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MEDIA ALERT - High Speed Rail Canada to Release Ontario-Quebec High Speed Rail Study

plangan
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MEDIA ALERT - High Speed Rail Canada to Release Ontario-Quebec High Speed Rail Study

On Monday October 17th, High Speed Rail Canada will release the Ecotrains Consulting, January 2011 Federal/Ontario/Quebec Government Updated High Speed Rail Study for the Ontario-Quebec Corridor. It will be available on their website, http://highspeedrail.ca as a free download.

Paul Langan, Founder of High Speed Rail Canada states, "The public paid for it it and the government has no right to keep the public from seeing it".

Paul Langan
Founder High Speed Rail Canada
http://highspeedrail.ca
519-654-0089

 


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KenS
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You could at least have dressed this up a bit so that it didnt look like bare self promotion of ones hobby horse.


Unionist
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Congratulations Paul - keep up the good work! One of these days we'll come to our senses and stop using airplanes and automobiles for these short hops.

And Ken, I don't think hobby horses are a good means of transport either.

 


KenS
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Depends on what you are wanting to transport.


Gaian
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KenS wrote:

You could at least have dressed this up a bit so that it didnt look like bare self promotion of ones hobby horse.

Someone with a valuable objective and who speaks from tireless efforts to move government and citizen over many years, directly, without endless circumlocution. I can see why you would find this self-promotion, KS.

Maysie
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I don't know if VIA rail is ready for fast trains.

Rick Mercer on "bullet trains". Hee hee.

Rick Mercer wrote:

You can count on VIA Rail for the same low-speed train service that we had when we incorporated in 1977.

......

VIA Rail. Yesterday's speeds. Today.


Maysie
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Unionist, rock out.


Uncle John
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Yeah, not abusing psychiatric people is my HOBBY HORSE because I took a crowd dose of pepper spray and a truncheon to the head leaving a pool of blood 1 metre in diameter.

I guess I should quite being so SELFISH and EGOTISTICAL in trying to get pinheads in the media to stop writing SCHIZOPHRENIC when they mean DUPLICITOUS.


Sky Captain
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Somebody has come up with something of a reality check on the idea of HSR in Canada, and has proposed a solution:

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We need to explore HSR with a more modest approach. First, we need new train sets that can make the best time between the major cities on the upgraded, non-electrified track that will soon exist in the Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto triangle. Bombardier had developed a jet-train engine that was designed to mate with existing HSR passenger wagons for use on non-electrified track. Called the JetTrain, it even made a demo run in Canada ten years ago. Our first step towards testing the viability of HSR in Canada would be to allow VIA to purchase 20 to 30 train sets using a high speed jet-type locomotive (under a competitive bidding process, please) to replace the existing LRC train cars that VIA has lived with since the early 80s. This semi-high speed train could probably reduce the Montreal-Toronto trip to approximately 3 hours, which for most people is competitive with the airlines. The airlines would stay quiet since they would not want to be accused of attempting to stifle competition and the LRC train sets require replacement in any case, after major refits that extended their lives to this point. With these modern trains running on existing rail, we would get a real idea what the potential ridership is in the Quebec City-Windsor corridor and further investment in electrification or dedicated HSR tracks could be made with greater certainty and fiscal responsibility.

Our American HSR partners are also likely to come to the conclusion that certain segments of track do not merit immediate electrification. For example, the route north of Albany to Montreal will be very expensive to build and operate, and the only way to make it economically viable may be to push off the electrification phase until later. Even if the Americans decided to electrify the entire network immediately, there could be an engine change at the border to allow train sets to continue into Canadian territory with only a few minutes delay for passengers. A hybrid system could exist for a long time and would allow HSR train sets to run on conventional rail in areas where dedicated HSR infrastructure would not yet exist.


autoworker
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Downtown Toronto to downtown Montreal in < 3hrs, at a competitive price, would be worth the investment in improved infrastructure. Electrification could make sense within urban corridors that also run regional commuter trains. Germany has a good system of rail integration.


flight from kamakura
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i drool at the thought of hsr from quebec to three rivers to montreal to ottawa to toronto to kitchener to london, that would be a dream come true.  though the problem is the cost - ridership would have to be pretty high for prices to be anything like reasonable, barring big-time subsidy.  this is precisely the reason we need an ndp government, this is the sort of thing that would be plusses all around.


thorin_bane
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As usual windsor is ignored :( Anyway, they are talking about a midwest highspeed rail in the US. Chicago to Detroit(Windsor is 1 km away for those that don't know their geography so well)  And one up the eastern seaboard. We could run a loop from windsor (chicago start ) to halifax and spur down to new jersey.  Could do a lot to revitalize a lot of areas.  The sadest part is we produce leading edge bullet trains and don't even use them in our GIANT country. Want to have less worry about terrorism and air travel, train is stuck on rails. Yes you could hijack one, but a lot less easy to crash into a sky scraper.


Sky Captain
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thorin_bane wrote:
Want to have less worry about terrorism and air travel, train is stuck on rails. Yes you could hijack one, but a lot less easy to crash into a sky scraper.

You can still crash a train packed with expolsives into a factory, or crash it into a big station like Union Station or Penn Station-it is possible. 


Westcoast Granny
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Sky Captain
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Chicken Little didn't have to deal with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjed8lV30a4&feature=player_embedded


Fidel
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Yes the Brits and CIA should cease infiltrating these terrorist groups only to nothing about it in the end, like 3/11 in Madrid, 9/11 in NYC etc.

Richard Clarke, counterterrorism(U.S.) wrote:
A lot of the cases after 9/11 were manufactured or enormously exaggerated and were announced with great trumpets by the attorney general and the FBI director so that we felt that they were doing something when, in fact, what they were doing was not helpful, not relevant, not needed.


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