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New Democrats Call for End to Military Mission in Libya
That's quite a bit of rebuttal considering my only real point was that some people were talking about this massacre before this spring. It is not something that was just cooked up.
And NDPP, I wasn't aware that massacres and war crimes cancelled each other out. After all, the fact that crimes have been committed on both sides doesn't really change things. THe only thing whitewashing Gadaffi does is make me question the truth and fairness of other things which are being posted.
From what I see in the papers the atrocities against migrant workers is getting a fair bit of coverage.
All these stories about massacres, and dead babies and raped women always come up when there is an effort to justify war. We will never know if they are true or not. War kills, you know. The best doctor we ever had in our community was trained in Libya so there was nothing wrong with their educational system. He was trained in geriatrics and all the old people loved him because he made house calls when they needed him. He moved to Toronto. But I don't hate you Toronto, for that. I know you are lucky.
Headline in the Globe today: Petro Can a few weeks away from pumping Libyan oil. Who'da thunk it, eh?
A massacre in a prison occurred in 1996 and in 2011 we had to bomb the crap out of Tripoli and all of the publicly owned infrastructure. Makes perfect sense to me as long as it brings on the contracts for our Canadian disaster capitalists.
I am sure SNC Lavalin is already discussing with the NTC how to spend the billions in public funds from Libya's treasury that have been released to it. This is a neat new trick in regime change, transferring a countries wealth even before the fighting stops. It is also good news for our brothers and sisters employed in the arms business. The new government should have enough cash to buy some Stryker crowd control units from our factories in Canada so it is even good for the economy. The new government will need those new civilian control tools to make sure that no political opponents try to overthrow them. They also work really well for patrolling immigrant camps that are being set up as those evil black people are incarcerated but of course only for humanitarian reasons. The Saudis have shown the Stryker's usefulness in their occupation of Bahrain. Those evil Bahrainis, unlike the rebels in Libya, needed to be crushed for demanding democracy when they live in a "benevolent" monarchy. They should have known how good they have it given they have the American miltary base there to drive the economy.
For all you great humanitarians I can only say buy stock in the carpet bagging companies that are flooding into Libya behind the Union troops. Maybe some good old boy Americans can give the new government some lessons on Jim Crow laws to control the dangerous "mercenaries" in their midst.
The NDP will decry the use of more force now that the regime has fallen. They will of course want our corporations to extend a friendly hand to the Libyan people as they rebuild the infrastructure we destroyed. Good business all around and they get to oppose further violence. It looks like a win, win for the party.
and amidst it all the Canadian general in charge of choosing where and who to bomb, is barely mentioned, or the fact that Canadian planes were just behind Britain and France in dropping the bombs and DU to destroy the infrastructure of Libya, and incinerate many of its people. No, instead we talk of Ghadafi atrocities. Let us, instead, speak of our own...
and amidst it all the Canadian general in charge of choosing where and who to bomb, is barely mentioned, or the fact that Canadian planes were just behind Britain and France in dropping the bombs and DU to destroy the infrastructure of Libya, and incinerate many of its people. No, instead we talk of Ghadafi atrocities. Let us, instead, speak of our own...
I think that Canadian General has his own thread here devoted to him, and even a nickname.
I have no objection to talking about the atrocities committed by NATO and by the rebels. It's the holding back from taking a fair look at Gadaffi, and frankly recognizing that some of the rebels had valid grievances, that I think discredits some of the arguments here.
I may agree with you about NATO intervention being wrong, but sorry, I am not about to be played for a fool. If I seem to be arguing one line here, it is not because I disagree with everything you say, it is because I am trying to point out the stuff I notice is being studiously ignored by some here.
That's quite a bit of rebuttal considering my only real point was that some people were talking about this massacre before this spring. It is not something that was just cooked up.
And NDPP, I wasn't aware that massacres and war crimes cancelled each other out. After all, the fact that crimes have been committed on both sides doesn't really change things. THe only thing whitewashing Gadaffi does is make me question the truth and fairness of other things which are being posted.
From what I see in the papers the atrocities against migrant workers is getting a fair bit of coverage.
All these stories about massacres, and dead babies and raped women always come up when there is an effort to justify war. We will never know if they are true or not. War kills, you know. The best doctor we ever had in our community was trained in Libya so there was nothing wrong with their educational system. He was trained in geriatrics and all the old people loved him because he made house calls when they needed him. He moved to Toronto. But I don't hate you Toronto, for that. I know you are lucky.
Headline in the Globe today: Petro Can a few weeks away from pumping Libyan oil. Who'da thunk it, eh?
A massacre in a prison occurred in 1996 and in 2011 we had to bomb the crap out of Tripoli and all of the publicly owned infrastructure. Makes perfect sense to me as long as it brings on the contracts for our Canadian disaster capitalists.
I am sure SNC Lavalin is already discussing with the NTC how to spend the billions in public funds from Libya's treasury that have been released to it. This is a neat new trick in regime change, transferring a countries wealth even before the fighting stops. It is also good news for our brothers and sisters employed in the arms business. The new government should have enough cash to buy some Stryker crowd control units from our factories in Canada so it is even good for the economy. The new government will need those new civilian control tools to make sure that no political opponents try to overthrow them. They also work really well for patrolling immigrant camps that are being set up as those evil black people are incarcerated but of course only for humanitarian reasons. The Saudis have shown the Stryker's usefulness in their occupation of Bahrain. Those evil Bahrainis, unlike the rebels in Libya, needed to be crushed for demanding democracy when they live in a "benevolent" monarchy. They should have known how good they have it given they have the American miltary base there to drive the economy.
For all you great humanitarians I can only say buy stock in the carpet bagging companies that are flooding into Libya behind the Union troops. Maybe some good old boy Americans can give the new government some lessons on Jim Crow laws to control the dangerous "mercenaries" in their midst.
The NDP will decry the use of more force now that the regime has fallen. They will of course want our corporations to extend a friendly hand to the Libyan people as they rebuild the infrastructure we destroyed. Good business all around and they get to oppose further violence. It looks like a win, win for the party.
and amidst it all the Canadian general in charge of choosing where and who to bomb, is barely mentioned, or the fact that Canadian planes were just behind Britain and France in dropping the bombs and DU to destroy the infrastructure of Libya, and incinerate many of its people. No, instead we talk of Ghadafi atrocities. Let us, instead, speak of our own...
I think that Canadian General has his own thread here devoted to him, and even a nickname.
I have no objection to talking about the atrocities committed by NATO and by the rebels. It's the holding back from taking a fair look at Gadaffi, and frankly recognizing that some of the rebels had valid grievances, that I think discredits some of the arguments here.
I may agree with you about NATO intervention being wrong, but sorry, I am not about to be played for a fool. If I seem to be arguing one line here, it is not because I disagree with everything you say, it is because I am trying to point out the stuff I notice is being studiously ignored by some here.
I think the mainstream has that more than taken care of...
Sorry if I don't find a choice between two sets of half-truths to be all that attractive or productive.
Movin' on over to here.