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Ontario 2011 election results

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Doug
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October 7, 2011 - 12:47am
#181

NorthReport wrote:

Quite a devastating nite for the Liberals, losing their majority and 18 seats, and this will be McGuinty's last kick at the can.

 

It might have been if they hadn't been expected to lose badly a couple of months ago. On balance, I think they'll take it and be happy.


Policywonk
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October 7, 2011 - 12:53am
#182

NorthReport wrote:

Does anyone know the popular vote counts?

Liberal 37.5%

Conservative  35.3%

NDP 22.9%

Greens 2.9%

Other 1.4% (by my calculation)


Debater
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October 7, 2011 - 12:55am
#183

NorthReport wrote:

Quite a devastating nite for the Liberals, losing their majority and 18 seats, and this will be McGuinty's last kick at the can. Now that Canadians are showing they are tiring of the Liberals, maybe some Liberals may see the writing on the wall and jump ship before too long. You know, the folks that get passed over for the cabinets posts, etc. 

Nonsense of course.  Almost everyone in the political class in Ontario knows this was a devastating night for the PC's, not the Liberals.  Dalton McGuinty made history by becoming the first Ontario Liberal Premier in over 100 years to win 3 terms, and almost won 3 back to back majorities.  He entered the election behind Tim Hudak in the polls who had all but been anointed the next Premier, and yet managed to get re-elected despite a tough economy.  

And of course this was McGuinty's last election.  Pointing that out is irrelevant.  It will obviously be time for a new leader after 3 terms.  Very few Premiers stay longer than that.


Debater
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October 7, 2011 - 12:58am
#184

Ken Burch wrote:

Tomorrow, when he's sober enough to post, probably.

I don't drink, but thanks anyway.  Smile

I was at a victory party though in the Ottawa area tonight for the Ottawa Liberal MPP's where it was a clean sweep of the region:  Ottawa-Orleans, Ottawa South, Ottawa Vanier, Ottawa West-Nepean, Ottawa Centre and Glengarry-Prescott-Russell.


Aristotleded24
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October 7, 2011 - 1:03am
#185

Debater wrote:
And of course this was McGuinty's last election.  Pointing that out is irrelevant.  It will obviously be time for a new leader after 3 terms.  Very few Premiers stay longer than that.

If the tone of McGuinty's speech was any indication, he's not going to step down voluntarily.


Debater
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October 7, 2011 - 1:05am
#186

A final point I would make for tonight:  it's interesting to see how much weaker the NDP vote was in Toronto compared to the federal election.  The NDP did not win Davenport by the large margin expected, barely held onto Trinity-Spadina, lost out in York South-Weston, and won ridings like Beaches East-York and Toronto-Danforth by smaller margins than in the federal election in May.

This could indicate that with a good federal leader, the Liberals could pick up most of these ridings at the federal level again if last May's Liberal collapse in Toronto turns out to be mainly an anti-Ignatieff vote.

 

 


Aristotleded24
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October 7, 2011 - 1:12am
#187

Debater wrote:
A final point I would make for tonight:  it's interesting to see how much weaker the NDP vote was in Toronto compared to the federal election.  The NDP did not win Davenport by the large margin expected, barely held onto Trinity-Spadina, lost out in York South-Weston, and won ridings like Beaches East-York and Toronto-Danforth by smaller margins than in the federal election in May.

This could indicate that with a good federal leader, the Liberals could pick up most of these ridings at the federal level again if last May's Liberal collapse in Toronto turns out to be mainly an anti-Ignatieff vote.

True ture. Nothing should ever be taken for granted.


Hunky_Monkey
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October 7, 2011 - 1:18am
#188
Debater wrote:

A final point I would make for tonight:  it's interesting to see how much weaker the NDP vote was in Toronto compared to the federal election.  The NDP did not win Davenport by the large margin expected, barely held onto Trinity-Spadina, lost out in York South-Weston, and won ridings like Beaches East-York and Toronto-Danforth by smaller margins than in the federal election in May.

This could indicate that with a good federal leader, the Liberals could pick up most of these ridings at the federal level again if last May's Liberal collapse in Toronto turns out to be mainly an anti-Ignatieff vote.

 

 

Like the federal Tory result in Manitoba translated to the provincial scene. Oh wait... The Liberals were up against a WEAK Tory leader. They almost tied in popular vote and the Liberals lost almost 20 seats. Now, Horwarth has McGuinty on a leash. As for the NDP, they're finally shaking off the shackles from your federal interim leader. Their vote went up 7 points from 2007 and they won 7 new seats. They're back in the game. And for a couple close ones we won, there were several close ones we lost that will be targeted in the next election when the Liberals fall even further than they did tonight.

bekayne
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October 7, 2011 - 1:30am
#189

Someone almost nailed it (missed by one)

 

A political rabble-rouser Member: 11438 Joined: Sep 19 2005 Send private message October 4, 2011 - 11:58am #6 (permalink)

 

Well here are my predictions

Liberal   54

PC        37

NDP      16

No Tories seats in Toronto.

 



Catchfire
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October 7, 2011 - 1:33am
#190
Yikes! Next thread plz!

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