babble is rabble.ca's discussion board but it's much more than that: it's an online community for folks who just won't shut up. It's a place to tell each other — and the world — what's up with our work and campaigns.
I said nothing about your freedom to say whatever you want. I was pointing out things on which I think you are mistaken.
@ RP
I have always been partial to canning -vegetables and meat - rather than freezing. The texture and taste are far superior and it keeps a lot longer (and without electricity).
And there is a lot more that you can get through the winter - roots and squash - if you have cold storage and cold frames. I am sure there are forums on it - I went and found a few good government manuals and books on it with times and pressures I could trust.
I'm looking into getting a food dehydrator or whatever it's called - I've been buying dried fruit and tomatoes at a store in Sept-Iles, and I love the stuff. I'm going to try and dry out my own garden veggies this year, for use later in soups and stews.
Does anyone here have experience with a food dehydrator?
On the general question, I think most people DO buy veggies in the winter. dietary challenge or not. I do know that most of us don't have rice paddies in our back yards so there is a fair bit that we must import in the winter. I think the question is to do that wisely and in moderation, and not expect to have fresh peaches in January.
As for me, I still have a few of our potatoes and squash downstairs (and we do have local market sources for roots, onions and cabbage). We also have canned greens (chard and spinach) and apples year-round. A lot of our grains and pulses are in fact local. I think 70 percent of the world's lentils are grown in Saskatchewan, as a matter of fact. So as for replacing protein, there should be no problem there.
Food dehydrators - I have always used an oven with the door open, or better still the sun - which is far better for doing tomatoes. For fish I use salt.
The one thing I fins a drag is that there is no good way to preserve brassicas other than salting or pickling. Can't freeze them, dry them or can them.
Thanks for the responses. I'll just add that perhaps if these initiatives are to succeed you won't just ask folks to look it up on their own.
I have no interest in wasting my time surfing the web endlessly. Links are useful. I try to provide them when asked. This is new to me and I would appreciate some help. Sorry to be short.
I don't know where to look but I am interested. I try to grow more of my own vegetables every year. I haven't learned how to store them yet. I throw out a lot of rotten things that I don't know how to store. (tomatoes, cucumbers are usuaully too abundant, I need to learn to share better, but it's hard folks) We all ain't perfect.
I think a better initiative would be to have neighbourhoods get together and organize meals.
Food dehydrators - I have always used an oven with the door open, or better still the sun - which is far better for doing tomatoes. For fish I use salt.
Thanks! (we don't get much in the way of warm sunlight, though - never goes over 78F here)
Unless there are some people here who live on an all-meat diet and nothing else, I think most of us are buying that rice, corn, and fresh vegetables already - meat eaters included.
Days when I cook vegan (usually a couple of times a week - more if I include vegetarian) don't involve me importing an extra crate of california lettuce to make up for the fish fllet that I am going without.
What are you eating then, locally? I'm a big potato guy. Yep. I'm Irish. Spuds are really good for you and take you a long way.
To survive veggie and keep my energy up would cost a hell of a lot.
I think a better initiative would be to have neighbourhoods get together and organize meals.
Here on the coast of Quebec community shared gardens (initiated by the social workers) are quite popular - especially with the senior population. Here in Kegaska which has a tiny population, most seniors have their own veggie garden, and a few of us (including me) have at least a small greenhouse.
I think a better initiative would be to have neighbourhoods get together and organize meals.
Here on the coast of Quebec community shared gardens (initiated by the social workers) are quite popular - especially with the senior population. Here in Kegaska which has a tiny population, most seniors have their own veggie garden, and a few of us (including me) have at least a small greenhouse.
That's what I'm talking about! Right on Boom Boom! We need this as a challenge! I challenge babble.ca to get some COMMUNITY gardens going! I'll get on this. My family is already sharing some asparagus this spring. The whole family's goods are being shared as we speak. Once you have a good garden growing, you don't need to buy anything. You can trade for what you need. I'm no farmer but we have been having a nice harvest.
I'd appreciate it if babble found a way to promote community gardens over this initiative.
There's a guy here who grows cabbage, and he salts it, and it sells out within days. Salted cabbage? That's a new one on me.
Here's a good sauerkraut recipe:
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Cabbage
Salt
Combine, wait, eat.
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Silliness aside, you can actually make sauerkraut yourself, if you have some excess cabbages. It's easy, and the results are incredibly healthy for you.
Actually, I ate vegan-acceptable dishes yesterday - squash, mushroom and black-eyed pea soup for lunch, chick pea curry for dinner. Not because of a challenge, though - I make these regularly. I did have a big glass of milk with them, though, so that would disqualify me anyway.
There are many different types of community gardens, because community gardening is adapted to the needs of the community in which it is practised. And since it is a relatively new phenomenon, the practice of community gardening is still in the process of defining itself.
Community gardening is the result of mobilizing a community to respond to the needs of its residents. Management and organization remain within the community.
Typically, a community garden consists of a plot of land that is shared, but not individually divided up. Responsibilities, knowledge, labour and the food harvested are shared among the participants. Generally, group cohesion and team spirit are fostered by having the members come together for a weekly work day.
The purpose of a community garden is to build food security and to empower the participants while fostering stronger ties with cultural communities and contributing to a healthy urban ecology.
La solidarité, la démocratie, l'équité et la justice sociale, l'autonomie, la prise en charge, le respect de la personne : la dignité.
@ LTU
I said nothing about your freedom to say whatever you want. I was pointing out things on which I think you are mistaken.
@ RP
I have always been partial to canning -vegetables and meat - rather than freezing. The texture and taste are far superior and it keeps a lot longer (and without electricity).
And there is a lot more that you can get through the winter - roots and squash - if you have cold storage and cold frames. I am sure there are forums on it - I went and found a few good government manuals and books on it with times and pressures I could trust.
I'm looking into getting a food dehydrator or whatever it's called - I've been buying dried fruit and tomatoes at a store in Sept-Iles, and I love the stuff. I'm going to try and dry out my own garden veggies this year, for use later in soups and stews.
Does anyone here have experience with a food dehydrator?
You were the one complaining about those jokes; I just said I heard them before.
Whateverthehell "ownership" means, I said twice already that my comments were about my perceptions of what eating an animal means to me.
Do you have anything to contribute to any of these conversations, or are you merely the village scold?
RP (read your second post)
On the general question, I think most people DO buy veggies in the winter. dietary challenge or not. I do know that most of us don't have rice paddies in our back yards so there is a fair bit that we must import in the winter. I think the question is to do that wisely and in moderation, and not expect to have fresh peaches in January.
As for me, I still have a few of our potatoes and squash downstairs (and we do have local market sources for roots, onions and cabbage). We also have canned greens (chard and spinach) and apples year-round. A lot of our grains and pulses are in fact local. I think 70 percent of the world's lentils are grown in Saskatchewan, as a matter of fact. So as for replacing protein, there should be no problem there.
Food dehydrators - I have always used an oven with the door open, or better still the sun - which is far better for doing tomatoes. For fish I use salt.
The one thing I fins a drag is that there is no good way to preserve brassicas other than salting or pickling. Can't freeze them, dry them or can them.
Thanks for the responses. I'll just add that perhaps if these initiatives are to succeed you won't just ask folks to look it up on their own.
I have no interest in wasting my time surfing the web endlessly. Links are useful. I try to provide them when asked. This is new to me and I would appreciate some help. Sorry to be short.
I don't know where to look but I am interested. I try to grow more of my own vegetables every year. I haven't learned how to store them yet. I throw out a lot of rotten things that I don't know how to store. (tomatoes, cucumbers are usuaully too abundant, I need to learn to share better, but it's hard folks) We all ain't perfect.
I think a better initiative would be to have neighbourhoods get together and organize meals.
COMMUNITY!
#winning
Thanks! (we don't get much in the way of warm sunlight, though - never goes over 78F here)
What are you eating then, locally? I'm a big potato guy. Yep. I'm Irish. Spuds are really good for you and take you a long way.
To survive veggie and keep my energy up would cost a hell of a lot.
I'm not rich. What suggest you, I do?
This was an example of a post that I posted before the other one.
#babblefail
Here on the coast of Quebec community shared gardens (initiated by the social workers) are quite popular - especially with the senior population. Here in Kegaska which has a tiny population, most seniors have their own veggie garden, and a few of us (including me) have at least a small greenhouse.
Just interjecting, my friend, to what I felt was pointless to the discussion. Feel free to be as you were. I don't squeak for oil too often.
That's what I'm talking about! Right on Boom Boom! We need this as a challenge! I challenge babble.ca to get some COMMUNITY gardens going! I'll get on this. My family is already sharing some asparagus this spring. The whole family's goods are being shared as we speak. Once you have a good garden growing, you don't need to buy anything. You can trade for what you need. I'm no farmer but we have been having a nice harvest.
I'd appreciate it if babble found a way to promote community gardens over this initiative.
Community gardens (and gardens generally) are a great thing. I don't think the two ideas are mutually exclusive though.
I'd guess they are when rabble chooses to promote one over the other.
Can we get a movement going for COMMUNITY gardens!?
People need to meet each other!
What a Partyy!
As long as it isn't a pot-luck dinner, there might be injuries.
Here's a good sauerkraut recipe:
--------------
Cabbage
Salt
Combine, wait, eat.
--------------
Silliness aside, you can actually make sauerkraut yourself, if you have some excess cabbages. It's easy, and the results are incredibly healthy for you.
Snert:
I made my favourite Vegan dish last night; Fried asparagus.
Asparagus, vegetable oil, garlic, salt, pepper, chives and lemon juice.
Actually, I ate vegan-acceptable dishes yesterday - squash, mushroom and black-eyed pea soup for lunch, chick pea curry for dinner. Not because of a challenge, though - I make these regularly. I did have a big glass of milk with them, though, so that would disqualify me anyway.
What is a Community Garden?
excerpt:
There are many different types of community gardens, because community gardening is adapted to the needs of the community in which it is practised. And since it is a relatively new phenomenon, the practice of community gardening is still in the process of defining itself.
La solidarité, la démocratie, l'équité et la justice sociale,
l'autonomie, la prise en charge, le respect de la personne : la dignité.
Continued here.