in a facade of "democracy." I don't see much difference in the legitimacy of their system compared to ours. They both allow the ruling elite to make the important decisions. The real difference is that in Canada our leaders have to phone Washington first.
. The real difference is that in Canada our leaders have to phone Washington first.
And just look at how well Haiti and Honduras and El Salvador and Guatemala are doing. Shining exampels of US-managed democracies for sure. The Cubans make sure to let everyone on the island know just how democratic and prosperous they are in US-managed Haiti just 55 miles away. It works so well that the US-CIA doesn't bother with anymore Bay of Pigs fiascos, because the Yanks know that Cubans are going to welcome them with open arms. Some day. Not today mind us, but sometime when this latest capitalist crisis is over and the US system, with its prosperous and democratic backyard surrounding Cuba on all sides, might appeal to Cubans more than it has at any time during the cold war and today.
BTW, Sven, why does Fidel owe it to YOU to criticize Cuba?
I mean, fine, there are grounds for criticism and there's room for improvement. But do you really believe that Cuba is the most oppressive place on the planet?
(the North Koreans and Saudis would likely take issue with that, for openers.)
And why, precisely, can you NOT let this go?
Why ARE you doing a Joe McCarthy/HUAC imitation in this thread?
(on edit)
Obviously, you can answer all that once you get out of the Babble penalty box.
Sven is on an involuntary 7 day sabbatical right now, but I'll take a stab on his behalf. Like most American conservative types, Sven can't wait for the rapture, and if you read between the lines in Revelations, Fidel answering a direct question simply and plainly is the Third Seal of the Apocalypse. For what it's worth, Maysie's suspension of Sven may have prevented End Times!
Sven is on an involuntary 7 day sabbatical right now, but I'll take a stab on his behalf. Like most American conservative types, Sven can't wait for the rapture, and if you read between the lines in Revelations, Fidel answering a direct question simply and plainly is the Third Seal of the Apocalypse. For what it's worth, Maysie's suspension of Sven may have prevented End Times!
Given his firm atheistic position, this is going to prompt a second coming for Sven for sure.
"Spain's aim is to push for 'a greater commitment by Cuban authorities with respect to human rights', as well as 'the release of political prisoners.."
The current media war against Cuba, which seems to be heading for yet another episode these days, is based on four fundamental lies:
a) The prisoners in Cuba who are the object of controversy are in jail for their political views.
b) Cuban prisoner Orlando Zapata Tamayo who recently died following a self-imposed hunger strike was in prison for political reasons.
c) Tamayo died resulting from a lack of concern or even deliberate actions by Cuban medical prison and political authorities.
d) The Damas de Blanco were physically harassed by citizens and then violently detained by Cuban authorities during their demonstration in Havana on March 18.
Much of the corporate-controlled mass media in North America and Europe and the European Union itself give themselves the right to lie about Cuba or other countries which do not fit into the northern paradigm of “acceptable states”. Even worse, the monopoly media do not even feel that they have to answer to this most important accusation. Striving to tell the truth as opposed to deliberately spreading lies in the media is no minor issue and should therefore receive the maximum attention...
Arnold August was born in Montreal, Canada in 1944. He obtained his Masters in Political Science in 1970 from McGill University, Montreal. He has worked for a research institute, specializing in constitutional and electoral issues and has written articles for the Canadian press on these subjects. The author is presently involved in a specialized Canada-based travel agency whose objective is to send foreigners to visit Cuba in order to directly find about the Cuban reality through their own experience.
Sven, what would Puerto Rico look like if it couldn't sell anything to the mainland for a few decades? Newfoundland? PEI? Cubans want to trade freely with America and without interfering in US political affairs. Why is Washington so afraid of Cuba that it has to isolate a tiny Caribbean nation as if a colony of lepers? Cuba is just a mouse by comparison. The whole thing is silly.
Arnold August . . . is presently involved in a specialized Canada-based travel agency whose objective is to send foreigners to visit Cuba in order to directly find about the Cuban reality through their own experience.
Gee, no conflict of interest there.
Quote:
TWO years ago last month Raúl Castro formally took over as Cuba’s president from his convalescent elder brother, Fidel. The switch raised hopes of reforms, especially of the communist country’s long dysfunctional agriculture. But change has been glacial. Official figures show that in the first two months of this year deliveries to the capital’s food markets were a third less than forecast. Nobody starves, but hard-currency supermarkets go for weeks without basics such as milk and bread.
What has gone wrong? Cuba’s state-owned farms are massively inefficient, and rarely provide more than 20% of the country’s food needs. Three hurricanes in 2008 made matters worse. Raúl Castro has acknowledged the problem, and introduced some changes. Idle state land has been leased to private farmers. The government has raised the guaranteed prices it pays for produce. Farmers can now legally buy their own basic equipment such as shovels and boots, without having to wait for government handouts
But farmers say that the reforms have been too piecemeal to be effective. In meetings across the country they have called for more. They want to buy their own fertilisers and pesticides, and to control distribution. The government still supplies almost everything, and does it badly. Much of last year’s bumper crop of tomatoes rotted because government trucks failed to collect them on time.
. . .
But Raúl continues to move very cautiously. So Cuba will buy much of its food from foreign suppliers. Foreign exchange, never abundant—partly because of the American economic embargo—is again in short supply. The world recession cut Cuba’s earnings from nickel and tourism last year. Imports fell last year by almost 40%.
I think we can all agree that losing the hurricanes would help.
Cuba needs to connect with a group of countries that actually believe in and practices free trade without attaching political influence and mafia-like conditions for being accepted into the fold. Because if human rights were a real an issue between Uncle Sam and all the richest countries recycling US dollars and financing US imperialism, overconsumption habit and cheap fossil fuel addiction, the USSA would be in a heap of trouble from just about every angle. And that day could well be coming soon with the ongoing US dollar glut spreading inflation to the enabler countries. And the truth is that the nuclear-powered USSA represents the largest threat to democracy everywhere around the world today. It's time to introduce war criminals to the people's justice, and trade sanctions would go a long way to repairing the situation of world justice denied for too long. Trade sanctions by Canada alone would be enough to bring vicious empire central its knees. War criminals would be arraigned tomorrow if that was ever the case. And I think this leftwing project would be far more effective in the end than focussing on Israeli apartheid. It's a noble cause, but there really is just one way to deal with the world bully, and that is to focus directly on the vicious empire's central location of operations itself.
I know I've said before that I don't believe in trade sanctions. And I still don't. South Africa was a victory for the left, but neocolonialism is still an ongoing problem in Africa today and genocides still perpetrated all over Africa by the vicious empire and its proxy nations. If the left is going to promote divestment and sanctions, why not do it right and go for the gold medal? Why be satisfied with stamping out one fire among far too many raging out of control around the world? Why not wage a concentrated effort against the main culprits and orchestrators of global imperialism? The doctor and the madman got away with orchestrating mass murder of millions. When will it end?
He doesn't have cancer, his dead wife did (the one you're claiming he "hits"--great sense of taste there Snert). You're so trigger happy that you're skipping over the words you're reading. You flubbed your opportunity to look clever.
Very well. Let my point be discarded, as per the rules.
...if it wasn't for doctor evol running the place
Welcome to my lair of evol.
For the record I agree with Fidel here. I thought Sven was just well, being svennish. And Fidel doesn't usually need rescuing.
Fidel Castro Defends Treatment of Dead Dissident:
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=353106&CategoryId=14510
"Fidel Castro and Cuba's state media monopoly have confronted international and opposition criticisms of the Cuban government following last week's death of political prisoner Orlando Zapata Tamayo after an 85 day hunger strike:
'In our case we have never tortured anyone, we have never ordered an adversary killed, we have never lied to the people," the retired Cuban President said.."
This thread reminded me of this old ditty. I can't seem to find the rest of the lyrics on the internet.
We ain't got no capitalists in Albania,
We ain't got no corporate tentacles
No multi-nationals mar our misty mountains
And we think Enver Hoxha's pretty swell.
Cuba would be perfect if it pioneered a new and innovative syndicalist movement. Cuba would be decimated by allowing the western facade of democracy; just ask the people duped by the various American backed multicolored "democracy revolutions." I personally would love to live in a country where major economic decisions were made democratically. Most Canadians I think would agree.
Cubans appear to by and large just peacefully go abut their businesses giving nominal support to their government because it engages in a facade of "democracy." I don't see much difference in the legitimacy of their system compared to ours. They both allow the ruling elite to make the important decisions. The real difference is that in Canada our leaders have to phone Washington first.
How was it that, just by looking at the thread title, I could GUESS that this was a Sven thread?
BTW, Sven, why does Fidel owe it to YOU to criticize Cuba?
I mean, fine, there are grounds for criticism and there's room for improvement. But do you really believe that Cuba is the most oppressive place on the planet?
(the North Koreans and Saudis would likely take issue with that, for openers.)
And why, precisely, can you NOT let this go?
Why ARE you doing a Joe McCarthy/HUAC imitation in this thread?
(on edit)
Obviously, you can answer all that once you get out of the Babble penalty box.
Sven's reply with be forthcoming on March 9 (or sometime thereafter). Can't wait.
Sven is on an involuntary 7 day sabbatical right now, but I'll take a stab on his behalf. Like most American conservative types, Sven can't wait for the rapture, and if you read between the lines in Revelations, Fidel answering a direct question simply and plainly is the Third Seal of the Apocalypse. For what it's worth, Maysie's suspension of Sven may have prevented End Times!
Thanks Maysie!
We'd ALL have been "Left Behind!"
Given his firm atheistic position, this is going to prompt a second coming for Sven for sure.
Sven is the Messiah?
ha ha
My understanding is that Sven is closer to Cuba than most of us this week.
Yeah, just like Sarah Palin can "see" Russia from her back door in Alaska, maybe I can "see" Cuba from Ft Myers...
Well, I always suspected that you were clairvoyant, Ken!
Did you get paroled early for good behaviour?
Thanks!!
Cuba: a nation which would be PEFECT if it weren't for...the fact that, like every other nation, it isn't.
Any other questions?
Cuba: Human Rights at the Eye of the Storm
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=50672
"Spain's aim is to push for 'a greater commitment by Cuban authorities with respect to human rights', as well as 'the release of political prisoners.."
Lies and Facts in the Media War Against Cuba
Arnold August was born in Montreal, Canada in 1944. He obtained his Masters in Political Science in 1970 from McGill University, Montreal. He has worked for a research institute, specializing in constitutional and electoral issues and has written articles for the Canadian press on these subjects. The author is presently involved in a specialized Canada-based travel agency whose objective is to send foreigners to visit Cuba in order to directly find about the Cuban reality through their own experience.
Cuba: A nation which would be PERFECT if it weren't for...
...the lies of the mainstream media.
Sven, what would Puerto Rico look like if it couldn't sell anything to the mainland for a few decades? Newfoundland? PEI? Cubans want to trade freely with America and without interfering in US political affairs. Why is Washington so afraid of Cuba that it has to isolate a tiny Caribbean nation as if a colony of lepers? Cuba is just a mouse by comparison. The whole thing is silly.
Gee, no conflict of interest there.
Cuba's food shortages: Hungry for change