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Thanks for the links guys...Sent it around to those I could.
Here's a Quote from the link:
He billed his rally as being "for people who are politically dissatisfied but who are not ideological". (Democracy Now, November 1, 2010) Really, Jon? You have no ideology? To those who like to tell themselves and others that they don't have any particular ideology I say this: If you have thoughts about why the world is the way it is, why society is the way it is, why people are the way they are, what a better way would look like, and if your thoughts are fairly well organized, then that's your ideology, even if it's not wholly conscious as such.
Well i saw the whole 3 hour rally and there was a lot of Show-Bobazoo. First 1h introduction by the roots and mythbusters. Then Colbert-like impro theatre and giving out Awards.A huge Colbert-Puppet. And finally Jon's speech. Which essentially came down to the metaphor of people organizing traffic in the holland(?) tunnel. So "working together" might be the ideology.
Here's the link(the speech should be somewhere in the 3rd hour):
http://c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/10/30/HP/A/40153/StewartColbert+Rally...
If you're going to have a rally..., you might as well make it about something
He was speaking with Rachel Maddow a few days ago, and it wasn't very pretty. Jon Stewart clearly showed he was a centrist. All his talk about doing something is great, but what does he actually do?
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/11/12/5452792-which-way-to-th...
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/jon-stewart-stands-by-c...
Not a big fan anymore. Anyone who equates the right with the left is delusional. There is no real left in America.
The other thing that needs to be pointed out is that while Stewart and Colbert laugh at the antics of the right and whine about how crazy things are, it's the right wing that is accomplishing stuff. What have Stewart and Colbert ever done?
Good point. Even in their lopsided political spectrum. Their 'moderate left' is somewhere close to harper. While their right, nevermind the tea party is like ...a stockwell day-jason kenny-maxime bernier hybrid of racism combined with creationist pro military libertarianism.
Colbert took the high road and didn't mention it it. Stewart had a "what did I do" 5 minute part and couldn't understand how equating maddow and obberman with the likes of tucker carlson, beck, and ann coulter are even close or the same thing.
Even their extreme left is hardly left at all. But he says they all lie. From what I have seen the right makes outright lies like he shows on his program, but he can't find anything but general outrage about the right coming form the left. But somehow that is the same thing in his world. I guess he forgets where he came from.
Just like asshole dennis miller. I would love to have a conversation with this overstuffed purple prose narcissist.
I'm watching Middle East expert Bill Maher commenting on the Tunisian situation. He just said there are better ways to foment revolt in the Arab world than invading their countries. I guess he doesn't realise that most Arab dictatorships, including the late-Tunisian junta, are US clients.
Good grief; now he's talking about how the Tunisians wear jeans and leather jackets, while most Arab men wear dresses.
Bill Maher interviewed Egyptian journalist Mona Eltahawy on the most recent program, and along with the Republican yahoos on the show, couldn't take his head out of his anti-Muslim rectum, and spewed ignorance while calling it "reality."
Ms. Eltahawy, when she was allowed to speak by this blowhard, handed him his bigotted ass on a platter.
anti- Muslim or anti religious?
His own background is Catholic/ Jewish. He certainly doesnt spare either Christians or Jews in his film Religulous. You provide no links or quotes so I'll have to check it out and get back to you.
It doesnt make a person a bigot to be an atheist.
Check out what he says about Arabs, who can be Jews, Christians, Muslims, atheists, Baha'is, Zoroastrians, etc. He doesn't make such distinctions, but lumps them in with "Muslims."
Sorry, he reserves special treatment for the turbanned horde.
Yes, and his comments have very little to do with Islam and everything to do with Arab (indistinguishible from Persian, Pashtun, Berber, etc) cultural codes he and the West considers strange/scary/different/inscrutable. cf. "most Arab men wear dresses," etc.
Like hell. The only time he became visibly angry was with the Rabbi from the anti-Israel sect. He actually walked out of his own interview. However, the fanatical Jewish settlers from New York who think that Palestine belongs to them didn't rate a mention.
uhhh... what?
ummm.... thanks?
Jon Stewart spent the weekend in Kandahar, sucking up to the military, and so naturally his show tonight (Monday) was nothing more than crass war propaganda.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/02/lawrence-odonnell-socialist-mah...
Maher and O'Donnell don't have clue 1 what socialism is.
I didn't know you could and be on MSM in the US, bu at least they are using the word
They are giving socialism a bad name. Socialism is not about government subsidies to agribusiness to manipulate market prices. Nor is it about the perks that the system gives to the rich.
Socialism and capitalism are not like salt and pepper shakers that you can sprinkle on a society in varying degrees and come up with just the perfect flavour. They are irreconcilably opposed systems of society, economy, and government.
What do you expect him to do read "Das Kapital" on the air?
What about this guy's arguments?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt7urGdlr_Y
Why don't you go post your libertarian shit somewhere else?
Well seeing as neither system exists in a pure form anywhere, I think the salt and pepper shaker analogy is pretty accurate. I d say it describes the reality on the ground and how the two systems are blended in most places - certainly better than the "battle of the teen titans" mythology.
Speaking of which, I heard things didn't go so well on the Hang Seng today. Bummer.
Neat!
On the other hand, do you think a tea partier would call it capitalism?
How about this?
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Asia/Story/A1Story20100304-20239...
You are an angry one aren't you? I just wondered what you thought of his definitions of socialism! No need to be so exclusive. So you think the welfare state is not socialist, what is is then? Like Smith said I don't think the Tea Party would agree with you. Why don't we just campaign to get rid of it then, EI while we are it?
Here. here.
Did a little scan of this guys posts. A lot of out of (or barely in) context posts linking to right wing crap.
Hey, everybody, remember when "Racialist" was on this board? I looked up "Racialist" as a term and it was used by people like David Duke
I mention that only in passing.
Does anybody know what the Know Nothing movement was in US History? Well here you go:
The Know Nothing movement was a nativist American political movement of the 1840s and 1850s. It was empowered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by German and Irish Catholic immigrants, who were often regarded as hostile to Anglo-Saxon Protestant values and controlled by the Pope in Rome. Mainly active from 1854 to 1856, it strove to curb immigration and naturalization, though its efforts met with little success. Membership was limited to Protestant males of British lineage over the age of 21. There were few prominent leaders, and the largely middle-class and entirely Protestant membership fragmented over the issue of slavery.
The movement originated in New York in 1843 as the American Republican Party. It spread to other states as the Native American Party and became a national party in 1845. In 1855 it renamed itself the American Party.[1] The origin of the "Know Nothing" term was in the semi-secret organization of the party. When a member was asked about its activities, he was supposed to reply, "I know nothing."[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
So, is that where your name comes from knownothing ?
Hey.... we flushed out another one. Go fetch a rope Clem. I'll get my horse and gun and meet you by the tree.
Strange how none of these right wing assholes thinks that hedge fund managers and bankers making all the decisions about the economy is a type of central planning. The IMF has been imposing its ideology on country after country in the world but that isn't central planning it is just the market being freed from the fetters of democracy.