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Nice try, but Giambrone is in the non-partisan Toronto City council. There is no caucus. The only one he can embarrass is himself. Unlike Guergis who is a federal Tory cabinet Minister and icon. Its also absurd to compare having an affair and possibly questionable $10 taxi chit - with cavorting with drug dealers and biker gang members and insulting an entire province.
"the non-partisan Toronto City council" ???
LOL - Anyone who has spent any time watching council votes will see the same blocks. Millerites (=NDP) vote one way, the righteous opposition (=Conservatives) vote another. Most Liberal types sided with the lefty Millerites.
Anyone who thinks there is no party stuff going on at Toronto council is kidding themselves.
With the exception of Mammoliti (and yes I know he was an NDP mpp, but his last membership was with the federal Liberals)
Yes of course Toronto (Megacity)city councillors have party affiliations or at least affinities, it is a political body after all, so naturally there will be some semblance of partisanship. However all councillors are elected as independants, without any official partisan affiliation. Yes of course they may or may not have partisan ties but they do not run under party banner. Other municipalities do have parties Vancouver and Montreal for instance, and even then they are strictly municipal parties with municipal issues geared platforms and ideology. When I recieve my ballot it's just the candidates names and no parties after them, there are no party whips and councillors are not seated by party affiliation and so on and so forth.
Additionally my councillor Mark Grimes (Ward 6 Etobicoke--Lakeshore) is often described by the media as centre right and supports the Mayor a good deal of the time.
I think above all in the Megacity council nine times out of ten the members of the Megacity council will do what they think is best for the constiuents or their respective wards and to an even larger degree what's good for their respective (former) constiuent municipality. If they do otherwise they're out of a job and out on their ass.
Also at least Giambrone owned up to his mistake and quit on his own and in a timely manner after the whole scandal was exposed. The same can't be said about Helena who acted like a petulant child.
One normally checks to make sure one has all the pages of a speech before presenting it.
Or at least that's what I do.
I think he might have been under a little bit of stress at the time. But, if you want to judge him for that, go ahead.
I certainly will, and I think most of the public has as well.
It reflects on his ability to be a leader and handle important matters and crises. If you can't even make sure you have all the pages of your speech ready, you can't exactly make the case that you can run a city.
There is a lack of maturity which concerns Toronto voters. It's the same type of problem that was reflected in the pushups in his office video he posted on YouTube. He is not ready for prime time and he wisely realized that this week.
That video instantly got a face palm from me from the get go, and I'm in that core demographic that he was seeking as his base! Hoodathunkit?? Way too campy for my liking. Well whatddaya know I'm agreeing with Augustus.
Let's make the removal of an industrial waste pollutant and the 500 million cost to taxpayers in Toronto's water supply an election issue. It's called HFSA-an industrial waste pollutant achieved from brushing off the stalks from the phosphate fertilzer industry in Florida and China. Each 40,000 truck load of HFSA carries up to 8lbs of LEAD and 1 lb of ARSENIC. City Council is simply calling it "Fluoride" but this is a GROSS and DECEPTIVE name for what it actually is and why it's being masked in an industrial waste product. Why aren't any of the candidates speaking? Local Environmental and Social Justice groups including the Regenesis project, Citizens for Safe drinking water, Toronto Council of Canadians, and people for the environment have joined on to the Toronto Coalition Against Fluoridation (TCAF) to educate the candidates and their constituents, including a presentation for potential savings to tax payers. They are not talking. Do they think this is a fringe issue that will loose your support? Do they think you lack the intelligence to understand what this issue really means for your health and wasted tax dollars?
Read below.
1. Artificial Water Fluoridation Products are Unregulated, Unapproved, Uncontrolled, and Illegal to Manufacture and Sell in Canada
To date, Health Canada has never regulated or approved the fluoride products used in artificial water fluoridation to ensure that they are safe for Canadians or that they prevent cavities, as claimed.i According to the law, products sold without this regulatory approval cannot be legally sold in Canada. Canadians deserve to be protected by this regulatory approval process. Only this process will ensure quality and security to the millions of Canadians who are exposed to these natural health products in their drinking water. Front Page News: Waterloo Chronicle, April 14, 2010: http://www.waterloochronicle.ca/news/article/207371
2. Artificial Water Fluoridation does not prevent cavities
Fluoridation may not do much for cavities. Globe and Mail April 16, 2010 by Martin Mittelstaedt. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/ontario-fluoride-may-make-minor-difference/article1535873/
New Zealand Health Ministry Finds that Fluoridation Does Not Reduce Tooth Decay. World Dental.org, April 30th, 2010. http://worldental.org/dental-news/health-ministry-finds-that-fluoridation-does-not-reduce-tooth-decay/1300/
This is in agreement with 2 recent reports from the USA presented to Health Canada by National Research Council author Dr. Thiessen: No Benefit - Definite Harm by Dr. Thiessen
The above data is in agreement with 3 very recent studies from Canada:
Swallowing Fluoride Does Not Prevent Cavities1
The above data is in agreement with the historical data:
WHO data
4 North American Trials
50 years later - Kingston-Newburgh Trial
Dean 21 city graph
3. Artificial Water Fluoridation irrefutably causes harm
Even a child knows that you cannot control how much water a person drinks in a day. If you cannot control how much people drink, you cannot control the daily intake of fluoride. The National Research Council 2006 Review of Fluorides in Drinking Water Table 2-4 (http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11571&page=35#p200111b79960035001) shows that susceptible groups consume up to ten times more than the mean; e.g., young children, diabetics, lactating mothers, athletes, construction workers, police, firefighters, and military.
How many people have dental fluorosis?
Fluoride and Dental Fluorosis
How many people have arthritic-like pain due to fluoride?
How many people/children have Irritable Bowel Syndrome or Colic due to fluoride?
How many men are experiencing Infertility due to fluoride?
How many people are experiencing Thyroid or Kidney Derangements due to fluoride?
How many children are experiencing Learning Disabilities due to fluoride exposure?
Fluoride and the Brain
4. Artificial Water Fluoridation wastes taxpayers' money
A recent cost analysis submitted to Toronto city council on March 1, 2010 demonstrates that Toronto taxpayers would generate from $420.7 million to $760.5 million in estimated cost savings over a ten year period if artificial water fluoridation was discontinued. http://gerrycooper.typepad.com/blog/2010/03/a-safe-and-sustainable-toronto.html
It's a conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!
!!! ST. PAUL'S - WARD 21 !!!
ON OCTOBER 25, 2010 VOTE FOR CHANGE!!!
VOTE PETER NOLAN!!!
For more info go to www.votepeternolan.ca
alternatively, search for 'WARD 21 PETER NOLAN' on Facebook
Somehow I don't think a Rob Ford wannabe is going to be getting too much support from either babblers or voters in St. Paul's.
How do we define span? This poster above hasn't posted before or since, and Nolan is a Rob Ford clone.
cross post with his Lordship.
Just so I know: would this be the place to discuss who is running to be a TDSB trustee? I don't want to suffer the wrath of the Republic of Babble. Or, given the length of this one, should I hive off discussion onto a separate thread?
You may as well. I never have a clue who to vote for for school trustee, so any information is a help.
Well, you shouldn't judge a person based on mayoral candidate he supports, and that also does not make that person a clone or a "wannabe". I actually met Peter Nolan. Now, I don't live in Ward 21 but my wife and I were visiting our friends who live in that area, and he happened to canvass that day. Well, I do not mean to promote him or anything. Please don't get me wrong. I always support promising young people and believe they hold the key to the bright future of our city. I believe Peter is one of them, he is a very pleasant and genuine young man who wants to bring changes and not increase the size of his bank account. What I really respect about him is that he is taking time to go door-to-door and meet people face-to-face. Honestly, not every candidate does that and quite frankly, I never met any candidates in front of my door. If you get a chance to meet him in-person, you will see for yourself.
But anyway, I came across this forum because we recently moved to Dupont-Spadina area (Ward 20) and I would like to know more about candidates (other than the incumbent). I would greatly appreciate if anyone could share any information.
It's Adam Vaughan, and he seems to have the whole thing locked up since there is no serious competition from other serious candidates. I looked around at the other candidates, and information is hard to come by. No web sites. No real concept. One of them is a looney right winger -- like way out.
That is about it. Hopefully someone serious will enter at some point.
Closing for length.