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Canada-Israel Committee counters criticism of Israel with homophobic tweet

Michelle
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They removed it after they got complaints, but luckily, someone was on their toes and got a screen capture of a homophobic remark the Canada-Israel Committee posted about Libby Davies on Twitter.

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Davies' goofy views must be denounced - Province ed reminds Libby mouthy lesbians aren't wanted in #Gaza

What morons.  And who does the Canada-Israel claim to represent on Twitter?

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The CIC is the official rep of the organized Jewish community on matters re Canada-Israel relations.

Apparently the CIC doesn't like "mouthy lesbians" much either!  Which isn't that big a surprise.  After all, they're working hard to try to make sure "mouthy" queers who speak out against Israeli apartheid are silenced during Pride. 

 


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bagkitty
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Damn, looks like someone didn't read the memo about the "pinkwash" campaign. I am anxiously awaiting the non-stop press coverage demanding immediate resignations.


Unionist
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Just to complete the picture, here is the editorial, entitled "Davies' goofy views must be denounced", - and I think I need to break our usual rule of not linking to obscenity and hate, otherwise one can't really understand this story:

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One wonders if Vancouver East MP Libby Davies has ever imagined what her life would be like if she lived in the Gaza Strip, or in nearly any other Muslim territory.

As an extremely left-wing, outspoken, lesbian woman, there's a very good chance that if she hadn't been murdered already for everything she represents — either by the state or possibly her family — she'd long ago have been buried away in some dark cell, out of sight and mind, to prevent her ideas or example from spreading to others.

So, the CIC will no doubt defend themselves (if anyone challenges them - but no one will, especially not Libby's leader) by saying they were merely describing the editorial, not their own view of Libby. But as I said, no one except a few insignificant people like Rick Telfer and other oddballs, like us, would step forward on just a jokey harmless little jab like this, right?

But seriously - shouldn't Jack Layton hold a press conference to defend his Deputy Leader against being called a "mouthy lesbian", and demand that the CIC identify and take action against whoever posted that - besides the NDP taking its own action?


ottawaobserver
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Well, given that I posted this story to the other thread hours ago, I would have thought there would have already been a letter-writing campaign organized to the CIC.  But apparently, they're not the target, again it's Jack Layton who's fallen down by not calling a news conference to criticize them.


skdadl
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I read that editorial earlier today. It seemed to me to be just short of an outright warning, to Libby, to lesbians and gays, to women, to the left generally -- be grateful we haven't put you in jail. Yet.

Maybe the mindlessly conventional don't realize how close to fascism they come with that argument, but really, a fair translation of what they're saying to us would be something like, "Look here, you weirdos: we tolerate your sort in Canada. So STFU. Or ..." Or forking what?


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ottawaobserver wrote:

Well, given that I posted this story to the other thread hours ago, I would have thought there would have already been a letter-writing campaign organized to the CIC.  But apparently, they're not the target, again it's Jack Layton who's fallen down by not calling a news conference to criticize them.

The CIC are an abomination and should be condemned for their day-to-day work. No, OO, I don't write letters of protest to the CIC or CJC, because they are neither government nor someone I have any hope of influencing. I do, however, write letters to the editor on occasion, and articles in union bulletins, and posts on discussion boards, condemning their activities, because my audience is real people, not enemies.

Having said that, explain to me why Jack Layton should not stand up and condemn these people publicly - if only to defend: (a) his Deputy Leader; and (b) respect for LGBTQ folks.

 


ottawaobserver
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But you know, skdadl, queer Davenport Liberal Mario Silva made the very same argument in his year-ender with the Capital Xtra Politics Blog "Hill Queeries":

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Q: Have you weighed in on the Pride Toronto debate?
A: I think the Pride committee is doing the right thing by saying no to the hate mongering of the Queers for Israeli Apartheid. It's a total distortion of reality - Israel is the only country in the Middle East that gives protection to gays and lesbians, so I find that it's just absurd, it's wrong, it's falsehoods, and it has nothing to do with advocating and a celebration of Pride, which all of us want to be doing. This is going to be a great event in Toronto, and I look forward to participating again this year, and we should all be proud of our community and the efforts that have gone, but we shouldn't allow for a small minority group within the community or people who want to associate themselves with the community to hijack what has been now, traditionally a fantastic Pride Day event.

Q: And you're not concerned about the censorship complaints?
A: I'm not concerned about that at all. I think what they're doing is spreading falsehoods in the first place, so there's no merit to their statements, and I certainly can't support that. I think the Pride Committee is absolutely right and in compliance with the city's guidelines, and I'm very much support of the actions taken by the Pride Committee, and the City of Toronto has taken some real initiative, both from the Mayor and even the people who are running for mayor, have all shown solidarity around this issue. So I think this is a minority group within the community, who may not be members of the community but want to affiliate themselves with the community, and hijack an event that is overall one of the most successful events in the city of Toronto.

Now, I'm pretty sure the journalist mis-transcribed the answer, because it's Queers *against* IA, but apart from that ...


skdadl
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Oh, for fork's sake. Could "some" forking babblers leave their forking egos at the forking door, just once, just once, and discuss the forking topic at forking hand without turning everything into a forking battle amongst their forking selves? This place is so forking impossibly meta I cannot cope, I truly cannot.


ottawaobserver
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Unionist, I'm sure he's picking his moment, and looking forward to it.


remind
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This is really unbelievable, in this day and age...

... not only that, its implications to the Pride Toronto Board are significant, as they pandered to an entity that is essentially spreading hate in respect to lesbians......

 

Bob Rae should be ashamed, as should all those on CIC. A formal apology has to happen and swiftly....


Michelle
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Her Facebook page is also being spammed by Islamophobic and hateful trolls.

You know, it's funny.  Cheri DiNovo whined something awful to the media about how she was oh so persecuted on Facebook, and how that persecution from "the left" or from supporters of Palestinians was so terrible.  And even still, she doesn't allow any comments on her items from her "friends" on Facebook, perhaps so she isn't tempted to take another midnight tantrum on her own Facebook page.

Meanwhile, everyone who posted on DiNovo's page actually posted thoughtful and intelligent posts, asking her in the spirit of solidarity to reconsider.  And it's true, they were persistent.  They made strong arguments.  But they never personally attacked her, never said anything personally hurtful.  Then she went off the deep end and accused the people who were posting polite but persuasive arguments on her FB wall of phoning her at home with death threats.

All I can say is, Cheri should count her lucky stars that the activists posting on her wall didn't treat her the way the apartheid-supporting trolls who are posting on Libby's wall are treating her.  Here's how some supporters of Israel consider an acceptable way to address a Canadian politician on their Facebook wall:

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Barry TheGreat DON'T YOU THINK LIBBY DAVIES LOOKS LIKE A COW??? MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Barry TheGreat FACT: Muslims kill any one in their way including innocent Christians, how can you support such barbaric actions as well as falsely criticize the only Democratic country in the middle east? LEAVE THE NDP YOU WITCH!!!


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Ravid Rom she wont care about lesbians or gays getting killed. she wont care about israelis getting killed either. she wont care about hundreds of people getting killed in Kyrgyzstan. she wont care about hundreds of refugees from Sudan getting killed in Egypt. she didn't even care about 6 millions jews getting killed by the nazis. her first ridicilous goal : get rid of the Israeli state.
long live israel.♥

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Ilona Jonnele Islamic law is unconstitutional. Its
institutionalized discrimination against other religions violates the First and
Fourteenth Amendments; its institutionalized discrimination against women
violates the Fourteenth Amendment; its institutionalized punishment against
adulterers, homosexuals, etc., violates the Eighth Amendm...ent. Etc., etc., etc.
Why do we need another law? Let's enforces the laws on the books.

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Doug Duichlas Sather I want you to resign as an MP. You SHAME US ALL.

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Ravid Rom: You should thank israel that 9 of the attackers were killed and not all of them - 30 people.

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Ravid Rom Let's fight anti-Semitism? It means also stop the hate for Jews.
Most Arab Muslims hate Jews.

They're also spamming her wall with diatribes against Sharia law, as if Libby has somehow declared her support for it. 

ottawaobserver
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It's so sick, Michelle.


remind
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And Bob Rae has associated himself with these people....


Michelle
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Yeah, other people have too, remind.  People closer to home than Rae.


remind
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Rae demanded her job.

 

My feeling on 'Muc'lair and his actions in this respect have already been declared


vaudree
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I think that is Bill Siksay's portfolio when it involves homophobia.

Libby D would do best to keep the worst of the comments to bring up to discredit her distractors when they again raise their ugly heads.

I am sure that whoever runs against Rae would also want to get their hands on a few of them.


bagkitty
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Michelle: thank you for posting the Facebook page comments, I find them particularly interesting (as well as confirmation of my decision to have nothing to do with Facebook). Ilona Jonnele's are of particular interest to me. They are the clearest indication that those coordinating the Facebook attack should spend a little more time training their minions to stay on message, and doing a wee bit of education that this great big interweb thingy actually connects to places outside of the USofA - at least they could have created a sample message that wasn't quite so easily identifiable as to where it originated.


skdadl
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The listing of the offences to the amendments is amusing, is it not? (Much though I honour the USian Bill of Rights as a classic expression of basic principles and structures.) Some people are just so talking-pointy when they write, eh? Such a giveaway.

I wish to apologize for my outburst above. I don't usually burst out, and I was wrong to do that. Sorry, and hugs to all.


bagkitty
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No forking problem. Wink


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ottawaobserver wrote:

But you know, skdadl, queer Davenport Liberal Mario Silva made the very same argument in his year-ender with the Capital Xtra Politics Blog "Hill Queeries":

Good observation - and in fact, it's a standard, ritualized talking point for the Israel lobby - "you queers would be dead if you were in Gaza, but Israel is one big Pride celebration".

We should also recall that Mario Silva is a co-chair of the rabidly pro-Israel Canadian Parliamentary Coalition to Combat Antisemitism. They get their manual of talking points direct from the source. These are dangerous people.

 


Michelle
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Well, I guess I should be glad that I just moved from his riding to Jack's!


Doug
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Unionist wrote:

Good observation - and in fact, it's a standard, ritualized talking point for the Israel lobby - "you queers would be dead if you were in Gaza, but Israel is one big Pride celebration".

 

And they're right...if we went to Tel Aviv Pride. Jersualem Pride is another story. But since when has being nice to gays inside Israel justified being nasty to Palestinians outside Israel?


bagkitty
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Doug... are you really sure you want to be saying Jerusalem is part of Israel?


Michelle
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Good point!  Although apartheid supporters claim it is.


Ken Burch
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Depends on which part of it.  I think even Palestinians are ok with WEST Jerusalem being part of Israel.  As far as I know.


Cueball
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No Yards
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skdadl wrote:

The listing of the offences to the amendments is amusing, is it not? (Much though I honour the USian Bill of Rights as a classic expression of basic principles and structures.) Some people are just so talking-pointy when they write, eh? Such a giveaway.

I wish to apologize for my outburst above. I don't usually burst out, and I was wrong to do that. Sorry, and hugs to all.

 

Not to mention that most Christian sects in the USA also violate those same ammendments ... but the constitution  includes religious freedom, so the fundamentalist Christians, like the Muslims, and that poster, are free to be repugnant iceholes.


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Ken Burch wrote:

Depends on which part of it.  I think even Palestinians are ok with WEST Jerusalem being part of Israel.  As far as I know.

Honestly, Ken, no one in the world has ever recognized the division of Jerusalem or Israel's right to any part of it - not even the U.S. The United Nations declared it as an international city under U.N. protection, with religious rights of the three religions protected. Joe Clark learned this truth to his embarrassment in 1979, as you may recall. Jerusalem - or more properly, Al-Quds, is not part of Israel.


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skdadl wrote:

I wish to apologize for my outburst above. I don't usually burst out, and I was wrong to do that. Sorry, and hugs to all.

Hugs and forgiveness. Anyway, if June is busting out all over, why not skdadl?

 


Ken Burch
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Cueball wrote:

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Isn't the position that East Jerusalem would be the capital of a Palestinian state?


I wasn't aware that they now wanted all of Jerusalem.  If that is the case I stand corrected.


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Ken Burch wrote:

Cueball wrote:

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Isn't the position that East Jerusalem would be the capital of a Palestinian state?


I wasn't aware that they now wanted all of Jerusalem.  If that is the case I stand corrected.

When you say "they now wanted all of Jerusalem", I hope you have noticed that it is the Israeli aggressors that have continuously brayed the mantra of "the indivisible capital of Israel" - a "capital" that no serious country in the entire world recognizes.

Yes, you stand corrected.


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