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Occupy Toronto, part 2

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M. Spector
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Derrick O'Keefe wrote:

You cannot evict the idea -- at long last expressed in no uncertain terms -- that you, the 1 per cent super-rich, have been getting away with crimes against the people for far too long.

You cannot evict the idea that the rich and the powerful are responsible for the social and economic crisis we face.

You cannot evict the idea that money must cease to dominate and corrupt politics.

You cannot evict the idea that everybody, all 100 per cent of us, deserves a home, a permanent, safe and comfortable roof over their heads; this is an idea that you cannot evict no matter in how many places you try to evict the homeless who have joined our encampments. You cannot evict from sight and from mind the social problems that your 1 per cent centric system has created and perpetuated.

You cannot evict the idea that the environmental crisis is driven by the insatiable and irrational system of capital accumulation that you sit atop.

You cannot evict the idea that the war machine is paid for with the blood and treasure of the 99 per cent, and yet serves only your 1 per cent interests.

You cannot evict the bonds of international solidarity that have already been forged, with actions like the Egyptians' sharing lessons of struggle in New York or the Boston Occupation of the Israeli consulate in solidarity with the Freedom Waves flotilla to Gaza.

You cannot evict this rebellion because it has become global, beginning in Tunisia and spreading from there and picking up People Power and indignation along the way.

You cannot evict the joy we have all felt in joining a movement that has finally spoken to class injustice, and to the exclusion of the 99 per cent from power at all levels.

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Indigenous Declaration of Solidarity

http://occupytoronto.org/2011/11/16/indigenous-declaration-of-solidarity/

"We the First Nations Defenders of the land wish to convey the message that we have come to aid in the peaceful occupation of St. James Park...

Occupy Toronto, Press Statement Nov 15

http://occupyto.org/2011/11/16/press-statement-november-15th/

"We call on everyone to come to the park and stand with us to defend our right to continue this process.."

THEY STAND FOR YOU - STAND WITH THEM TORONTO!

 

 


M. Spector
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EVICT FORD. OCCUPY TORONTO.
Rally and march Saturday, November 19 at 2:00 p.m. Assemble at St. James Park (on King St E, between Church and Jarvis)
In just a few weeks, the Occupy movement has become a global phenomenon, with over 1,400 protests worldwide. In Toronto, a peaceful occupation has been underway at St. James Park, raising demands for economic and social justice for everyone. Polls in Canada show that a clear majority of people support the protests.

But now Mayor Rob Ford is trying to evict the protesters. We think it's time to evict Rob Ford instead. Ford's attacks on good jobs, public transit and city services has turned public opinion against him - and in every ward of the city. While the millionaire mayor spends millions on high-priced consultants, he's trying to make ordinary people pay for the economic crisis.

We won't let him do it. Please join us this Saturday to be part of a city-wide rally and march. Show your support for the Occupy movement, and its demands for a better world for everyone.

"You can't evict an idea whose time has come!"

Organized by Occupy Toronto

Web: http://www.OccupyTO.org

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OccupyToronto

Twitter: https://twitter.com/OccupyToronto


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A Revolution or Evolution

http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/local/article/1027947--a-revolution-or-e...

"They argue disbanding the camp will destroy their movement and prevent them from working collectively to understand and resolve social and political problems. Here are some excerpts from their sworn statements..."

Toronto's Protesters Have Right to Stay Put

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/torontos-protesters...

An article by University of Toronto law professor David Schneiderman, arguing in favour of Occupy Toronto protesters


M. Spector
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OCCUPY TORONTO IS BEING EVICTED. Please Come and Support at St James Park ASAP

Please contact Toronto Mayor Rob Ford (416) 397-3673 or email: mayor_ford@toronto.ca

"City manager says by midnight, mayor pressing for sooner..."

www.occupyto.org


Uncle John
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32 HOUR WORKWEEK WITH NO REDUCTION IN PAY

- will reduce unemployment

- will mitigate wealth disparity

- is simple


Unionist
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Huge surprise - church refuses to grant sanctuary to protesters

Quote:

The dean of St. James Cathedral said the church gave the city permission to issue trespass notices to protesters camped out on cathedral lands.

“The courts have spoken,” the Very Reverend Douglas Stoute told reporters at an afternoon news conference. He said he was concerned about the potential for violence after some Occupy members said they had no intention of leaving the park.

“That kind of [talk] invites violence and chaos,” Dean Stoute said, expressing hope that the dispute would be “resolved smoothly.”

Amen.


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re: 'the courts have spoken'  the dean just happens to be married to a Superior Court Judge...

Occupy Toronto Campers Defy Eviction Order

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/11/22/occupy-toronto-tu...

"Occupy Toronto protesters remain hunkered down in St. James Park after a midnight Tuesday eviction deadline. The Occupy Toronto livestream website which has provided video feed from the downtown park carried a banner after midnight reading

'Occupy Toronto Eviction Watch Has Begun'

CBC POV: 'Do you agree with the Judge's decision?''

so far most do...


M. Spector
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Linda McQuaig wrote:

As lawyers from the Law Union of Ontario point out: "Some inconveniences to local park users is a small price to pay for the larger price being paid by the 99 per cent worldwide in the face of an economic system that privileges the few over the many."

Are occupations really necessary to draw attention to their cause? Perhaps not. But I'd trust their judgment over mine. After all, they've managed to change the public discourse, putting inequality front and centre -- something activists and writers, myself included, have failed to accomplish despite decades of trying.

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Doug
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It looks like the police are coming this morning. They're assembling at locations close to St James Park as well as behind Police HQ. 


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Livestream: police have brought a sound-cannon to the site


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Livestream: Buses of riot police have arrived at St James Park


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Livestream: Judy Rebick calling for anyone able to attend the Park and stand in solidarity. General Assembly at noon


Uncle John
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32 hour workweek with no reduction in pay

- reduces unemployment

- gets some money back for the working class from the 1%

- Is a concrete demand we can talk about, agitate for, and implement in the current system.

As I warned elsewhere on this board, the power of the State in a Monarchy is Absolute. Indeed the whole constitution in monarchist countries is set up EXACTLY to suppress popular operations such as Occupy. Of course, when I spoke about abolishing the Monarchy her a few months ago, many people on this board told me I was wasting time. Another thing they do in monarchies is lock people up in concentration camps, also known as 'unconstitutional detention facilities', invented by the British Empire we still seem to have a massochistic love for.

Considering Monarchy is EXACTLY set up to suppress protest movements, people might start listening up. Nothing will substantially change while there is a monarchy. Maybe this fact will start to percolate through some stubborn skulls. Anyone who has tried to suppress Republicanism in Canada has also suppressed Occupy, in modern Internet meme talk, LIKE A BOSS.

Anyone within the ranks of the popular movement who supports the Monarchy is a class traitor. Pure and simple.

If you want to change the system, you have to ... uh .. change the system. DUH!

 


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CP 24 News coverage: One of the remaining resistors awaiting arrest held up a sign with the defining message of this Occupation:

'O Canada: Our Home ON Native Land!'


nussy
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Police are respectful and show contraint. 


RevolutionPlease
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Hundreds of OFL members in the park.

6079_Smith_W
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Uncle John wrote:

 Another thing they do in monarchies is lock people up in concentration camps, also known as 'unconstitutional detention facilities', invented by the British Empire we still seem to have a massochistic love for.

Since you're off topic already, I'll just point out that the Brits didn't invent concentration camps. The Russians, the Spanish and the Americans did it first. So at least one of those wasn't a monarchy.

Sorry for the interruption. I know it must be a very tense and shitty day in Toronto.

 


RevolutionPlease
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Peaceful resolution for the St James Library yurt. At least 3 arrests so far.

clandestiny
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i turned on 'city' tv- the one with the guy wearing suspenders- this morning, and heard him say 'everything was 'peaceful' when the cops moved in to crush the resistance to law and order' or whatever...so angrily I called the station and said the police used obvious brute force to remove the Occupy protestors; it's plain thuggery, and a big lie to say it was peaceful! If someone showed YOU (a young lady answered ph, and said absolutely nothing, as if stunned by the criticism!)...showed YOU  a weapon while telling you to move along, you'd think that was wrong, but because it's the wallstreet bullyboys' helpers, you call it 'peaceful? Nonsense....

Also, I have a brilliant idea on how to move things along to the Occupy movement's (we 99 percenters)  benefit. Let's use Proxy' representation, or howver you say it. Example, I give one of the activists my name, phone number  address etc, with sworn statement saying that THAT person 'represents' me on the streets, since i work and too busy/tired to rep myself ...there are tens of thousands, if not millions of supporters of OWS / Toronto etc who can only watch situation from a distance, powerless! If every activist thus represented a large number of citizens/voters, then mister pig would be even more gentle and reasonable to them, and the grinning stooges of fascism (the newsmedia) would be exposed as rightwing fraudsters for supporting the status quo! I betcha there are millions of unrepresented 'activists' who would love to help anyway possible! A good idea also would be to CHARGE a registry fee, say $10, in order to stop mister pig from exploiting the hole in this particular donut ( re false names, black bloc agents etc)....If someone could contact the Occupy movement and suggest making proxy representation using internet and a simple bank acc't (?)....the pig thinks he can kill the movement, and he can/will unless we use trickery that the bastards can't get around....


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I think your sponsorship/proxy protester idea is a very interesting one clandestiny.  And unlike the ndp they won't vote to bomb Libya without your consent either...


deb93
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If someone could contact the Occupy movement and suggest making proxy representation... Anyone - ie, you clandestiny, can contact Occupy Toronto through their facebook page or website. They have a credit union acct. You can simply contribute and then send them an email with your proxy vote. I wouldn't suggest putting your street address or even phone number on anything that might be public though, as there are right wing crazies out there who might harass you or worse.

clandestiny
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Nothing would be public. If ANYTHING i consider, when looking at planet earth, it's the reactionarkies and their sneaky conman tricks used to 'steal candy from the baby' (an electorate is a baby, in that it's very foolish and prone to extremes of emotions, iow an electorate quickly devolves into a brutish mob...that was part of why both Aristotle and Plato, the founding fathers of western political discourse, dismissed everyman democracy as unworkable and a pipedream) who fascinate in that they are, almost to a man, or woman, ignorant crybaby thugs with sissified personalities and vicious morals who rewrite everything after their predestined historical failures becomes obvious, and get away with it thanks to control of pigmedia. A classic example of this is the rightwing sympathy/aiding for fascism leading up to, causing, WW2, and how after war 'West' berlin was located 300 miles inside EAST GERMANY, and no one noticed USSR gave 2/3rd Berlin to west out of goodwill! and soon..) I will send a suggestion to 'Occupy' but ...the idea itself arises from the fact working 5 days week and only using internet week-ends limits any my effectiveness regards activism, and to be honest i don't care anymore about anything but effective activism...i did give cash at the 'logistics' tent, twice, and will glady give more, but, again, i'm nobody and if anything depend upon me, then it's a lost cause....


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clandestiny wrote:

A classic example of this is the rightwing sympathy/aiding for fascism leading up to, causing, WW2, and how after war 'West' berlin was located 300 miles inside EAST GERMANY, and no one noticed USSR gave 2/3rd Berlin to west out of goodwill! and soon..)

It wasn't goodwill at all. Do you remember the blockade and the airlift? They did everything they could do short of invasion to bring that city under soviet control.

And that territory was not theirs to give in the first place. The allied powers agreed to separate regions of occupation in Germany and Austria, and in the two capitals, Berlin and Vienna.

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Actually that situation is still not engraved in stone. I remember when Helmut Kohl was chancellor there was a big stink about him not giving absolute recognition to the Oder-Neisse border between Germany and its former territories which are now part of Poland.

 

 


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Toronto the Good: Killing Us Softly - by David Ker Thompson

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/25/killing-us-softly/

"...the financial centers of Toronto still profit from the vast filth of the tar sands to the west, the whole tawdry financial structure is in cahoots with the nation's biggest trading partner to the south. The nation's still an eager-beaver bumboy to the sad cluster fuck that is American military aspiration, and on and on.

Too many reasons to resist, occupy and just say no.

But Occupy Toronto was goodcop'd out of St James Park while 98% of the populace sat and watched, unwilling to lift a hand in their own interests..."


clandestiny
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It wasn't goodwill at all. Do you remember the blockade and the airlift? They did everything they could do short of invasion to bring that city under soviet control.

And that territory was not theirs to give in the first place. The allied powers agreed to separate regions of occupation in Germany and Austria, and in the two capitals, Berlin and Vienna.

(edit)

Actually that situation is still not engraved in stone. I remember when Helmut Kohl was chancellor there was a big stink about him not giving absolute recognition to the Oder-Neisse border between Germany and its former territories which are now part of Poland.

 

 

by April 1945 the Red Army was way past Berlin, 300 miles past, and Berlin was totally under Soviet control. Indeed, the Dresden bombing (featured in Vonnegut's 'Slaughterhouse 5') occurred AFTER Soviet troops were already gone by- the city had no military value and its destruction, also see hiroshima/nagasaki -  was a blatant effort by brit/amer fascists to frighten Soviets; which was successful in that the Soviets were unable to disband their vast military and rebuild their shattered country, with its 25 million dead. Some day, hopefully, the crazy human race wakes up to how ruthlessly and easy deftly it was defrauded on a massive scale leading to its own extinction; which will be, obvious to all within 100 years and a moot detail involving nothing in 500 years (though mister pig will decamp for space satelites, probably. The planet earth will die, and the cause is the neverending ability of rightwing fascism and its loudmouth pigmedia to lie about everything that mattered until too late to correct the misunderstandings. The Soviet Union was the revolution, the 'occupy wall street' of its day, only it was also a superpower, thanks to Joseph Stalin, who, despite his flaws, kept the revolution on track despite the  vast energy spent demonising both him and USSR and the revolution... for example, fyi, william shirer blamed nazism on german race characteristics rather then on fascism. in his  'rise/fall 3rd reich'.....the 'berlin wall' was built in 1961, during JFK  time, only 2 years before JFK killed by fascists...the USSR fell 20 years ago, and the true nature of fascism has since emerged in the 'democracies'. In britain a rightwing loudmouth recently called for mass murder of national strikers.... and the 'george dubia bush' institute ...louis freeh, karl rove... harper govmint ...arab spring started with overthrow of saddam... etc, ad nazism


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Hey remember Occupy Toronto. Whatever happened to that I wonder?


epaulo13
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Occupy Toronto - Bridge the Divide action

The Deets:

Sunday January 1, 2011
12:00 p.m. - 1:30 p.m.
Toronto bus will leave Toronto from City Hall at 9:00 a.m. and return from Niagara at about 3:00 p.m.
Niagara Falls

http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/krystalline-kraus/2011/12/activist-communiqu%C3%A9-occupy-toronto-%E2%80%93-bridge-divide-action



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