and for the record, i thought this thread would be about how much space to give mulcair as he settles into his new job....
I think everything has been said that can usefully be said about the problems of saying the public has been misled without being superior about it. Useful discussion.
No one has picked up on my second point: the ruling "Do not call other babblers "numerically challenged." If I were to refer to a poster as apparently numerically challenged, is that really "personal insults, attacks and mischievous antagonism (otherwise known as "trolling")"?
And who ever said, or even it could be reasonably construed said, that they dont think people are being misled?
There is people being misled; and there is people being too stupid or their brains too solely dedicated to the protection of their personal well being.
And to me what was being said is always loud and clear both of those. The second part is extremely offense, so who gives a fuck that the first part is also there- as a mere statement or indication no less?
There is something deeply funny in an ironic way to read posts attacking people for the language they choose to use when in reality it seems what they really don't like is some challenging them.
You entirely miss the boat there. It sure as hell isnt the content of the disagreement that gets me to blow a gasket, let alone I'm being disagreed with [Oh dear, I'm getting disagreement on babble.]
And there are a number of other people it seems to evince the same dynamic.
I can talk about the 'mechanics' of how people are misled till I'm blue in the face. I've done it in quite a number of conversations here. But I'm not going to be able to do it with someone can only do it while sneering at "the great unwashed". And I guess unlike a lot of other people around here, nor can I always just let it go by.
No one has picked up on my second point: the ruling "Do not call other babblers "numerically challenged." If I were to refer to a poster as apparently numerically challenged, is that really "personal insults, attacks and mischievous antagonism
This is a good illustration of how it cannot be a clear cut, or even close, list of labels that are offensive.
In most peoples hands, it would look like a puzzling comment, possibly made in passing. But coming from someone who regulary belittles the intellectual credentials of babblers, both personal and pointed and generally, that same label is not the same thing.
I really don't want to close this thread, so for the last time, please do not single out individuals.
...but have not called out those failing to do so. That's what I am talking about, but I have made similar points a number of times before, so I'll desist.
What would you have us do? Name names and haul everyone out for a public flogging?
It's not about age or perspective or a rigid set of rules that must be dogmatically enforced. It's about how we treat each other. If an individual finds it too difficult to communicate here without sneering condescention or barbed attacks of a personal nature, we warn, we remind of policy, warn again and then, for good measure, remind and warn again. Eventually the individual will get the boot.
Babble is a place for the exchange of ideas. It is not a crucible for bitter vitriol, unresolved anger issues or contempt for the ideas of others.