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In the world of political discourse, good spelling, pronunciation and understanding are important. In the same way, an argument is taken less seriously when the wrong words or terminology are used.
Nice elitist view of the world. Using correct language when you screw people over is so important.
Flaming spells are the lamest of the lame and only people who suffer what I term the centre of the universe syndrome would think that they had the right to correct others because of their superior education and social status. Around here I tend to take those kinds of arguments by my "betters" as proof they are elitist and merely using classism to silence the voices of the marginalized.
"In the world of political discourse, good spelling, pronunciation and understanding are important."
Politicians and journalists etc... need to have good spelling and grammar etc...since they are in public life. People who post anonymously in blogs like this can misspell all they want!
We all make the odd typo, and that's fine. I do it myself too of course. But consistent and major spelling mistakes and sloppy writing is another matter.
If you are interested, you can do a quick google search and you will find many books and articles which document the deterioration today of writing and spelling skills, particularly by the younger generation, as a result of people thinking it's no big deal to "misspell all they want" online.
I consider careful writing to be an important quality, and I wouldn't hire someone to work on my staff if they didn't bother to proofread what they write or if they used the wrong terminology and language when making an argument.
Fine, don't hire him then. However, before you get too hoity-toity, go read the Babble rules of posting. And then, act accordingly. Because you're really starting to get very annoying very quickly.
Fine, don't hire him then. However, before you get too hoity-toity, go read the Babble rules of posting. And then, act accordingly. Because you're really starting to get very annoying very quickly.
Are you ever annoying? Or are you always perfect?
You called a post of mine silly on another thread earlier.
Augustus, just curious what your purpose is in being here, seeing as this is supposed to be a progressive board? Don't you think you would fit in better at Freak Dominion. Your right-wing nonsense is wearing a bit thin.
Agustus on this board we don't give corporations the rights of individuals. So I can call Freak dominion anything I fucking want. You see it is your confusion on things like who has individual rights that makes most of us think you are merely her for a little fishing. I just don't understand your pouting when people spit the lure back at you.
At times I work on my posts and pay attention to spelling -- other times I am trying to respond quickly to something in real time.
I don't think that a professional standard applies or that there are significant optics to posts. Clarity has value but a spelling mistake where it is obvious what you mean hardly seems important. I'd like to think most people here are interested in the content and a lot of people here are truth seeking (as well as advocating) and so they are unlikely to be deterred by spelling errors.
It is true that someone with a lot of spelling errors may look like they were being a bit sloppy, but by the same token the person who points them out will look like a person who cannot distinguish the importance of an argument from the spelling, is petty and is unable to apply good judgment. That too, colours the reception of their argument-- perhaps more (at least for me) than someone who misspells a word here or there.
(And no I am not going to go back and proof read this so that Augustus will take me "seriously.")
He is going to use that new Faux News North TV station to undermine the bloc and drum up conservative votes in Quebec rather give into the Bloc which would alienate his alienated ( by their own government) western conservatives nuerotic rotten reformist bloc voters-those who would rather dumpster dive than spend the first dollar they ever had-because they can never have enough, and those immigrants are, why do we need two languages, everyone should speak Canadian English in Canada, we are not bilingual, and a women's place is in the home, next time keep your legs closed, and lock them up and throw away the key, you should have known better, and it is your own fault and I never got, and why should they, my taxes, get a job, welfare users spend money on beer and cigarettes, we built this country, lunatic fringe groups.
Augustus, the culture of babble has evolved to not encourage commentary or corrections in spelling errors if the meaning is clear. Sometimes, between babblers who know each other, there are jokes about spelling errors, deliberate and otherwise. Sometimes these jokes work, sometimes they don't. All this is to tell you that while your standards regarding correct spelling are appropriate for the world of paid employment, they are not appropriate for a discussion board such as babble.
Since babblers come from a range of education levels and backgrounds, as well as the fact that some post while feeling intensely emotional about certain issues (and I include myself in that), typos, spelling errors and other grammatical pieces are generally left alone and not critiqued. Others have already expressed my thoughts on this. I hope the thread drift on this is over. If people would like to continue on this topic, please start a thread in "rabble reactions".
As for the name calling, some babblers have a habit of calling another discussion board, which leans to the extreme right, all sorts of nasty names. While I don't partake in that, it's considered fair game given that participants on that board seem to relish mocking babble, rabble and all things lefty.
RockyRacoon, that rant is scary, and is basically going to be the talking points loop when Fox News comes north. Thanks for nothing.
Nice elitist view of the world. Using correct language when you screw people over is so important.
Flaming spells are the lamest of the lame and only people who suffer what I term the centre of the universe syndrome would think that they had the right to correct others because of their superior education and social status. Around here I tend to take those kinds of arguments by my "betters" as proof they are elitist and merely using classism to silence the voices of the marginalized.
"In the world of political discourse, good spelling, pronunciation and understanding are important."
Politicians and journalists etc... need to have good spelling and grammar etc...since they are in public life. People who post anonymously in blogs like this can misspell all they want!
We all make the odd typo, and that's fine. I do it myself too of course. But consistent and major spelling mistakes and sloppy writing is another matter.
If you are interested, you can do a quick google search and you will find many books and articles which document the deterioration today of writing and spelling skills, particularly by the younger generation, as a result of people thinking it's no big deal to "misspell all they want" online.
I consider careful writing to be an important quality, and I wouldn't hire someone to work on my staff if they didn't bother to proofread what they write or if they used the wrong terminology and language when making an argument.
Fine, don't hire him then. However, before you get too hoity-toity, go read the Babble rules of posting. And then, act accordingly. Because you're really starting to get very annoying very quickly.
Are you ever annoying? Or are you always perfect?
You called a post of mine silly on another thread earlier.
Augustus, just curious what your purpose is in being here, seeing as this is supposed to be a progressive board? Don't you think you would fit in better at Freak Dominion. Your right-wing nonsense is wearing a bit thin.
I am not right-wing. You should be able to tell from my previous posts that I am socially liberal (eg. pro gay-rights).
And what is your purpose here? You seem to often trumpet pro-BQ polls.
Btw, "Freak" is name-calling.
Agustus on this board we don't give corporations the rights of individuals. So I can call Freak dominion anything I fucking want. You see it is your confusion on things like who has individual rights that makes most of us think you are merely her for a little fishing. I just don't understand your pouting when people spit the lure back at you.
At times I work on my posts and pay attention to spelling -- other times I am trying to respond quickly to something in real time.
I don't think that a professional standard applies or that there are significant optics to posts. Clarity has value but a spelling mistake where it is obvious what you mean hardly seems important. I'd like to think most people here are interested in the content and a lot of people here are truth seeking (as well as advocating) and so they are unlikely to be deterred by spelling errors.
It is true that someone with a lot of spelling errors may look like they were being a bit sloppy, but by the same token the person who points them out will look like a person who cannot distinguish the importance of an argument from the spelling, is petty and is unable to apply good judgment. That too, colours the reception of their argument-- perhaps more (at least for me) than someone who misspells a word here or there.
(And no I am not going to go back and proof read this so that Augustus will take me "seriously.")
He is going to use that new Faux News North TV station to undermine the bloc and drum up conservative votes in Quebec rather give into the Bloc which would alienate his alienated ( by their own government) western conservatives nuerotic rotten reformist bloc voters-those who would rather dumpster dive than spend the first dollar they ever had-because they can never have enough, and those immigrants are, why do we need two languages, everyone should speak Canadian English in Canada, we are not bilingual, and a women's place is in the home, next time keep your legs closed, and lock them up and throw away the key, you should have known better, and it is your own fault and I never got, and why should they, my taxes, get a job, welfare users spend money on beer and cigarettes, we built this country, lunatic fringe groups.
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Augustus, the culture of babble has evolved to not encourage commentary or corrections in spelling errors if the meaning is clear. Sometimes, between babblers who know each other, there are jokes about spelling errors, deliberate and otherwise. Sometimes these jokes work, sometimes they don't. All this is to tell you that while your standards regarding correct spelling are appropriate for the world of paid employment, they are not appropriate for a discussion board such as babble.
Since babblers come from a range of education levels and backgrounds, as well as the fact that some post while feeling intensely emotional about certain issues (and I include myself in that), typos, spelling errors and other grammatical pieces are generally left alone and not critiqued. Others have already expressed my thoughts on this. I hope the thread drift on this is over. If people would like to continue on this topic, please start a thread in "rabble reactions".
As for the name calling, some babblers have a habit of calling another discussion board, which leans to the extreme right, all sorts of nasty names. While I don't partake in that, it's considered fair game given that participants on that board seem to relish mocking babble, rabble and all things lefty.
RockyRacoon, that rant is scary, and is basically going to be the talking points loop when Fox News comes north. Thanks for nothing.
Hey, 102 posts. Closing for length.