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You take umbrage at that? Hard to figure out why persons might not be aware of your professed position on freedom of speech when your introductory comment was not a comment but a link to a Youtube clip without comment. Indeed the only time you brought up free speech was when some people called you on your priorities.
In the light of that the fact that you later professed an interest in freedom speech seem pro forma, as opposed to heartfelt. Indeed, in my view "democrats" would be outraged by the freedom of speech issue to such and extent that Mr. Galloway's antics would seem irrelevant, and hardly worth considering in the greater scheme of things.
For someone who has taken an interest in pursuing very minute details of the activities of Mr. Galloway, you would think that you would apply similar precision in your own commentary and perhaps mention your support for the right to freedom of speech, in a thread about freedom of speech, without being pressed to do so.
Presed to do so? Don't think so. And cannot help but observe how obseesed you are with the fact that I brought up Galloway's dalliances as a kitty cat. Had you not continued to challenge my right to do so I suspect it would have ended there. But you seem to have this irritating thing where you have to have the last word. So please go ahead but understand I brought up Galloway's credibility problem. It was a legitimate part of the debate no matter how hard you may wish to diminish it.
I didn't bring up the cat video. Indeed we have had plenty of discussion about the cat video. I actually watched the whole show! This happened several years ago. Get up to speed. The world of Youtube oddities is a wonderful place. All kinds of fun, and sometimes gruesome things there.
This thread however is about the repression of freedom of speech, not Celebrity Big Brother. If you are really interested in rehashing the Celebrity Big Brother show, you might want to start a thread about it, since you seem interested. However, for me, that is done to death.
You seem to be trying to assert that the right to freedom of speech is somehow predicated upon your personal opinion of someones credibility? Perhaps you are suggesting that people who can be shown to appear on freak shows have less right to freedom of speech? Are you saying that dressing up in a cat suit on TV is somehow related to the government decision ot ban Galloway?
Is that it? What is your position, exactly. It is very hard to tell.
harper hates liberals. why? liberals are, by design, inoffensive almost to a point where a lefty such as i want a baseball bat-
not for them but for the frenetic boors who always argueing for harper (see jon oakley/ryan doyle/mike coren/mike stafford/
charles adler, dave agar, jimmy richards etc) ...just the fact George Galloway is one of OURS should pre-empt time spent criticising him on Babble when
...turn on ANY talkradio in GTA and get a earful of 'he's a commie who loves muslim terrorists and a moral danger to our children' etc
I'm looking forward to George's broadcast. Let Conservatives, bigots, rascists, and other misanthropes tremble. It's like werewolves hearing about silver bullets and wooden stakes. BLAM! Ya gotta love it.
Maybe the opposition parties could get together and invite Galloway to speak to Parliament on the subject of freedom of speech. It really seems that the current bunch of Conservative neaderthals need a lesson. Badly.
Kick. their. asses. George.
The thread is ostensibly about Galloway and the Court decision. That leaves a wide berth as is evidenced by the discussion here.
Look I understand how embarassing it is for Galloway's disciples to have to deal with this issue but as I try to impress upon you credibility means much.
Now despite your most sincere attempts to lump me in with those who want to stop GG at the border, that was never my position. Even silly people who lack any credibility have the right to free speech.
Apparently - you're here posting.
At the risk of being accused of making a spelling flame, I believe that's spelled "George" Galloway.
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A few weeks ago I took over the time slot of another show's host. I played an Alternative Radio program byGeorge Galloway. I find his honest speaking style refreshing. Smilin' Jack should take lessons.
So the entire extent of your critique of Mr. Galloway is based on a 90 second clip of him dressed in costume and play acting?
How very "deep".
What about this:
Is Stephen Harper actually a cowboy? I thought he was a kid from Etobicoke?
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/10/02/galloway-canada.html#ixzz11FKhscsl
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/10/02/galloway-canada.html
Yay! Jason Kenney and con gang thwarted.
Yes... yes... but what was he wearing when he entered Canada?
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I just love the way you make up what I feel and say. What an over-active and mischivious imagination you have. And as for the above picture as obscene as it is , at least he is not in a cat costume licking some poor woman's arm.
The "poor" woman is one of the co-contestants on the game show. Do you actually know anything about the history of that clip or how it came into existance? Is your personal disgust at the activity you see there the sum total of your views on Galloway's position on Israel?
You object to me putting words in your mouth. If you chose to actually say what you mean, or intend to imply, or explain how the above clip relates to the substance of anything that Galloway has said, or believes there might be less need to try and fathom what it is you are trying to say. It seems you have a problem with cat suits and arm licking. Anything else?
George Galloway Comes out Swinging After Arriving in Canada
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/george-galloway-comes-out-s...
"A defiant George Galloway says he may take another run at legal action against Immigration Minister Jason Kenney for branding him a terrorist and trying to muzzle his anti-war views.."
Well this has all been entertaining, but I need to step in with my mod hat on.
jtleroy, you think Galloway's appearance in the YouTube clip was embarrassing / undignified / etc, and that it makes him unfit for any serious political consideration. You've made that point abundantly clear.
Cueball and others disagree.
Since this thread is about Galloway's visit to Canada (he's speaking in Toronto this afternoon) I need to request that this back-and-forth about his "lack of credibility" be dialed back. It's getting tiresome, it's off topic and we did have this discussion on babble months ago when Galloway was denied entry.
Enough. Back on topic please.
Actually its not me with a problem; its Galloway. I will be damned if I can figure out why you feel this need to defend his appearance on this program. It is what it is and folks will take away their own conclusions.
Haven't you been told yet? I think so. If you have nothing else to say then your ridicules BS don't post anymore in this thread.
That video might be silly or embarrassing, but Galloway's presence on the Iranian government's Press TV, where he has a regular show (called "real deal") to cheer the oppressive practices of a fascistic regime is nothing short of criminal. How does Galloway sleep at night knowing that he receives a paycheck from a murderous dictatorship that has sent hundreds of journalists and students alone to jail over the past year, often for no crime other than reporting on human right abuses? But looking back at Galloway's record with uday Hussein and all, I guess he never found a paying dictator he didn't like!
Galloway and Iranian election and democracy (on the Iranian government's Presstv):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgdTcKdt1rg
Iranian students protest Galloway at House of Common
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G145NbP5pP4
Details: http://azarmehr.blogspot.com/2010/03/galloway-begged-police-to-detain-us...
I am not defending Galloway here, I am attacking you for being a prig. I thought it was silly and stupid. People can be silly and stupid personally, and that has nothing to do with wether or not their position on Israel's is right or wrong. They can even make mistakes! Gosh! Of course the show creators were going to do everything in their power to put Galloway in the most compromising position possible, in order to discredit him. Indeed, I watched that whole program, and what I found most disturbing about Galloway was that basically on a personal level I found him to be a great big bore who has trouble relating to people outside of the niche of a socialist political moral framework.
I found him tedious.
Have you ever cracked a joke that no one else thought was funny? Ever cracka joke at all?
Actually, come to think of it, I rather think the spectacle of a 50 something member of parliament being game enough to take on the challenge of appearing like a total jack-ass on television to be a bit of a scream, and an excelent commentary on the pretentious and uptight institution of the British parliament.
Didn't Ed Braodbent make snow angels with Rick Mercer on This Hour has 22 Minutes?
I couldn't agree more with Cueball. George galloway, who I saw last year by video is a bore. Where I agree with jtleroy is that integrity remains important especially if you are delivering an ethical or moral message. Unfortunately in Mr. Galloway's case you have a person with questionable integrity, questionable ethical values and a bore delivering an important message. It's really too bad.
I've only seen Galloway clips a few times but they never seemed boring to me. I think Cueball's point was not that he is a bore, but that he becomes a bore when removed from his element: political activism and speaking.
As for his integrity and morals, they've always seemed exemplary from the little I know. Maybe some of the detractors here can elaborate on this? (somebody rational, that is, not jtleroy talking about game shows as if they were significant)
Personally, I think of myself as a person of considerable morality and integrity, yet I am hesitant to match myself against a man who defies a military blockade to deliver aid to oppressed people. If you have problems with Galloway's integrity, I assume they must be quite substantial to overshadow this and other actions that are clearly admirable, so it's strange to me that nobody has mentioned them yet. What are these concerns? let's hear them.
:applause:
Galloway's Toronto talk is on the rabble front page links and is well worth a look/listen:
http://www.rabble.ca/rabbletv/program-guide/2010/10/features/george-gall...
I don't know; a person who happily receives a paycheck by a fascist dictatorship to regularly defend the arrest and torture of thousands of human right activists, journalists and students on that regime's mouthpiece (Iranian Press tv), does not quite seem like a man of morality and integrity to me. But I guess we may have different standards.
From time to time, I too feel this jolt of nostalgia for the good times of the Shah and the Savak.
They say the Shah paid well for western journalists who wrote favourable pieces about him. With a talent in kissing torturers' bottoms, Galloway would have made a fortune back then.
Didn't all that crap about Galloway getting payola from Hussien proven to be a bunch of crap. He went in front of a senate sub-comittee and roasted them, as far as I remember it.
George Galloway is a total embarrassment. How can anyone support this lunatic? His TV show owned and financed by Press TV ergo The "Islamic Republic of Iran"- a country that since its "Islamic revolution" in 1979 has been able to move back into the 7th century in only 30 years. Imagine what Irans leaders- ooops dictators can do in the next thirty years. Welcome the dinosaur age!
Back to Galloway: There is one good thing that Mr. Galloway does- he is like the bug killer RAID! When you spray GALLOWAY in a room the bugs come out and the world gets to see just exactly who is behind the lunacy that refers to the only "genuine democracy" in the Middle East as "Apartheid"- as if any Professional Israel Basher has the intellect to understand the definition of "Apartheid" or the fact that "Palestine" is a myth created inorder to demonize Jews- the indegenous people of Israel ergo "Palestina" and deligitmize the State of Israel. Well take heed if you read Hamas'- PLO Charter it states clearly that "There is no room for a Jewish state in an Islamic Middle East"! Really- I thought that this was about "Palestine" and "Palestinians" - many of whom are not only 'Muslim" but are also "Christian" - "Athiest"- and even .... oy.. Gay"..."GAY"! Oh oh...QAIA -Gazdzooks these "turkeys" (QAIA) are invited to a Thanks Giving Dinner in "Gaza" and dont know that they are the main course!
Not only dont "Professional Israel Bashers" not know the definition of "Apartheid" - ( hint:road signs in Saudi Arabia that say this way for 'believers" and that way for "unbelievers') but to "Professional Israel Bashers" - who never saw a map of the British Mandate of "Palestine"- "Palestine" is only the smallest part of "Palestine"- ( Israel is 20,000 sq km in size) where Jews live and not the largest part of 'Palestine"( 110,000 sq km of "Palestine" ergo Jordan- Southern Syria- Lebanon) where Arabs live and where over 2000,000 "Palestinians" are kept in refuge camps - and denied citizenship by their "Arab brethren" in the territory known as "Palestine"!
But hey since when does a "Professional Israel Basher" ever care about objective fact !
They "demonize" Israel and justify it by suggesting that they are acting in the interests of 'Human Rights"- ergo "Palestinian rights"- yet they are 100% silent to the fact that some 450,000 Palestinians - citizens of Kuwait since well before 1947- have been brutally raped- tortured - murdered and finally ETHNICALLY CLEANSED between 1990- 2010.
Today there are less than 10,000 Palestinians left in Kuwait. When questioned about this "genuine" example of "ethnic cleansing " and Genocide" the "Professional Israel Basher " conveniently looks the other way. You know why? Because, like the leaders( tyraants) of Sudan who commit an ongoing Genocide in Darfur, the leaders of Kuwait happen not to be Jewish! And of course because they are not a "Democracy" and are a Theocracy" that governs with impunity as they have not signed on to the Human Race!
In the words of "Palestinian Author and Columnist
Khalid Amayreh
"Kuwait had the right to do it. Palestinians belong to Palestine not to Kuwait" because " every Arab country has the right to expel Palestinians".