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Any way to get an electoral map like the ones above of all of Brant Riding? The one you have of Brantford is great but I was wondering if you might have something that gives a complete picture of that riding.
These are great but... the new format isn't nearly as clear as the old format. I don't suppose there's an easy way of changing it. What I mean by this is when you zoom in and out the quality declines dramatically compared to the old format of proper PDFs.
Any way to get an electoral map like the ones above of all of Brant Riding? The one you have of Brantford is great but I was wondering if you might have something that gives a complete picture of that riding.
And please throw in Haldimand-Norfolk, while you are at it -- I'm curious to see where the NDP won polls there. Thanks in advance. (I am surprised at the number of requests that you have received in these two threads that manage to avoid using please and thank you...)
Very cool! Although I disagree with some of the ridings you made, and their names... BTW, Cochrane-Suprior is way too small, and I dont think would fly.
Kanata-Ottawa should be renamed Kanata-Carleton while Ottawa-Carleton should be renamed Rideau-Carleton. The last boundary commission tried to use "Ottawa" like you did, but there was public uproar about it.
I of course will be doing my own maps after the census results come in.
I like your urban Belleville--Quinte West, although Stirling-Rawdon doesn't quite belong.
So your Northumberland--Peterborough is not bad, except that Millbrook has more long-standing ties with Port Hope, while both Otonabee-South Monaghan and Douro-Dummer actually contain parts of the Peterborough Urban Area. So I would leave them in Peterborough, and move Cavan-Millbrook-North Monaghan into Northumberland-Peterborough. That leaves the nice community of interest of Asphodel-Norwood, Havelock-Belmont-Methuen and Trent Hills, which are a single school board ward in the Kawartha Pine Ridge District School Board.
The rest of your eastern Ontario map looks very good, except maybe Lanark--Frontenac which (like the present monster) includes Carleton Place with the north end of Kingston. Leeds-Grenville and Lanark share a school board and have much closer connections, but they're too big. Slice another 14,000 off Kingston, take the west 31,604 people (2006 census) off Leeds, and you're getting a nice Frontenac-Thousand Islands riding. But it needs more people. Shift Loyalist (part of Kingston CMA) into it, and add Tay Valley, and you're there. (Shift Stirling-Rawdon into Prince Edward--Hastings--Lennox and Addington.) But the result is a bit of a dog's breakfast. Is it really much better than Lanark--Frontenac? You decide.
Sorry to clutter up this thread, but the private message function didn't work.
I have not had time to go through the entire map but it seems like the Conservatives stand to win almost every new seat except Toront-Harbour (which thankfully is where I live)
Do you have the net result as to which ridings would be gained or lost by which party?
Wilf, thanks for all info. The Millbrook stuff makes sense. The new Peterborough has an estimated population of 114,000 while Northumberland-Peterborough has 104,000. You're right that the other suggestion is a bit of a dog's breakfast. What do you think about Lanark-Grenville (103,000) and Frontenac-Leeds (104,000)?
As for the PMs, I find that I get an error message every time I send one, but the message still goes through successfully. I got four copies of your PM this morning!
This map seems to take the Bramalea-Gore-Malton seat which the NDP almost won and chops into three pieces. Is there no way to draw a notionally NDP riding in that area?
Sure there's a way to draw an NDP seat in Peel; just check out this link.
Using the 2011 population estimates, Brampton (536,000) has the right number of people for five seats while Mississauga (769,000) has the right number for seven. Adding Malton (41,000) to Brampton would require moving an equal number to Mississauga to balance populations, causing a ripple effect across both cities.
I have not had time to go through the entire map but it seems like the Conservatives stand to win almost every new seat except Toront-Harbour (which thankfully is where I live)
Toronto-Harbour in Krago's "predistribution proposal" does not look like a new seat to me -- it seems to me to be the replacement/rough equivalent for the present Toronto Centre. The ridings in Toronto in this proposal least "matchable" to predecessor ridings seem to me to be Downsview (very safe Liberal, even in the last election) and Don Valley North (marginally Liberal in the 2011 federal election).
Currently, the City of Toronto (excluding the Pickering-Scarboro E riding) has 8 New Democrat MPs, 8 Conservatives, and 6 Liberals. Under Krago's "predistribution proposal", there would 9 New Democrat MPs, 6 Conservatives, and 9 Liberals.
I'm too lazy to count the whole province. But, if we ask nicely, I am sure Krago will post the totals on notional winners under these boundaries. Pretty please?
And remember not to put too much face value into "poised to win"--not just in the event of a Liberal comeback, but also in light of the NDP now being validated as even a boomburban voting option. Or even if the Tories are favoured in the "new" boomburb seats, the NDP might have hitherto-unseen potential in those seats "left behind", such as in deepest Mississauga, etc...
I'm too lazy to count the whole province. But, if we ask nicely, I am sure Krago will post the totals on notional winners under these boundaries. Pretty please?
Are you too lazy to scroll up six posts? The notional results are:
While it would be easy to say just take the 5,000-10,000 most Northern residents of both Sault Ste. Marie and Nickel Belt/Manitoulin ridings and put them in with Cochrane-Superior, you'd have to go pretty far south into the ridings to get that many people. Maybe the inevitable, consolidating the 4 most Northern ridings into 3 (Thunder Bay, Cochrane-Kapuskasing-Superior North, and Kenora-Rainy River), might be the best option, although a lot of people won't like that.
Also, I don't understand the uproar of the Ottawa ridings having the "Ottawa - " prefix? All Calgary and Edmonton (two cities about the size of Ottawa) have all their ridings start with their respective city's name.
Continued from here.
I have copied the pdf files to Google Docs. Here are the links:
Toronto - 2004 Electoral Map
Toronto - 2006 Electoral Map
Toronto - 2008 Electoral Map
Toronto - 2011 Electoral Map
Montreal - 2008 Electoral Map
Montreal - 2011 Electoral Map
The new greenish Saanich-Gulf Islands - 2011 Electoral Map
Windsor - 2011 Electoral Map
Winnipeg - 2011 Electoral Map
South Shore-St. Margaret's - 2011 Electoral Map
Yukon and Western Arctic - 2011 Electoral Map
Hamilton (minus Flamborough and the rural bits of Ancaster) and Niagara - 2011 Electoral Map<
(The incredibly boring) Brandon-Souris - 2011 Electoral Map
(The far more exciting) Edmonton- 2011 Electoral Map
Lac-Saint-Louis - 2011 Electoral Map
Nunavut (and Nunavik) - 2011 Electoral Map
Calgary - 2011 Electoral Map
Lethbridge - 2011 Electoral Map
Oshawa - 2004 Electoral Map
Oshawa - 2006 Electoral Map
Oshawa - 2008 Electoral Map
Oshawa - 2011 Electoral Map
Vancouver - 2011 Electoral Map
Saskatoon - 2011 Electoral Map
Regina - 2011 Electoral Map
Brampton and Mississauga - 2011 Electoral Map
Ottawa and Gatineau - 2011 Electoral Map
New Brunswick - 2011 Electoral Map
London and St. Thomas - 2011 Electoral Map
Kitchener, Waterloo, Cambridge and Guelph - 2011 Electoral Map
Hamilton, Burlington and Brantford - 2011 Electoral Map
Quebec City - 2011 Electoral Map
Halifax - 2011 Electoral Map
St. John's - 2011 Electoral Map
Huron-Bruce - 2011 Federal Electoral Map
Huron-Bruce - 2007 Provincial Electoral Map
Southern Vancouver Island - 2011 Federal Electoral Map
Vancouver Island North - 2011 Federal Electoral Map
To open the pdf files, select File then Download Original and then click on the Open button.
Enjoy!
Outstanding, thanks Krago!
WTG Krago!
If you want to see a Liberal cry, show them these:
Toronto - 2000 Electoral Map
GTA - 2000 Electoral Map
Montreal - 2000 Electoral Map
these are great Krago thanks so much. do you have a 2011 GTA? or 2011 York Region?
ETA never mind had i looked more closely i could have seen that the maps inlclude the ridings in Southern York Region
Hi Krago,
Any way to get an electoral map like the ones above of all of Brant Riding? The one you have of Brantford is great but I was wondering if you might have something that gives a complete picture of that riding.
These are great but... the new format isn't nearly as clear as the old format. I don't suppose there's an easy way of changing it. What I mean by this is when you zoom in and out the quality declines dramatically compared to the old format of proper PDFs.
On the left-hand side, just above the thumbnail, you should see three menu headings: File View Help
To open the pdf files, select File then Download Original and then click on the Open button.
Ahh, I'm new apparently. Thanks!
And please throw in Haldimand-Norfolk, while you are at it -- I'm curious to see where the NDP won polls there. Thanks in advance. (I am surprised at the number of requests that you have received in these two threads that manage to avoid using please and thank you...)
What a nice, polite young man you are! Here is your map - I even threw in Oxford for fun.
Brant, Oxford and Haldimand-Norfolk - 2011 Electoral Map
Here is the draft report of the Krago Commission to draw 124 ridings in Ontario, based on the proposed changes to the seat formula.
Proposed 124 Ontario Ridings
Krago, Teddy from the Atlas here. Mind if I transpose the most recent federal results on to the map? As well as provincial results once they are out?
The most recent federal and provincial election results are already included. Just click on one of the ridings on the map.
Very cool! Although I disagree with some of the ridings you made, and their names... BTW, Cochrane-Suprior is way too small, and I dont think would fly.
Kanata-Ottawa should be renamed Kanata-Carleton while Ottawa-Carleton should be renamed Rideau-Carleton. The last boundary commission tried to use "Ottawa" like you did, but there was public uproar about it.
I of course will be doing my own maps after the census results come in.
Ok, here are my name suggestions for your ridings
Ottawa-Carleton -> Rideau-Carleton
Ottawa-Barrhaven -> Nepean
Ottawa-Kanata -> Kanata-Carleton
Belleville-Quinte West -> Quinte
Northumberland-Otonobee -> Northumberland-Peterborough
Sudbury -> Sudbury-Killarney
Durham Centre -> Durham or perhaps Ontario
Niagara Centre -> Welland
Niagara Falls-Fort Erie -> Niagara Falls
Hamilton-Glanbrook -> Glanbrook-Stoney Creek
Middlesex-London -> Middlesex
Essex Northwest -> Essex
Conestoga-Brant -> Waterloo-Brant
Should Burlington-Esquesing be Burlington-Nassagaweya?
Anyway, I'm intrigued by how, technically, Markham South notionally became a three-way marginal in 2011...
I like your urban Belleville--Quinte West, although Stirling-Rawdon doesn't quite belong.
So your Northumberland--Peterborough is not bad, except that Millbrook has more long-standing ties with Port Hope, while both Otonabee-South Monaghan and Douro-Dummer actually contain parts of the Peterborough Urban Area. So I would leave them in Peterborough, and move Cavan-Millbrook-North Monaghan into Northumberland-Peterborough. That leaves the nice community of interest of Asphodel-Norwood, Havelock-Belmont-Methuen and Trent Hills, which are a single school board ward in the Kawartha Pine Ridge District School Board.
The rest of your eastern Ontario map looks very good, except maybe Lanark--Frontenac which (like the present monster) includes Carleton Place with the north end of Kingston. Leeds-Grenville and Lanark share a school board and have much closer connections, but they're too big. Slice another 14,000 off Kingston, take the west 31,604 people (2006 census) off Leeds, and you're getting a nice Frontenac-Thousand Islands riding. But it needs more people. Shift Loyalist (part of Kingston CMA) into it, and add Tay Valley, and you're there. (Shift Stirling-Rawdon into Prince Edward--Hastings--Lennox and Addington.) But the result is a bit of a dog's breakfast. Is it really much better than Lanark--Frontenac? You decide.
Sorry to clutter up this thread, but the private message function didn't work.
An impressive piece of work Krago.
I have not had time to go through the entire map but it seems like the Conservatives stand to win almost every new seat except Toront-Harbour (which thankfully is where I live)
Do you have the net result as to which ridings would be gained or lost by which party?
This is a good point, after I looked at an old map of Halton Co. Alternatively, Halton West might be a good name for the riding.
I have fixed the Esquesing/Nassagaweya thing. Mea culpa.
The transposed election results are:
Wilf, thanks for all info. The Millbrook stuff makes sense. The new Peterborough has an estimated population of 114,000 while Northumberland-Peterborough has 104,000. You're right that the other suggestion is a bit of a dog's breakfast. What do you think about Lanark-Grenville (103,000) and Frontenac-Leeds (104,000)?
As for the PMs, I find that I get an error message every time I send one, but the message still goes through successfully. I got four copies of your PM this morning!
Clicked quote instead of edit.
This map seems to take the Bramalea-Gore-Malton seat which the NDP almost won and chops into three pieces. Is there no way to draw a notionally NDP riding in that area?
Sure there's a way to draw an NDP seat in Peel; just check out this link.
Using the 2011 population estimates, Brampton (536,000) has the right number of people for five seats while Mississauga (769,000) has the right number for seven. Adding Malton (41,000) to Brampton would require moving an equal number to Mississauga to balance populations, causing a ripple effect across both cities.
One could also join Malton up with parts of north Etobicoke for an NDP-winnable seat, if not a notionally NDP seat...
Toronto-Harbour in Krago's "predistribution proposal" does not look like a new seat to me -- it seems to me to be the replacement/rough equivalent for the present Toronto Centre. The ridings in Toronto in this proposal least "matchable" to predecessor ridings seem to me to be Downsview (very safe Liberal, even in the last election) and Don Valley North (marginally Liberal in the 2011 federal election).
Currently, the City of Toronto (excluding the Pickering-Scarboro E riding) has 8 New Democrat MPs, 8 Conservatives, and 6 Liberals. Under Krago's "predistribution proposal", there would 9 New Democrat MPs, 6 Conservatives, and 9 Liberals.
I'm too lazy to count the whole province. But, if we ask nicely, I am sure Krago will post the totals on notional winners under these boundaries. Pretty please?
And remember not to put too much face value into "poised to win"--not just in the event of a Liberal comeback, but also in light of the NDP now being validated as even a boomburban voting option. Or even if the Tories are favoured in the "new" boomburb seats, the NDP might have hitherto-unseen potential in those seats "left behind", such as in deepest Mississauga, etc...
Are you too lazy to scroll up six posts? The notional results are:
Thank you for posting the notional results (a second time)
While it would be easy to say just take the 5,000-10,000 most Northern residents of both Sault Ste. Marie and Nickel Belt/Manitoulin ridings and put them in with Cochrane-Superior, you'd have to go pretty far south into the ridings to get that many people. Maybe the inevitable, consolidating the 4 most Northern ridings into 3 (Thunder Bay, Cochrane-Kapuskasing-Superior North, and Kenora-Rainy River), might be the best option, although a lot of people won't like that.
Also, I don't understand the uproar of the Ottawa ridings having the "Ottawa - " prefix? All Calgary and Edmonton (two cities about the size of Ottawa) have all their ridings start with their respective city's name.