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Latest polling thread - started March 21, 2012

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Arthur Cramer
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Sean, wow! This is a really new kind of political envrionment we are in. That somehow seems so hard to believe, but when you think about guys like, Manley, that would explain how he could be in a "Liberal" party. So what about Debater, if that happens, are you moving right or coming with us?


Arthur Cramer
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Sean, wow! This is a really new kind of political envrionment we are in. That somehow seems so hard to believe, but when you think about guys like, Manley, that would explain how he could be in a "Liberal" party. So what about that Debater; if that happens, are you moving right or coming with us?


Ippurigakko
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I made MS Excel pie chart just doing fun

 

The NDP enjoy stronger support among younger and woman voters, Cons and some Lib are stronger support among Man and Old age voters.


NorthReport
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Very effective visuals Ipp, and thank you for this. Smile


Ken Burch
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Arthur Cramer wrote:

Sean, wow! This is a really new kind of political envrionment we are in. That somehow seems so hard to believe, but when you think about guys like, Manley, that would explain how he could be in a "Liberal" party. So what about Debater, if that happens, are you moving right or coming with us?

Don't hold your breath.  It's doubtful we'll be hearing from Debater again until the next poll showing a sudden, inexplicable jump in Liberal support comes out...and that may not happen for awhile now.


Also...it's entirely possible that Debater is, in fact, a "bot"...posting LPC talking points at various times on a schedule determined by a  mysterious algorithm known only to mad Liberal scientists.


deb93
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Looking at the age spread, it appears to me that the NDP will come into its own as the boomers age (45-54), and the conservatives' staunch senior support of earlier generations wanes. If Trudeau rode a wave of new boomer voters, it looks like the NDP will ride the wave of senior boomer voters. Looks good to me! :)

Stockholm
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Just in the 3.5 years between now and the 2015 election, a chunk of Tory voting people in their 80s will go to that big polling station in the sky while more and more NDP voting teenagers will have turned 18.


Ippurigakko
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yeah, on Statistics Canada says 5.5 millions who are under 14 age in 2006 (they born pre-1997) turns 18 yrs old

5.5 million youngers gonna vote in 2015


Hunky_Monkey
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Policywonk wrote:

adma wrote:

Brachina wrote:
I've never seen the NDP beating both old school parties federally before and 35% is the highest I've seen the NDP yet.

Late 80s under Ed Broadbent (though not on E-day in 1988, of course)

And early 1990 under his successor.

Didn't wet get that federal bounce in late 1990 and early 1991 AFTER the Ontario win?

Policywonk
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Hunky_Monkey wrote:
Policywonk wrote:

adma wrote:

Brachina wrote:
I've never seen the NDP beating both old school parties federally before and 35% is the highest I've seen the NDP yet.

Late 80s under Ed Broadbent (though not on E-day in 1988, of course)

And early 1990 under his successor.

Didn't wet get that federal bounce in late 1990 and early 1991 AFTER the Ontario win?

I don't think so.


Arthur Cramer
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I personally am happy with this "bounce". I would have been worried if we hadn't gotten one after the convention. I mean the days to come will tell the tale, but over all I tend to see all of this as very encouraging.


adma
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Policywonk wrote:

Hunky_Monkey wrote:
And early 1990 under his successor.

Didn't wet get that federal bounce in late 1990 and early 1991 AFTER the Ontario win?

I don't think so.

I think there was some before/after symbiosis there--I seem to recall Bob Rae boasting that he was the only provincial party leader for whom campaigning with his federal counterpart wasn't a liability.  (That's back when Mulroney was at his nadir, Chretien was still a coarse "yesterday's man" and the bloom wasn't yet off Audrey's rose.)


David Young
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Ippurigakko wrote:

yeah, on Statistics Canada says 5.5 millions who are under 14 age in 2006 (they born pre-1997) turns 18 yrs old

5.5 million youngers gonna vote in 2015


Howard
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Great graphs and very exciting numbers. There is still a lot of ground the NDP has to make up in Ontario to really get the Conservatives worried. I don't envy Mulcair the task of winning over Ontario at all, I think if he succeeds though, it could be shades of 1990.

One lesson I hope the NDP will take from these numbers is there is nowhere in the country where they CANNOT win, if the party sets its heart to it. Connect with local concerns, attract political skills, invest the resources, and show we have the competence to govern (and deserve people's trust!).


Stockholm
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Yet another Forum poll post-federal budget:

CPC - 36%, NDP 34%, Libs 19%

In Quebec the NDP has soared back up to 42% and the BQ has sunk back to 22% - that means that if an election were held today the NDP would win about 60 seats in Quebec AGAIN :-)

http://www.forumresearch.com/forms/News%20Archives/News%20Releases/52797...


Arthur Cramer
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Well, that is encouraging. I hope this can hold, but I wish Forum would stop polling over and over. Be ready for the next Nanos poll that will show the Libs ahead of the NDP by 5 points, and Bob Rae's approval numbers in the high 40s, though, Wink


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