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final ndp leadership debate - vancouver

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Aristotleded24
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I thought this debate was supposed to be about opportunities for young people and new Canadians? I'm disappointed that the candidates are instead going on their own agendas.


flight from kamakura
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singh is a punching bag this time around.


HO! HO!  nash and topp showcasing their bonafides on mulcair's signature issue!


socialdemocrati...
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Yaffe calls Topp on the softball question. So Topp takes another stab at it, says he was honestly trying to find a difference.


Boom Boom
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Brian Topp and Peggy Nash are getting along famously. I thought this was a debate? Laughing


Boom Boom
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Mulcair just lobbed Cullen a softball on environment.  Seeesh!


Idealistic Prag...
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Boom Boom wrote:

Brian Topp and Peggy Nash are getting along famously. I thought this was a debate? Laughing

Yeah, I'm finding the strategy behind some of these exchanges absolutely fascinating. There are lots of different kinds of plays being made for the second-choice support of various candidates.


socialdemocrati...
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Yeah, and Yaffe called Mulcair on that one too. Mulcair is taking another shot at it, but it seems like he'll get "violent agreement".


flight from kamakura
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and now mulcair is trying to ride the debate out with a friendly exchange between cullen and mulcair.


TheArchitect
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So far, I'd say Topp's doing best.  Then Nash, then Mulcair.


socialdemocrati...
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Props to Nathan Cullen. He sought out some contrast: hinted that Mulcair wants carbon pricing to be put into general revenue, but Nathan wants that to be specifically for sustainability initiatives. "Not in general revenue" was the phrase I heard.


Boom Boom
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Now Topp attacks Cullens co-operation plan, supporting what Mulcair said.


Boom Boom
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Wow - Topp really scored against Cullen.

 


jjuares
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Ashton frustrates me. Her answers see so robotic. I  really wanted to  like her for the leadership.  Damn-I wish Cullen's French was better and he did not hav this wacky co-operatin plan. It was interesting that Mulcair pointed out some legal problems with Cullen's plan.


NorthReport
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Thank goodness for Nathan - great new and attractive energy and not married to some party's name. How refreshing!

 

And he has great humour too.


socialdemocrati...
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And now Ashton attacks Cullen's cooperation plan.

I don't know what I hate more, the cooperation plan, or how much it sucks up half the air in every debate.


Boom Boom
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"What is this 'Mr. Cullen'  business, Niki? We go way back".Laughing And Niki repeats "Mr. Cullen" again and again.

Nathan says he thinks he won't be getting any Christmas cards this year. Laughing


socialdemocrati...
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Ashton is giving a good point though, and something I know about the Prairies: a lot of voters swing between NDP and Conservative. (We don't just want to unify progressives. We also want to unify populists. We can't pick one or the other.)


Bärlüer
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In agreement with others who are placing Topp and Nash as doing the best in this debate. Nash in particular is doing much better than last time.


Howard
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Ashton really blew it on her questions to Cullen about his cooperation plan. Cullen came out looking and sounding grreat!


Idealistic Prag...
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You've got to admit it, though, Nathan's responses were good.


Aristotleded24
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Good on Ashton for reminding Nathan that former NDP voters who vote to Conservative need to be brought back into the fold.


Howard
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Topp, Nash, Mulcair, Cullen having a good debate IMO. The others, not as much.


Howard
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I'm debating who is having a worse debate: Singh or Dewar. Leaning heavily towards Singh.


socialdemocrati...
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If I'm an undecided at this point in the race (which I am), I'm starting to like Cullen a lot more (which I am), perhaps even in spite of his cooperation plan. His questions and answers have cut through a lot of BS. He also seems to have the most positive and unifying demeanor -- despite disagreement -- which matters to me considering some of the negativity we've seen in the campaign.


Boom Boom
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Ashton is going an awesome NDP leader in the future - I have no doubt.


NorthReport
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Oh I think Niki and Martin as well are doing just fine here today.


NorthReport
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Local voices will win it for us.


socialdemocrati...
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Side note: Peggy Nash sometimes makes bitumen sound like bitchman.

 


Howard
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I think it's been a good debate, although a lot of the candidates seem quite on edge. It's like watching a sports game as the clock runs out. Every team is anxious to score one more.


flight from kamakura
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nash is doing well, topp is doing great, cullen is doing well, i wonder how his kookiness and populism play in central canada.  he could do very well


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