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Sun TV host insinuates that Jews control Hollywood
February 23, 2012 - 9:46pm
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-shmuley-boteach/canadian-tv-host-insinuat_b_1297451.html
Is Coren Jewish? Or is he the guy who converted to Catholicism a few years ago?
I understand Coren considers himself to be a Catholic. Although I consider him a complete right-wing asshole.
The last time I came across one of Coren's rants was a month or two ago when Justin Trudeau called out Peter Kent.
Coren went on a tirade against Justin saying he was a spoilt, rich boy who had no right to speak that way to a respected, soft-spoken gentleman like Peter Kent whom all Canadians admire.
Peter Kent may have been a decent news anchor, but considering that a survey done by the National Post showed that more people agreed with Justin than with Peter Kent, I'm not sure Kent is as well-loved in Canada as Coren thinks.
Kent is a news anchor, and that's what he should have stayed.
Well, Coren is of course denying he's anti-Semitic, but he clearly pulls out the I respect observant orthodox Jews but liberal secular Jews hate Christians and control Hollywood line:
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2012/02/20120...
yeah and that is just so untrue, it is us (teh gays), we control it
I'm friends with Rabbi Boteach on Facebook and he was posting all day about the terrible anti-Semitism he experienced on the show so I decided to tune in. Coren said nothing anti-Semitic. He mentioned that Jews were very influential in Hollywood, which hardly seems to be a controversial or inaccurate statement. He never said "control". The rabbi then went into this tirade about how Coren had supposedly said that Jews control Hollywood, the media, the banks, etc. Coren never mentioned media or the banks. The rabbi twisted his words and tried to turn nothing into something. He's got a new book out and is considering a run for congress in New Jersey and I think he's just trying to drum up publicity. I certainly don't agree with Coren on everything but by no means is he an anti-Semite and saying otherwise is vile.
If that's so then what was the basis for his claim that Jews are too negative about Catholics?
As a Jew, all I can say is there is no point even in trying to understand this. I gave up a very long time ago. Frankly, I don't care what anit-semites think. It'll catch up with him.
Where did Coren make that claim? Just looking for the exact source.
Last I heard, Hollywood was owned by transnational corporate capitalists.
You know ... Disney (largest shareholder the late Steve Jobs), News Corp (Rupert Murdoch), Time Warner, Columbia (mostly owned by Sony Corporation) and Viacom.
There's no doubt that many Jews are very influential and successful in Hollywood, just as many are very influential and successful in other fields, be they law, medicine, business, technology, politics, media and many others. As a Jew, I celebrate that success. I don't think Coren was being disparaging by pointing it out.
But he's not just "celebrating" that fact. The whole discussion about Hollywood started after he was asked for an example of Jewish hostility to conservative Christians and he said well look at Hollywood. So he threw out that classic trope.
There in the statement but he jumbled up Jewish-Christian, Catholic, attitudes towards and between etc. I don't see anything specific about relations with 'conservative' Christians, which could put slightly different spin on the Hollywood comment politically, so still looks strange to me.
Lord Palmerston is right. Here we have the case of a loudmouth Rabbi Boteach and an equally loudmouthed Michael Coren wrestling the mike to out yell each other. Neither come off as heroes.
For me I take exception with Coren's pretty obvious attempt at stereotyping Jews.
Even if one were to accede the fact that there are many Jews working in Hollywood , so what? There are probably far more "others" and do we really believe that all these Jews working in Hollywood, have some kind of a club where they gather weekly to conspire against right wing Christians? Such an inference is a form of anti- Semitism whether Coren has eight Jewish 2nd cousins or three Hebrew grandmothers.
Problem for me is that Rabbi Boteach is himself such a retrograde that I simply cannot bring myself to side with him even if he is right.
ROTFL
I listened to the whole thing. It's much ado about nothing. Two loudmouths out-shouting each other. Coren's thesis was a stupid one: That he respects orthodox Jews who have theological differences with Christianity, but secular liberal Jews tend to see evangelical Christians as "southern, bigoted", supporting Israel because of the "end of times" theme, but still anti-semitic - and he claims Pope Pius got a bum wrap, etc. He says yes, up to 50 years ago, Christianity was anti-semitic overall, but lots has changed since then. And Jews are influential in Hollywood (which the Rabbi tried to turn into "Jews control Hollywood", but Coren rejected that expansion of his thesis), and it's all to their credit, and Hollywood portrays evangelical Christians as bigoted, etc.
Frankly, I am more frightened by the real new anti-semitism - those who claim that Israel is the state of the Jews - and that an attack on Israel is an attack on the Jewish people.
If Canada ever went to war with Israel (in a shift of political fashions), Harper and his thugs would intern the Jews.
These are the real anti-semites.
I think you're posting in the wrong thread.
Hey, those are luxury spa treatments in Toronto.
Okay, sorry, back to the thread.
Shmuley is still tweeting all about this and published a new article attacking Coren for Coren's response to Shmuley's first article attacking him? Still following? And Coren is now saying that he has "explosive tapes" from when the camera stopped rolling when Shmuley didn't realize his microphone was still on. Gee. One guy needs ratings for his TV show. One guy has a new book to sell. Manufacturing bogus controversy gets both of them publicity and gives each exactly what they're looking for.
Coren's blather about Jews being "anti-Christian" etc...reminds me of some of those Christian fundamentalists in the US who go on and on about those "ungrateful Jews" (sic.) how can they keep on voting for liberal Democrats in US elections when the Republicans have done soooo "much" for them by backing Netanyahu's foreign policies. This started a long time ago. Recently released Watergate tapes have Nixon going on an anti-semitic rant with Henry Kissinger where Nixon wanted to Kissinger to explain why "is people" were so ungrateful to Nixon for everything he had done for them and wanting to know why so many "jews were still Communists"!
Or James Baker (Bush the first's chief of staff) who said "Screw the Jews. They don't vote for us anyway", adding that Jews "earn like Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans".
I had never heard of this rabbi until yesterday. But he's kind an idiot for thinking the Christian Right are such "friends" of the Jews.
Yes, he's rather ubigutous on TV. Had the show, Shalom in the Home. Appears on shows like Dr. Phil. Talking about running for congress in a New Jersey district, as a Republican, but the district is heavily Democratic. He actually seems like a nice guy, and he's not as hung up on sex and sexual identity, as most Republicans are.
Christians are a much bigger population than Jews and he wants to reach a bigger audience and sell more books.
I think Boteach is a publicity-whore. He quickly capitalized on Michael Jackson's death by rushing out a book that was essentially the transcripts of his conversations with Jackson when he served as his "spiritual advisor". A) I don't know why an orthodox rabbi would be a spiritual advisor to someone who isn't even Jewish and B) I'd think there would be some respect to privacy and confidentiality in not disclosing the tapes. But, hey, he got to sell a lot of books and go on all the talk shows and that seems to be all that really matters to him.
...and we love them for it!!!
Repeating anti-Semitic and racist comments, Mr Tea?
Agreeing with them, Stockholm?
"publicity whore", Mr Tea?
Fucking really?
What anti-Semitic and racist attacks did I repeat? Discussing comments made by right wing Republicans against Jews is hardly endorsing them. We're having a discussion about a perception among some Christians and conservatives that Jews are somehow "ungrateful" for "support" they receive and we cited some examples. This is "anti-Semitic and racist" now? For fuck's sake, I'm Jewish.