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NDPP
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Perhaps someone made them an offer they couldn't refuse? Never fear all will become clear...


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Gladio Gang's Front Group Drafts "Humanitarian Aid" for Syria

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An advance draft of the Friends of Syria plan calls for al-Assad to agree to an immediate cease-fire or face a "yet-to-be mentioned response" from the "world community." It recognizes the Syrian National Council as a "credible representative of the Syrian people."

As we noted last November, the Syrian National Council is supported by the Muslim Brotherhood, which supported the al-Qaeda rebels in Libya and is now working with the NATO installed government to turn that country into another impoverished Arab vassal state indebted to the IMF and the bankers.

In January, Haitham Maleh, a founding member of the executive committee of the Syrian National Council, called for murdering Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, his British wife and three children.

Imagine political opposition leaders in Britain or the USSA calling for the sodomization and murder of government leaders and their families. And then imagine that foreign governments are funding and arming their militant wings and fomenting civil war in America and U.K. There would be hell to pay as a result.


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Yeah but stuff like that only works if the population of a country will support groups like that or be indifferent to them because they are not happy with the current government to the point of not caring what happens to it.


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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

 

Yeah but stuff like that only works if the population of a country will support groups like that or be indifferent to them because they are not happy with the current government to the point of not caring what happens to it.

 

I think that Qatari imperialists could fund a poll on Syrian opinions commissioned by the Doha debates and publish results showing 55% of Syrians support Assad - and the results simply would not matter as far as our lapdog newz media is concerned. Toadies in corporate sponsored news media, and whether knowingly or not, are violating international law since Nuremberg by broadcasting war propaganda. Because they know which side their bread is buttered on is no excuse. They should be arraigned on charges of war crimes and prosecuted.


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Syria Unrest Not Indigenous Rebellion (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/228496.html

"Top US officials have called for the urgent provision of weapons, intelligence and funds to the Syrian opposition for use against President Bashar al Assad

 

'US Led Anti-Syria Plots Aimed at Defending Israel' (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/228613.html


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Syria Gearing Up for Referendum (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/syria-referendum-vote-constitution-211/

"War-torn Syria is gearing up for an unprecedented referendum on a new draft constitution. But the opposition is calling on the population to boycott the vote, set for Sunday.."


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In this rush to support the foreign armed activists (maybe we should ask for foreign arms next time we take to the streets like during the G20...), do any of these foreign policy experts stop to examine what a FAILURE Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya are? There is nothing humanitarian in these rushes to topple over regimes the US/Israel/NATO nations dislike for mostly economic reasons.


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Fidel wrote:

I think that Qatari imperialists could fund a poll on Syrian opinions commissioned by the Doha debates and publish results showing 55% of Syrians support Assad - and the results simply would not matter as far as our lapdog newz media is concerned. Toadies in corporate sponsored news media, and whether knowingly or not, are violating international law since Nuremberg by broadcasting war propaganda. Because they know which side their bread is buttered on is no excuse. They should be arraigned on charges of war crimes and prosecuted.

 

That's good but how does that equate to real boots on the ground doing the fighting?  

 


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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

Fidel wrote:

I think that Qatari imperialists could fund a poll on Syrian opinions commissioned by the Doha debates and publish results showing 55% of Syrians support Assad - and the results simply would not matter as far as our lapdog newz media is concerned. Toadies in corporate sponsored news media, and whether knowingly or not, are violating international law since Nuremberg by broadcasting war propaganda. Because they know which side their bread is buttered on is no excuse. They should be arraigned on charges of war crimes and prosecuted.

 

That's good but how does that equate to real boots on the ground doing the fighting?  

 

What does this have to do with the fact that most Syrians support Assad and want to avoid sectarian violence and civil war, or the same sword operations used by Gladio gangsters in destroying Libya? Theyre even using the same Al-Qa'eda commander of Tripoli to lead the "Free Syrian Army" It's looking more and more like the Sword Gang murdered thousands of Americans on 9/11.


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Fidel wrote:

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

That's good but how does that equate to real boots on the ground doing the fighting?  

 

What does this have to do with the fact that most Syrians support Assad and want to avoid sectarian violence and civil war, or the same sword operations used by Gladio gangsters in destroying Libya? Theyre even using the same Al-Qa'eda commander of Tripoli to lead the "Free Syrian Army" It's looking more and more like the Sword Gang murdered thousands of Americans on 9/11.

Allot. If most Syrians support Assad how can a hand full of outsiders defeat him right in front of his supporters and his army? Given how big the Syrian army is I would say if what you say is true Assad is safe from any outside overthrow attempt.

 

Of course that doesn't explain why his military is shooting artillery into cities (if you believe that); but hey I'm not going to ask you a question like that... you'd probably say that's irrelevant.

 

 


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WPC Statement on the Situation in the Middle East

http://www.solidnet.org/world-peace-council/2579-wpc-statement-on-the-si...

"The World Peace Council voices publicly its concern with the serious threat of imperialism to peace in the Middle East, which becomes once more a theatre of its ambitions as well as its internal contradictions. A few months after the aggression by imperialism and its war machine NATO, against the Libyan people and territory, the major imperialist powers orchestrate new belligerent adventures in the Middle East.

The US and EU, accompanied by Israel and the Gulf monarchies, plan moves, create pretexts, generate internal interference set on de-stablizing the countries in the region that do not fit into their plan and interests. Their current targets are Syria and Iran. The General Plan is NATO's 'Great Middle East' aiming at the control of energy resources and pipelines as well as markets for the multinational corporations and spheres of influence..."

For The Release of Our Compatriots And Colleagues Held Captive in Baba Amr -  by Thierry Meyssan

http://www.voltairenet.org/For-the-release-of-our-compatriots

"Several journalists are held in the sealed off Baba Amr area. According to Atlanticist leaders, they are prevented from leaving by the constant pounding of the rebel stronghold by the Syrian Army. As an on the spot privileged witness of the negotations, Thierry Meyssan gives and account of the situation: the journalists are kept as prisoners by the Free 'Syrian' Army which uses them as human shields. Their evacuation by the SYrian Red Crescent has been obstructed by the rebels..."


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Fidel wrote:

I think that Qatari imperialists could fund a poll on Syrian opinions commissioned by the Doha debates and publish results showing 55% of Syrians support Assad

 

Which is nothing compared to the 99.997% of Syrians who are going to vote in favour of his new constitution.


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Hamas ditches Assad, backs Syrian revolt

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Leaders of the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas turned publicly against their long-time ally President Bashar al-Assad of Syria on Friday, endorsing the revolt aimed at overthrowing his dynastic rule.

Tell me again now how the uprising is all just a U.S.-Zionist conspiracy?

 

good point, but of course the political wishes of the Syrian people are pretty much an afterthought for many posters above

; if the dictator parrots an anti-imperialist line, he is A-OK

 


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You make an outstanding point. Our resistance to Assad is meaningless unless it is accompanied by an equal resistance to the kleptocracy of Hamid Karzai.

 

Both are worthless pigs.

 


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DaveW wrote:

; if the dictator parrots an anti-imperialist line, he is A-OK

Nah, I'm pretty sure he's bad news, I heard on the TV that he's committing genocide against his own people. What I don't get is how that just seems to pop into the heads of these despots. But it's happening more and more lately. I think there's good grounds for boots.

Wait a sec... Isn't that where we sent Maher Arar to be vigorously interrogated? Surely there must be something that can be salvaged from that regime. Or did they stop playing ball with us?

This is so frickin' complicated, I tell you. Can't they just wear white hats and black hats? Is that asking too much??

 


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Exactly. A pig is a pig.


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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:
Allot. If most Syrians support Assad how can a hand full of outsiders defeat him right in front of his supporters and his army?

You're prolly right. Al-CIA'duh will likely require the services of the luftwaffe. Just like they needed in creating AlCIA'duh in the Maghreb.

Never forget.


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Draft Constitution For the Syrian Arab Republic Currently Being Put to Referendum

http://lizzie-phelan.blogspot.com/2012/02/draft-constitution-for-syrian-...

"Following is the full text of the Draft Constitution for the Syrian Arab Republic, to be put to referendum on February 26, 2012...

SNC 'Halfway To Recognition' By Friends of Syria

http://rt.com/news/syria-friends-opposition-recognition-191/

"...The conference in Tunis was not legitimate as the Syrian government was not involved, Abayomi Azikiwe, editor of The Pan African News Wire, told RT. 'They are not interested in a peace settlement, they are mainly interested in regime change in Syria. The US and Britain actively want the government in Syria overthrown as a precursor for further aggressive and hostile actions against the Islamic Republic of Iran.."


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Fidel wrote:

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:
Allot. If most Syrians support Assad how can a hand full of outsiders defeat him right in front of his supporters and his army?

You're prolly right. Al-CIA'duh will likely require the services of the luftwaffe. Just like they needed in creating AlCIA'duh in the Maghreb.

Never forget.

 

Even that woun't help. Syria has one of the most advanced air defense systems in the Middle East... it will not be like Libya.


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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

Fidel wrote:

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:
Allot. If most Syrians support Assad how can a hand full of outsiders defeat him right in front of his supporters and his army?

You're prolly right. Al-CIA'duh will likely require the services of the luftwaffe. Just like they needed in creating AlCIA'duh in the Maghreb.

Never forget.

 

Even that woun't help. Syria has one of the most advanced air defense systems in the Middle East... it will not be like Libya.

 

I'm guessing the Gladio gang will lean on their al-Qa'eda allies. Zawahiri and his brothers did a fine job for NATO, the CIA and their KLA buddies in Kosovo. And the CIA has reported that Zawahiri was behind the recent terrorist attacks in Alleppo, Syria. The ICRC are even back in the groove demanding a ceasefire, like the good old days in South-East Asia when the Red Cross insisted on supplying food aid to the Thai army who, in turn, were actively supporting the Khmer Rouge. I'm sure Qaeda wing of the CIA would love for them to bomb Syria from the air, like the doctor and the madman did in paving the way for the KR to takeover Cambodia in the 1970s. But I think Balkanization is on order in this case.

Khmer Rouge, Al-Qa'eda, what's the diff, eh, Bec? The Gladio Gang has allied themselves with and supported the scum of the earth over the years. Some things never change.


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'US To Announce Aerial Blockade on Syria'

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2c7340%2cL-4194506%2c00.html

"...the intervention scenario calls for the establishment of a buffer zone on the Turkish border, in order to receive Syrian refugees. The Red Cross would then provide the civilians humanitarian aid, before NATO crews would arrive from Turkey and join the efforts. The measure would pave the way for the US to declare an aerial blockade on Syria. The intercession is to be modeled after NATO's efforts in Kosovo, which brought an end to the Serbian control of the region..."

 


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Foreign intervention destroys the revolution

Abdel-Halim Qandil wrote:

Calling for a foreign intervention serves the Assad regime, betrays the revolutionary cause, and threatens Syria with disintegration. What is required is not to destroy Syria, but to destroy the regime and let Syria rise from the ashes, according to the wish of her people, who long for a democratic Arabic homeland.

Is the crisis in Syria heading down the path of the Libyan scenario? And to what extent are the regime's stubbornness and bloodiness preparing to open the door to a foreign armed intervention, which would transform the Syrian revolution into a tragedy that would threaten the very survival of the Syrian state?

The danger is present, though not very likely, as Syria lacks petrol - the booty that attracted Western greed as in the case of Libya, and Iraq before.

America and its satellites act in a very pragmatic way. They are not concerned about tens of thousands of people injured or martyred. They may even prefer the situation as it is: the Arab Syrian army worn out in a bloody war against the people. And the Syrian regime challenged and undermined, but not overthrown, because the West does not know exactly where Syria would be going after Bashar. They don't trust Burhan Ghalioun's pledges of peace with Israel, which explains why Washington and other Western regimes hesitate to officially recognise Ghalioun's opposition Syrian National Council.

That Council on one hand includes the Muslim Brotherhood, one of the main sectors of the opposition, but on the other hand most of its other members have dubious identities and backgrounds, are close to intelligence circles - including the Syrian secret services - or simply opportunists, seekers of illegitimate fortunes as money is flowing in from the Gulf states. There are a few others who stand for the Damascus Declaration and are not tempted to collaborate with Washington. And then there is a constant appearance and disappearance of Syrian groups who claim to represent the revolution and sell Syrian blood like a merchant who sells wares who are not his own, but eagerly accepts cash advances.

These are the people who keep begging for a foreign military intervention, for establishing and securing no-fly zones, pretending to protect civilians and to stop the bloodshed, though in fact any foreign military intervention means more bloodshed and the destruction of Syria, of the land and the people, and a transformation of the revolution into an open civil war.


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Top U.S. general: meddling in Syria not easy work; Pre-war planning against Iran a dirty job

General Jack D. Ripper says it's premature even to 'talk about arming' our new best friends forever, Al-Qa'eda. And so that must mean the American CIA and taxpayers have been arming them all along on the QT and hush-hush. Say no more, General Ripper. We hear ya.


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89% Vote in Favor of New Syrian Constitution

http://rt.com/news/syria-referendum-constitution-results-307/

"Syria's Interior Minister has announced that 89 per cent of those who took part in the referendum have voted in favor of a new constitution. The new law puts an end to five decades of one party rule among other reforms put forward by President Assad.."

EU Hits Syria With Toughest-Yet Sanctions (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/eu-recognizes-syrian-national-council-321/

"The EU has recognized the Syrian National Council, one of the main opposition groups, as a legitimate representative of the Syrian people. The decision came as the EU ministers met in Brussels to slap Syria with its toughest sanctions yet..."

'Al Assad Government Opens Democratic Political Process (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/228925.html

"...First of all, outside entities have no business interfering in a referendum on a constitution in any country. I think it's just a sample of the strong interventionist policies that the US has been carrying out for a good part of the 20th century and the beginning of this century. Outside parties that are against the referendum on a new constitution have been defined by your report - we're talking about the Persian Gulf monarchies, most of which have no constitutions and the whole process of voting does not exist.

And the US, for example, not approving or not accepting the concept of a referendum on a constitution - that contradicts the very foundations on which the US was created.."


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China: US Has No Moral Right to 'Protect Arabs' (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/syria-referendum-china-putin-275/

"China says the US has no right to 'protect' Arab peoples, questioning 'the sincerity and efficacy of US policy'. The country's top newspaper replied to Hillary Clinton after she called China's and Russia's veto of a UN Syrian resolution 'despicable'. The United States is beginning to realize the complexity of the situation in Syria and is showing signs of slightly backing off their previous energetic push for regime change in the country, Jeremy Salt, a professor at Bilkent University, told RT. (interviewed)

Syrian Conflict Destabilizes Lebanon

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/feb2012/leba-f27.shtml

"The campaign by the Obama administration for regime change in Syria is part of the deepening confrontation between US imperialism and its main target in the region, Iran. The removal of the Assad government and the imposition of a regime led by the US-backed Syrian 'rebels', largely drawn from Sunni Islamist groups, would further isolate Tehran, both politically and militarily.

For its part, Iran seeks to strengthen its ties to Lebanon, and in particular to the Hezbollah movement based there, as a counterweight to the US and Israeli threats. The Lebanese government, headed by PM Najib Mikatihar refused to sign on to the US-led campaign to destabilize the Assad regime.."

John Baird Voices Concern for Syrian Religious Minorities

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/John+Baird+voices+concern+Syrias+rel...

"...speaking in Ottawa on Friday, the commander of all US Forces in the Middle East and Central Asia, General James Mattis, confirmed the complicated situation facing the international community in sorting things out in Syria. 'It's a very, very complex situation and I think the longer it drags on, the more apt we are to see extremists try to take advantage,' he said. 'The opposition is not united...and I cannot tell you  with clarity who all makes up the opposition or its leadership."


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Israel doesn't want the Assad regime to be toppled

Vijay Prashad, on February 4, wrote:

Writing in the Israeli paper Haaretz, Zvi Bar’el writes that Washington and Tel Aviv do not wish the precipitous departure of al-Assad. “He is seen as a safety valve against a violent attack by Hezbollah on Israel or against its physical takeover of Lebanon. He has also made known his disagreements with Iran following the controversial visit of Ahmadinejad to Lebanon [in 2010].” One member of the Israeli cabinet told the Washington Post, “We know Assad. We knew his father. Of course, we’d love to have a democratic Syria as our neighbor. But do I think that’s going to happen? No.”

The US and Israel are currently hiding behind the Russians (and to some extent the Chinese) in the UN Security Council. None of them have any interest in the removal of al-Assad from power. To their minds, Syria should not have a Libyan solution but a Yemeni one: the violence will simmer, the opposition will tire, then al-Assad will be allowed to create a successor in name only who will retain the lineaments of the regime intact but will provide a new face for Syria. Just as the “new” Yemen cannot be allowed to be a threat to Saudi Arabia, the “new” Syria cannot be allowed to upset the Israeli applecart.


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re: Syria and Israel - it's complicated...

PNN: The Israeli Position Towards Events in Syria

http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/4336/the-israeli-position-toward-ev...

"...There appears to be a difference between the position of Israel's military leadership and its political leadership. The military seems to prefer the survival of the Assad regime, primarily for fear of the alternatives and of the spreading of arms and chaos, which could inconvenience and even harm Israel.

On the other hand, politicians want the regime to fall as this would weaken what they describe as the 'axis of extremism' in the region, especially Iran and Hizbullah.."


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Syria: Clinton Admits US On Same Side As Al Qaeda To Destabilise Assad Government

globalresearch.ca wrote:
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has acknowledged that Al Qaeda and other organizations on the US "terror list" are supporting the Syrian opposition.

Clinton said: "We have a very dangerous set of actors in the region, al-Qaida [sic], Hamas, and those who are on our terrorist list, to be sure, supporting - claiming to support the opposition [in Syria]." [1] (Click here to watch video)

Yet at the same time, in the above BBC interview the US Secretary of State repeats the threadbare Western claim that the situation in Syria is one of a defenceless population coming under "relentless attack" from Syrian government forces.

There is ample evidence that teams of snipers who have been killing civilians over the past year in Syria belong to the terrorist formations to which Clinton is referring to.

Never forget.


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Assad Could Be Classified As A War Criminal - Clinton (and vids)

http://rt.com/news/clinton-assad-war-criminal-455/

"On Tuesday, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified before a Senate subcommittee on the State Departments budget. Pressured by Senator Lindsay Graham (R-SC) into answering whether she thinks Syrian President Bashar Al Assad fits the definition of a war criminal, Clinton said: 'Based on definitions of war criminal and crimes against humanity, there would be an argument to be made that he would fit into that category."

LOL! : You first Hillary...

'US Mobilizes Armed Gangs in Syria' (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/229253.html

"Armed groups in Syria have admitted that they have received weapons from the US and France. A defected military officer, who refused to be named, told reporters in the western Syrian city of Al Qusayr on Tuesday that armed troops receive 'French and American assistance.'

interview with Stephen Lendman


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Meanwhile: The 4th Armoured Division commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president's younger brother is poised to crush the rebelion in Baba Amro in Homs.

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The 4th Armoured Division commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president's younger brother, has a reputation for ruthlessness burnished during the past year of revolt and forged in history.

Drawn from the Alawite sect to which the Assads belong, it is hated by many in the Sunni majority who recall the role its predecessor units played in massacring many thousands of Sunni Islamists at Hama in 1982 on the orders of Assad's father Hafez.

 

Hopefully Assad can squash the rebellion before NATO gets its excuse to move. This should be a rather quick one sided fight..


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