Galloway's Canada Ban Won't Be Reviewed....but...
Galloway's Canada Ban Won't Be Reviewed
http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/09/27/mp-galloway-banned-kenney-fe...
"A Federal Court judge says he cannot review Immigration Minister Jason Kenney's decision to bar controversial former British MP George Galloway from Canada. In his ruling released on Monday, Justice Richard Mosley writes that since Galloway never actually tried to enter Canada after being warned the government would not let him in, there isn't much he can do.
However, Mosley, a former Crown Prosecutor, found the decision to prevent Galloway from coming to Canada 'a flawed and overreaching interpretation of the standards under Canadian law for labelling someone as engaging in terrorism or being a member of a terrorist organization..."
and this version - the Toronto Coalition to Stop the War press release
http://www.rabble.ca/news/2010/09/federal-court-slams-government-interfe...
"Galloway and his supporters will announce in the coming days the details of an upcoming tour that will bring Galloway back to Canada.."
I frankly never could care less about "Showboat Galloway". He changed his views/politics and exhibited such bizarre behaviour that any work he did was always suspect.
No showboats in Canada? Is that part of the anti-terrorism effort?
Bullshit.
Double bullshit. I don't care that he is a showboat. This is more of that "champiagn socialist" crap where we are suppose to have some sort of mythical standard. I am tired of playing fair when everone else has an ace up their sleeve or bringing a gun to the NDPs knife fight.
We let the showboat "mission accomplished" non elected war criminal George double ya Bush into the country, but not a guy banned for bringing aid to a near internment camp region . OK good to know where our standards are.
Yea, I'm looking forward to Galloway coming to Canada and ripping a new asshole for every Conservative in sight. I always find whining and crying Conservatives a deeply satisfying sight and there can never be enough of them.
And he reminds us all just how dreary and dull the local pols by comparison - like watching and listening to paint dry
James Clark's analysis of Mosley's decision is a terrific summary of a great and important decision re material support of terrorism: http://www.rabble.ca/news/2010/09/what-galloway-court-decision-means-fre...
Mosley's statements about what is and isn't material support run counter to positions endorsed in the U.S. courts, and that matters a lot. Well done.
'I'm Coming To Get You' George Galloway Tells Jason Kenney
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/im-coming-to-get-you-george...
"I'm coming to get you with my arguments, Mr Kenney,' Galloway said. 'I'm gong to establish either that you're a fool or that you're a knave - in any case, that the people of Canada deserve better than you..
At the time, Mr Kenney did say publicly, 'I believe folks that are supporting and promoting and helping terrorist organizations are not needed to visit Canada.'
Mr Galloway said the terrorist allegations had proven extremely damaging. Not only did they cost him his long-held seat in the British House of Commons in May, he said, they also put him in personal danger, hampered his ability to travel and placed him and his family under anxiety and stress.."
CTV should sponsor a George Galloway invasion of the House of Commons, and call it a "cage match" or something. Anyone who has heard Galloway speak would line up to hear him verbally demolish pipsqueaks like Jason Kenney or Stevie-boy Harper.
Bring it on!
Yea, I think Galloway still has his regular radio show. It would be interesting to listen to him take on some of the talk radio flyweights on this side of the Atlantic.
Hell, he could give seminars and help build a whole "left wing talk radio" movement. Ferocity 101.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1532509206579317476# Nuff said
So?
So? Right that's normal...Ok
Probably more normal than you would like to believe. In anycase if the best you can do for supporting your assertion that the Canadian Government should have the right to ban Galloway from entering the country is because he appeared on tasteless British celebrity TV show where he was obliged to behave in a bizarre manner, I think I should remind you that Hitler's primary objection to modern art was that artists who paint "skies green and ground blue" should be banned, and that your objection is more or less along that line.
To wit: Is dressing up in a cat suit an behaving like a cat evidence of material support for terrorism?
Precisely. Unlike our own white-cat no difference party, who continue to give 'material support for terrorism' by supporting Israeli apartheid, Galloway has brought aid and support to those victims of ongoing Zionist war crimes and oppression. And since you like Galloway vids, here he is being anything but a pussycat..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk
I don't believe I said what you imply cueball. My thing with Galloway is that he is a friggin clown. I have no respect for this blowhard and do not see him as a person with much integrity. That said his being a silly twit should never have stopped him from entering Canada and all those who want to hear a man, who pretends he is a cat on public TV, can certainly do so. I will be picking my nose that evening.
I would have that that freedom of speech and banning popular political figures because of their views would be more engaging for an astute and intellectually engaged person such as yourself, as opposed to youtube clips of odd performances on silly TV programs. But then again, some people read books on political theory, others think that their time is better spent picking their nose while reading celebrity gossip columns and watching celebrity blooper clips on youtube.
It is all a matter of ones priorities I suppose.
I think Galloway has the right to speak, and so long as he breaks no Canadian laws through said speech (such as incitement), he should be able to tour here and say whatever he wants. His right to free speech is more important in my mind than anything he might have to say.
Can't disagree with Uncle John. But some people are more enamoured with spending their waking ours finding celebrity blooper Youtube clips to consider such nuances of what democracy is all about.
Sorry cueball, the cat thing is something that just gives me the willies. Sorry but there is no coming back from that. Each to his own cueball. I will defend your right to enjoy catman Galloway. I promise.
In Turkey Youtube is banned because it is sometimes used to defame the "Great Turk". But most pimply faced Youtube fans don't often think about such things, so I was a little bit surprised when one showed up here, saw a thread on Galloway being banned by the federal government and actually decided to comment. What didn't surprise me was that the important thing that came to mind for him was not the infringement on the right to freedom of speech, which he said nothing about, but the wacky thing he saw about Galloway on Youtube.
Here is a guy who does a routine survey of wacky things you can see on the internet, maybe you will like him: Raywilliamjohnson.
I have seen the youtube clip of George Galloway and while I sympathize with the fact that Galloway should not be kept out of Canada, his antics are childish and boorish. He is a pompous ass who despite his perceived good works, does so in such a manner that at least i am turned off.
There is unquestionably a free speech issue here but jtleroy is also right when he points to Galloway as a total oddball whose ridiculous behaviour often does harm to the issues he tries to champion.
No one could disagree with the comment that Galloway is an oddball rather some just dislike that this fact was brought up in this thread
George Galloway's behaviour is very disturbing and should be discussed here. I am not sure why Cueball would try to derail it. Surely the man's credibility has some importance. If he is seen as deranged who would pay attention to his message no matter how important or sincere?
If Canada can let a war criminal like Dubya,a mentally ill trouble making pundit like Ann Coulter or the hopelessly moronic Sarah Palin cross our border,why can't we let in a member of the British Parliament?
Oh yeah,he sends a dissenting voice that can contradict the whole conservative cause.
Harpie's Heroes only likes opinions and speeches by the people they strive to emulate...War criminals,sociopaths,liars,racists,fascists and morons....And anything else Faux News worthy.
The guy appeared on a silly TV program where contestants were asked to do silly and embarrassing things. George did those embarrassing and silly things. The derailment here is trying to turn a discussion about freedom of speech and the government's right to persecute opinions that they do not like by interfering in the activities of immigration officials, whose activities are meant to be dealt with at arms length from the political views of the government, by discussing Mr. Galloway's appearance on a popular TV game show.
Georges appearance on this TV program, or what he did on that program, did not appear in the crowns brief on the defense of the government action. Indeed the court rule in favour of Mr. Galloway on all points, except one, which was a legal technicality based on the fact that Mr. Galloway, after being intimidated by letters from the immigration department, did not actually try and seek entry to Canada. Other than that, the judge entirely sided with Mr. Galloway.
The fact that some commenter here think that the most important thing to discuss in this case, is not government interference in the due process of the immigration department, but a ridiculous Youtube clip featuring Mr. Galloway, speaks not to the detriment of Mr. Galloway, but to the detriment of the critical capacity of those who think that a short appearance on a TV game show is worthy of discussion.
We are supposed to take seriously the opinions of those who are less interested in the interference of the work of immigration officials and due process by the government, than they are in a discussion about celebrity gossip, and you would not have me come to the conclusion that such a set of priorities is an indication of derangement far beyond anything Mr. Galloway did on that TV program.
'THE youtube clip'? Youtube lists 'about 5,650 videos for Mr.Galloway, of which I'll guess some 99% document his decades-long involvement with progressive forces in the Middle East as well as in his own country.
But you want to talk about a cat.
'Perceived good works'? Like that Viva Palestina convoy, that splashed Israel's crimes all over the international press and brought substantial material aid to the imprisoned Palestinians of Gaza? Those kind of 'perceived' good works?
Perhaps you will be more comfortable in the 'jokes' threads, in babble banter?
There are some people here who seem very touchy about anyone who brings uop Galloway's credibility problem. And no wonder he has a GIANT credibility problem.
I also take umbrage with those who put words in my mouth. Where did I ever say that Catman Galloway's silly antics takes presedence over the free speech issue? I brought up his credibility as part of the honest discussion going on here.
So keep plugging away at my credibility Cueball. Fine by me, since I never went on any publicly broadcasted television show and purred, licked and meowed like a cat for millions to see.