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The last and definitive NDP Leadership thread
March 1, 2012 - 8:49am
Because there has to be one eventually.
Maybe true if they offered pagination.
I got in thread #100 ahead of time, and was ignored. Someone went and did another one real time, like when 99 was played out.
The nerve.
So this will probaly only be the first last thread.
Our tech support team is working on it. Hopefully it'll be part of the next upgrade.
I wonder what Mario Dumont is being paid to moderate the next debate.
Maybe it will be Pierre Poutine that moderates the next debate.
"Pierre Poutine" - is that French for Peter Mansbridge?
That would be the U de M Chacellor.
no shit: If Peter Mansbridge is Mount Allison University Chancellor, then Pierre Poutine could be with l'Université de Moncton or l'Université Sainte-Anne, by racist extrapolation.
Heck, I'm sorry. That was an untoward comment.
I suspect "Pierre Poutine" is a francoPHOBE's version of "Anonymous". I wonder what his or her mask looks like - a hockey mask or a tuque? Can't wait for him/her to be unmasked.
Actually by geographical extrapolation Hoodeet. The choice of name by the organizer of the Robocalling was indeed racist.
We had pagination in 2008, shortly after the great babblegeddon "upgrade". Apparently it was the default standard (as it should be), but was quickly axed in favour of having unconnected thread-chunks on the same topic.
Time to bump this since #113 has passed 100 posts.
ETA: Who needs #114 when we have this one?
I would have called this thread "The last and definitive NDP Leadership thread - Part 1"
Biting a dead horse?
With #116 on the horizon this thread whispers " pick me."
Make me 117.
If this is the last leadership thread, does it mean that the outcome is all sown up?
Good pun.
It would be, if it were spelled "sewn".
I was forgiving the spelling. I guess there always is 118. 8^(
Read more...
Another article which:
1. Exaggerates the differences between Layton (good) and the others (bad). Forgets that Layton apologized to the Israeli ambassador, for example, and then silenced Libby forever on the issue of Palestine.
2. Is totally comfortable with the notion of Leader as Supreme (except for a nod of the head to the "grass roots" as an afterthought at the end...).
3. Craps on the 2008 coalition, which was the kind of initiative which marks Layton's positive legacy more than any other - and the anti-Harper spirit which sent the NDP from 1 to 59 where I live.
Nothing to see here.
Well, of course you have totally missed the point. Either that or you are deliberately obfuscating.
Kellogg's comparison was between the resumé of Jack Layton as a candidate for leader and the resumés of Topp, Mulcair, and Nash as candidates for leader. Whereas Layton's resumé showed connections with social movements, the resumés of Mulcair and Topp do not. Moreover, Kellogg does not say the current candidates are "bad", as you put it. He definitely supports Peggy Nash.
Fair enough, Spector. I was only referring to his recounting of the Mulcair brutal attack on Libby - and saying Libby was "correct" about 1948 (which she was) - but omitting to mention that Libby retracted her correct statement about 1948 (to her shame, but after being no doubt bludgeoned), and Layton apologized to the ambassador. So the extreme distinctions he was seeking to draw were not just about background, and they are not as extreme as he paints them.
My main beef is about a party which spends six months tearing itself apart to choose a Dear Leader, but would never dream of spending six minutes in a real honest well-organized membership-wide (and even beyond members) consultation as to which direction the party should take on crucial issues of the day and the era.
Now that Saganash has endorsed Mulcair maybe we should move directly to this thread posthaste.
I guess all the babblers who were so enamoured of Saganash are now hopping on the Mulcair bandwagon as well?
Perhaps not.
I would think most Babblers who supported Saganash would be a bit shocked by this choice. Mulcair has been gaining momentum. Saganash could have arrested some of that momentum by supporting another candidate he did not. It appears the NDP will have its first Quebec leader in Mulcair. I'd be shocked if we see a Dion Effect in this race.
Actually Mulcair already had the biggest share of second place votes from the babblers with a declared Saganash preference at the time he dropped out.
I don't think endorsements like this change too many minds one way or the other, but it's a powerful symbolic endorsement and will be a big boost to Tom's narrative going into the final weeks.
I was just thinking that maybe some of the babblers who drank the Saganash koolaid were starting to feel a touch of remorse. But, like everything else, I'm sure they will be able to rationalize this away.