The Fracking BC Liberals are Sucking Us Dry

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Who are you to demand anything from anyone. Strutting about silencing anyone who dares to dispute your extremism? Self-important prat.

Roscoe wrote:

Who are you to demand anything from anyone. Strutting about silencing anyone who dares to dispute your extremism? Self-important prat.

Be quiet, you pernicious pipsqueak! Silence, say I! Your speech is no longer to our taste! Open your mouth only to hold your tongue! What insipid incivility. My word!

Roscoe wrote:

'Progressives' never want to discuss the fact that without the productivity oil products like fuel and fertiliser have created, 40% of the world's population will starve.

Just because I'm not an extremist  or a muser of  abstract circular theory without even a modest effort at finding solutions does not mean I don't have a progressive interest in poverty reduction, affordable housing, equality or a host of other progressive issues.

I guess it is your language throughout many of your posts that talks of other progressive voices in dismissive tones that confused me.

I talk to those who misrepresent and twist my words in dismissive tones Misrepresentations like: "Your bullshit that the shale oil process can be done without seriously harming the ecology and the people of the area is mindless corporate propaganda".

Tell me in three or four decades when the crack cocaine revenue stream is gone what is going to pay for the social services?  Tell me how this industry can be well regulated when government has less inspectors now with more wells?  Tell me who will pay the families compensation for the inevitable increases in cancer rates among people who will receive no direct benefit from the wells?

And tell me again how helping the poor can only be done through destroying the province and funnelling money through the coffers of multinational oil companies?

Here is a link to an "extremist" website and Ben says it better than I can.  Your bullshit that the shale oil process can be done without seriously harming the ecology and the people of the area is mindless corporate propaganda.  

Ben's bullshit sensationalises data without any attempt at relevance in order to fearmonger to the uninformed. Similar to his phony 2920 olympic swimming pools of water bullshit.

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Early last year, an army of workers at a remote natural gas operation in northern British Columbia set a world record for hydraulic fracturing or “fracking,” a procedure that is rapidly becoming the norm in the global gas industry.
 
They pumped nearly 400 Olympic swimming pools worth of water along with 500,000 kilograms of sand underground to fracture deeply buried shale rock, thereby releasing its trapped gas.
 
As fracking becomes more common, people living in natural gas-rich northeast BC are increasingly alarmed over the associated public health and safety risks.
 
The pressure at which water, sand and undisclosed chemicals is pumped belowground is so intense that it triggers tiny earthquakes. In using such brute force, unforeseen and unwelcome problems can — and do — surface elsewhere, problems that may include dangerous releases of gas containing hydrogen sulphide, also known as sour gas.
 
Long before fracking arrived on the scene, the health threats posed by chronic exposure to sour gas with low levels of hydrogen sulphide were well known and ran the gamut from irritated eyes to miscarriages. But it was the uncontrolled releases of gas containing 300 parts per million or more of hydrogen sulphide that filled people living in BC’s Peace River region with dread. Such releases killed or seriously injured industry workers; caused deaths, birth defects or miscarriages in cattle; forced people to abandon their homes by dead of night; and led at least one school district to station buses outside an elementary school in case sour gas escaped from a nearby well site, forcing an emergency evacuation.
 
These and other uncomfortable realities of living in the heart of BC’s natural gas development zone recently prompted a local citizens group — the Peace Environment and Safety Trustees Society (PESTS) — to call upon the provincial government to launch a formal inquiry under BC’s Health Act to delve into the health risks associated with sour gas. The justification for such an inquiry was laid out in chilling detail with the assistance of Calvin Sandborn, at the University of Victoria’s Environmental Law Clinic, and Tim Thielmann, an environmental lawyer.

 

http://www.policyalternatives.ca/publications/commentary/fracking-oil-no...

Ben's bullshit sensationalises data without any attempt at relevance in order to fearmonger to the uninformed. Similar to his phony 2920 olympic swimming pools of water bullshit.

Roscoe wrote:

I see you have foregone consensus in favour of the royal 'we'. I am not surprised.

Ok, insults to me are one thing, but injury to the vernacular is over the line. "Foregone", if it means anything, means "gone before", as in "foregone conclusion". Doing without, or abandoning something, is spelled "forgone", by monarchs and commoners alike.

 

Ah! the grammar police. Mea culpa. A spelling error to be sure. My intent was the use of forgone as the past participle of forgo.

Get thee to a nunnery! Why wouldst thou be a breeder of sinners?

 

Shakespeare or Python?

 

Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrow of outrageous fortune or Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of old elderberries.

Ah! the grammar police. Mea culpa. A spelling error to be sure. My intent was the use of forgone as the past participle of forgo.

Published on Thursday, March 31, 2011 by ProPublica
Pennsylvania Limits Authority of Oil and Gas Inspectors
by Abrahm Lustgarten, ProPublica

Oil and gas inspectors policing Marcellus Shale development in Pennsylvania will no longer be able to issue violations to the drilling companies they regulate without first getting the approval of top officials.

That’s according to a directive laid out in a series of emails received by the Department of Environmental Protection staff last week and leaked to ProPublica. The emails say the new edict applies only to enforcement actions related to Marcellus Shale drilling and that failure to seek prior approval “will not be acceptable.”....

A Chinese group is making a $1-billion bet on coal in British Columbia to secure a key raw material for its steel making industry, the latest in a series of moves this year by international companies to stake a claim on Canadian resources.

A consortium of Chinese companies, including Shougang Group, one of the country's top steel makers, plans to develop three underground coal mines in northeastern B.C., a region rich with coal that fell on hard times in the 1990s but is now booming again.

 

They have the fiscal resources already in place to do it," said Mr. Bell, who met with executives at Shougang and other consortium partners in Beijing this week on a trade mission to the country. "It's a very big deal."

Shougang's move to take a direct position in Canadian mines represents a new chapter in the push among the world's steel makers to secure long-term supply of the commodities that go into making steel. The strategy is to lessen dependence on mining companies, especially as commodity prices rise.

As the decade progresses, British Columbia will surpass Alberta's natural gas production, thanks to its massive Horn River and Montney reservoirs and vast areas of undrilled land for conventional gas production.

"B.C. is largely undrilled. In Alberta, we will be running out of drillable locations," Howard said.

Alberta's gas production is currently about 10 billion cubic feet per day (bcf/d), but that will slide to eight billion bcf/day over the next 20 years. B.C. will double its production to surpass that during the period.

The Asian market is the world's largest LNG customer, with South Korea's state-owned Korea Gas Corp., which has a monopoly on domestic gas sales, reporting that its 2010 LNG purchases surged 26.6 percent to 31.20 million metric tons.

On a smaller scale, a U.S.-based partnership has become the second contender to export LNG from the British Columbia.

BC LNG Export Co-operative filed an application with the National Energy Board to initially convert up to 125 million cubic feet per day of natural gas into 900,000 metric tons of LNG annually, with shipments starting in 2013 to a variety of Asian countries, including Japan. The proposal allows for a doubling of capacity by at a later date.

The export point would be in the Douglas Channel of northern British Columbia, close to a planned Kitimat LNG terminal.

The new project would be operated by Douglas Channel Energy Partnership which is indirectly owned by LNG Partners, a closely held Delaware limited liability company based in Houston.

BTW, I'm also a Dan Miller New Democrat:

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VICTORIA -- The New Democrats engaged in a courtship with the oil and gas industry back in 1998 when they announced some major incentives for development and exploration.
 
Government had been taking the sector for granted for too long, conceded then-premier Glen Clark. "Clearly we can do better."
 
He offered reductions in royalty rates of up to 40 per cent, aimed at encouraging the industry to drill new wells.
 
Subsidies? Giveaways to big business? Not at all, explained Dan Miller, then energy minister. "Incentives.".....    
...."It was the New Democrats who really kicked off the oil and gas sector in the northeast of this

Yeah. The Dan Miller Dippers ( I think the NDP government got a real education during their term which brought a lot of the powerful party types onside for economic growth) did BC a great service by halting the winter season exploitation by Alberta companies and allowing the BC service sector to grow. The biggest problem we have in BC gas is Alberta companies hopping across the border with their equipment and employees and then hopping back, paying no BC taxes and providing no economic benefit to BC. Its too bad the current Dipper leadership contenders are tripping over each other to condemn private industry. I suppose they have been out of power too long to understand the realities of governing. The prevailing attitude appears to be taking 9 out of 10 cookies and then telling the unions that private industry took their cookie. ( with apologies to whomever dreamed the cookie metaphor up).