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Fidel
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Conn Hallinan wrote:
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and several U.S. senators have called for arming the FSA, a particularly bad idea because it is not at all clear who they are. There are persistent reports that the organization includes a goodly number of jihadists from Iraq, Libya, and Saudi Arabia. In any case, handing out weapons to people you don't know, to fight people you don't like is a formula for repeating the Afghanistan disaster.

That's baloney. Perhaps Hallinan himself is clueless about Qaeda in Syria, Libya and Iraq, but the imperialists do know who they are. "Abdallah al-Sadeq" is an aka for Abdul-Hakim Belhadj, their Al-CIA'duh commander in Tripoli post-Qaddafi. This State Dept report lists A-H Belhadj's LIFG as a foreign terrorist organization as did the U.K. refer to LIFG as affiliated with Al-Qaeda until June 2011. And Clinton has admitted that their Qaeda friend who once enjoyed NATO protection in 1990s US Military occupied zone of Kosovo, Ayman al Zawahiri, likely ordered Qaeda massacres on Homs from his U.S-occupied Qaeda sanctuary in Iraq. Western newz media numbskulls all mocked Qaddafi's claims that Qaeda was there in Libya and terrorizing civilians and attacking government troops. And now they are doing it again with U.S, British,  Saudi, Turk and Qatari supported Qaeda and affiliated terrorist groups marauding into Syria.

That's right, Conn, it's not even as simple as you make things out to be. In fact, we think you could even be running cover for the strategy of tension side of things yourself.


Bec.De.Corbin
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Fidel wrote:

[ Ayman al Zawahiri, likely ordered Qaeda massacres on Homs from his U.S-occupied Qaeda sanctuary in Iraq.

 

Speaking of baloney, seeing how there was artillery and tank fire involved where did they get the artillery and tanks to do that from? Not to mention how could they set up and not get attacked by the Syrian army? Tanks and artillery have a huge operational foot print... they could not possibly hide units like that from the Syrians in Syria.


M. Spector
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Doug wrote:

That seemed reasonably balance except for one point - the polling. I don't think we can take those results as meaning much given the situation. If someone calls you up in Syria and asks if you support the government, chances are you're going to think about saying yes for your own good.

Let me get this straight.

You casually dismiss an opinion poll funded by some of the most hawkish anti-Assad forces in the Arab world because you suspect pro-Assad bias in the results - which, BTW, said that "half the Syrians who accept [Assad] staying in power believe he must usher in free elections in the near future." Doesn't sound like a population that's afraid to say what they want from their government.

At the same time you have no problem taking the word of the corporate mainstream media that Assad's government has no legitimacy and he is hated by all Syrians. Apparently the question of bias doesn't arise there. 


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Syrian Rebels Dismiss UN Dialogue (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/opposition-syria-assad-annan-163/

"A joint UN-Arab League envoy to Syria has called on both the opposition and government forces to halt fighting and push for political dialogue, a suggestion that has incited the ire of rebels in the city of Homs..

 

Syrian Deputy Oil Minister Jumps Ship (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/minister-defection-assad-syria-111/

"Syria's deputy oil minister has announced his defection to the opposition from the Assad regime. Meanwhile Russia has slammed Libya for reports of Syrian rebels being trained in the nearby nation. An activist known as Rami, who filmed and posted the video, told news agency AFP Beirut that the opposition had helped orchestrate deputy minister Hussameddin's resignation from government..."

 

Four More Syrian Generals Defect to Rebels

http://rt.com/news/line/2012-03-09/#id27669

"Four brigadier-generals have defected from the Syrian Army and joined the rebels, fighting the regime of President Bashar al Assad, Reuters reports citing Lieutenant Khalid al Hamoud, a spokesman for the Free Syrian Army. The latest defections bring the number of high ranking officers who have deserted to the opposition to seven.

'We have six brigadier-generals who are now in Turkey and another who has stayed to lead some battalions inside Syria,' Hamoud said. 'We plan to form an advisory council to absorb these and other high-ranking defections and this group will plan operations for the FSA."


Fidel
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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

Fidel wrote:

[ Ayman al Zawahiri, likely ordered Qaeda massacres on Homs from his U.S-occupied Qaeda sanctuary in Iraq.

 

Speaking of baloney, seeing how there was artillery and tank fire involved where did they get the artillery and tanks to do that from? Not to mention how could they set up and not get attacked by the Syrian army? Tanks and artillery have a huge operational foot print... they could not possibly hide units like that from the Syrians in Syria.

USA blames USA's al-Qaeda allies for Syria attacks

Financial Times wrote:
Recent bombings and attacks against the Syrian regime in the country's main cities appear to be the work of an al-Qaeda affiliate that may have infiltrated the opposition, according to senior US intelligence officials.

The bombings in Aleppo last week and other attacks on Syrian government and intelligence targets in Damascus bear "all the earmarks of an al-Qaeda-like attack", said James Clapper, director of national intelligence.

That's James the Clapper, your Director of National Intel. If anyone knows what Uncle Sam's Al-Qa'eda allies have been up to in "the Middle East", that guy should be high on your list of wise guys.


Bec.De.Corbin
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Fidel wrote:

Financial Times wrote:
Recent bombings and attacks against the Syrian regime in the country's main cities appear to be the work of an al-Qaeda affiliate that may have infiltrated the opposition, according to senior US intelligence officials.

The bombings in Aleppo last week and other attacks on Syrian government and intelligence targets in Damascus bear "all the earmarks of an al-Qaeda-like attack", said James Clapper, director of national intelligence.

That's James the Clapper, your Director of National Intel. If anyone knows what Uncle Sam's Al-Qa'eda allies have been up to in "the Middle East", that guy should be high on your list of wise guys.

 

Whatever... you still haven't been able to explain the artillery and tanks firing into the city, or are you saying that didn't happen?


Fidel
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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

Fidel wrote:

 

Financial Times wrote:
Recent bombings and attacks against the Syrian regime in the country's main cities appear to be the work of an al-Qaeda affiliate that may have infiltrated the opposition, according to senior US intelligence officials.

 

The bombings in Aleppo last week and other attacks on Syrian government and intelligence targets in Damascus bear "all the earmarks of an al-Qaeda-like attack", said James Clapper, director of national intelligence.

That's James the Clapper, your Director of National Intel. If anyone knows what Uncle Sam's Al-Qa'eda allies have been up to in "the Middle East", that guy should be high on your list of wise guys.

 

Whatever... you still haven't been able to explain the artillery and tanks firing into the city, or are you saying that didn't happen?

Bec in your expert opinion, what sort of weapons will the Pentagon government in Arlington and Langley have supplied to Zawahiri's Qa'eda mercenaries or AbdelHakim Belhadj's "Free Syrian Army" of Qa'eda and jihadi recruits based in Turkey? 


Hoodeet
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Tanks and artillery fired into the neighbourhood of Homs that had been taken over by armed rebels who did not want to negotiate but chose to shootat the army instead.  The blood of all the civilians who were trapped in Bab al Amar is on the heads of those thugs, who are of the same ilk as the Cyrenaicans who've been torturing and massacring in Libya (and perhaps are some of the same people).

 

The armed thugs coopted the peaceful demonstrations from the get-go.  The overreaction of a trigger-happy army cannot be forgiven, but it is understandable.    The escalation by the armed opposition is showing all the hallmarks of the kind of urban terrorism that's been plaguing Iraq,  Afghanistan and years ago, Algeria, Egypt and Lebanon.  I am happy to call it terrorism because it is a tactic that targets armed enemies through car bombs and IEDs, which inflict harm on non-combatants and are designed to instill fear in the  general population (and please note that I do not call combatants terrorists if they engage in targetted assassination of armed enemies, kidnapping, or firefights). 

 

At this point it's no longer relevant, imho, whether the terrorist attacks are  in fact Al Qaeda --internationalists from other countries--  or AlCIAda --to advance justification for foreign intervention--

As for the defections of the high-ranking officers, my conspiracy radar senses that it could conceivably be a brilliant move by the regime (at least by elements of the military) to co-opt the rebellion, pulling something between a Libya and an Egypt.  The "free Syrian army"  will now have experienced military leaders who've brought their prestige to the game, and the top brass live to rule another day.    Taking bets right now (4:30pm Eastern, March 9, 2012).

 

 

 

 

 


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Syria: Straining Credulity? - By Alastair Crooke

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NC09Ak03.html

"...Not only the US army, but it seems mainstream Western media insist that the struggle in Syria must be scripted in emotional image and moralistic statements that always - as the War College article rightly asserts - trump rationalistic analysis. Those with the temerity to get in the way of 'this narrative' by arguing that external intervention would be disastrous, are roundly condemned as complicit in President Assad's crimes...

But does anyone really believe American and European objectives in Syria are ever purely humanitarian? Obama said it plainly. It was always about Iran."

Pentagon Prepares War Plans for Syria

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/syri-m09.shtml

"In testifying before a Senate committee Wednesday, the Pentagon's civilian and uniformed chiefs confirmed that they are drawing up war-plans against Syria at the request of the Obama White House. Marine Gen. James Mattis, the head of US Central Command (CENTCOM) in charge of all US forces in the Middle East, addressed the same panel and gave a candid assessment of US aims in Syria.

'If we were to provide options, whatever they are, to hasten the fall of Assad,' Mattis tesified, 'it would cause a great deal of concern and discontent in Tehran.' Declaring Iran, 'the most significant threat in the region,' Mattis added, 'it would be the biggest strategic setback for Iran in 20 years, when Assad falls.'..."


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'Arab Spring' is Arab Socialism's Fall  -  by Wayne Madsen

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2012/03/07/arab-spring-is-arab-soc...

"...the Obama team of 'democracy engineers' set out to implement policies that would eliminate the Middle East's remaining pan-Arab socialist regimes. Now history is repeating itself in Syria..."


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15,000 'CIA Mercenaries' in Syria?

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2012/03/15000-cia-mercenaries-in-syria-cia...

"Russia says there are 15,000 foreign 'terrorists' in Syria.."

 


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US Intelliigence: Assad Firmly in Charge in Syria

http://rt.com/news/assad-strong-us-intelligence-273/

"One year after the unrest in Syria started President Bashar Assad is still firmly in control of his country, US intelligence services say, despite their leaders claiming his regime is doomed. Speaking on condition of anonymity, three US intelligence officials have said Assad holds a strong position in Syria and his inner circle is also very determined to back the cause and remain 'steadfast' AP reports.

Intelligence officers noted that the disorganized Syrian opposition is providing little challenge to the regime and that the political leaders of the Syrian National Council do not work as a team and often fight among themselves.."

US Talking Military Intervention in Syria - Report

http://rt.com/news/us-military-intervention-syria-333/

"Washington has allegedly opened discussions with allies on possible military intervention in Syria, as foreign ministers from the United Nations Security Council nations meet later on Monday to discuss the Syrian conflict. According to the US Washington Post, some US unnamed officials suggest among the possibilities, are directly arming opposition forces, sending troops to guard a humitarian corridor or 'safe zone' for the rebels, or an air assault on Syrian air defenses.."


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