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Bradley Manning and Wikileaks

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M. Spector
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So his great crime was releasing "meaningless unrelated" documents?

At this point, the death penalty would be a more humane prospect than the alternative Manning faces - being driven insane and tortured for the rest of his life.

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If another country were meting out similarly sadistic treatment to a captured American POW, the Pentagon and the American media would be howling about war crimes. But Manning's treatment has been largely blacked out of the corporate-controlled mass media.

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politicalnick
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M. Spector wrote:

So his great crime was releasing "meaningless unrelated" documents?

No, his big crime was catching the yanks with their pants down and exposing them to the world as duplicitous arrogant SOB's. The document release is all they have an actual law against.


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How the So-Called Guardians of Free Speech Are Silencing the Messenger  - by John Pilger

http://www.zcommunications.org/how-the-so-called-guardians-of-free-speec...

"Reality is no longer what the powerful say it is. Of all the spectacular revolts across the world, the most exciting is the insurrection of knowledge sparked by WikiLeaks. The heroic Bradley Manning is kept naked under lights and cameras 24 hours a day. Greg Barns, director of the Australian Lawyers Alliance, says the fears that Julian Assange will 'end up being tortured in a high security American prison', are justified. Who will take responsibility for such a crime?"


M. Spector
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politicalnick wrote:

M. Spector wrote:

So his great crime was releasing "meaningless unrelated" documents?

No, his big crime was catching the yanks with their pants down and exposing them to the world as duplicitous arrogant SOB's. The document release is all they have an actual law against.

Perhaps you could explain to us all how Manning could have exposed the imperialists without releasing any documents.

Perhaps you could also explain how Manning could have violated his oath of secrecy without breaking any laws.

Perhaps you could explain why he's facing a possible death penalty and the certainty of torture for the rest of his life, if all he did illegally was release "meaningless unrelated documents".

Margaret Kimberley, quoted above, in describing one of the "meaningless unrelated" documents that Manning released, wrote:

Among the files which Manning allegedly leaked is a video showing American soldiers shooting a Reuters photographer and his driver, and an innocent bystander and his young children, and then laughing as an already dead body is crushed by an armored vehicle. The soldiers also enjoy themselves. They are positively gleeful about committing murder, laughing at their victims and pleading with their superiors to allow them to kill more people.

Perhaps you could explain why your overriding concern for the supposed unlawfulness of Manning's actions in releasing these documents trumps his heroism in doing so?

Or, perhaps you can't.


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Shoe Drops, Boot Comes Out for Crowley  -  by Chris Floyd

http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/2102-...

"...it was very obvious that Crowley's days were numbered, for he scarcely lasted more than a day before the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate forced him from office for the high crime of causing the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate to face the minimal discomfort of having to publicly address his torture of an American soldier.."


politicalnick
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@M Spector

I believe you have made a few assumptions about my position and misinterpreted my statement which was supossed to be somewht sarcastic.

As I understand it a lot of the documents may have been unrelated to the issue of torture and US cooperation in torture but that in no way minimizes the wrongness of the american complicity in human rights infringements.

Sure he broke a few written laws and an oath but the extent of the bad treatment and the vilification of him by the US government is directly related to their embarrassment at being caught involved in illegal and inhumane activities.

I actually believe his heroism in making a stand against the immoral actions of his government far outwieghs the criminality of his actions. I support what he did and hope that there are more like him out there. 


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In our Big Brother security state the military says they do it for Manning's own protection.  It's a lie that does not pass the straight face test.  Once again lies become truth as a compliant press writes it down and reports it as fact. The president re-enforces the lie, telling America he has talked to the Pentagon and they have said it is for his own protection. The president says this with a straight face.

Does anyone believe the president anymore? This is the president that told us - America doesn't torture.  This is the president who said that Raymond Davis was a diplomat who deserved diplomatic immunity.  In fact, he was a Blackwater mercenary working for the CIA who allegedly killed two Pakistanis. The president's comments to the press were dutifully reported "he is a diplomat who deserves diplomatic immunity" when the press knew he was working for the CIA. The press had been told to lie to us, not tell us the truth and they did as the government demanded until a foreign newspaper told the truth. The president and the press need to lie to us because the truth is terrifying.

Friends - we are here today because we know - we are all Bradley Manning.  That a crime against one of us is a crime against all of us.  We need to stand together, to Stand with Brad, because this is much bigger than Bradley Manning.

We are living through a time of revolutionary change.  We see it around the world and we see it around the nation.  The corporate-government-media does not report the resistance occurring throughout the nation because if Americans knew that their fellow Americans were standing up against corporate-government, real change, shifting power to the people, would be more likely.

And the corporate media is threatened by what Bradley Manning is accused of.  They are losing hold of their monopoly on information as WikiLeaks shows the way to the democratization of the media.  We are living through the birth of a new media that will shift the power of information control from the few to the many.  Information is a commodity that the corporate-government has sought to control because they know information is power.  But in this new media age we can all be reporters, writers, commentators.  Through email, blogs, websites and social media each of us can share information.  We all can become part of the new media.

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Outlook For the New Year  - by Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2011/12/31/the-outlook-for-the-new-year/

"...In other words, Manning gave the world the truth of a war crime that was being covered up, and Washington and the Pentagon regard a truth teller doing his duty under the US military code as an 'abuser of trust'."

 


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